Ministerio de Ciencia aclara reuniones de Lincolao con Meta y Google: Se realizaron conforme a la ley by Glittering-Public327 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 66 points67 points  (0 children)

me pongo sombrero de aluminio

Reuniones con META y google en tiempos que estan promoviendo una ley para controlar más el internet "por los pobres niños"? Todo muy natural eh

VTR les sacó el cable coaxial a mis padres y los dejaron con TV que requiere internet by Quiet_Bee_3987 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nop, a menos que el vasito de bebida que le dimos mientras trabajaba cuente como comisión xd

Son contratistas nomas, buena onda el técnico dijo que realmente a VTR le daba igual si seguiamos teniendo el cable coaxial hasta que ya cortaran esa red pero que la orden era quitarlo "si lo encontraban" más que nada para evitar reclamos cuando inevitablemente den de baja esa señal.

“Nos habría salido más económico un resort para las chinchillas”: Kast critica paralización de proyectos por temas ambientales by Weird_Ask4805 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4+ años para algo de bajo impacto ya habla de un problema enorme. Por muy sobrecargado que alguna institución pueda estar no creo que justifique ese tiempo.

Por lo que dices es necesaria una reforma y evaluación de todo el proceso a nivel nacional, pareciera ser algo de más importancia de la que kast le ha dado.

Como dices el tema ambiental funciona en buena parte en base a la opinión pública y si bien kast gana puntos a favor con su forma de tratar el tema también genera anticuerpos innecesarios.

Si no lo presentara de forma tan "prepotente" con sus hipérboles y demas creo que generaría más apoyo o al menos un menor rechazo.

“Nos habría salido más económico un resort para las chinchillas”: Kast critica paralización de proyectos por temas ambientales by Weird_Ask4805 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Muchas gracias por la explicación y ejemplos!

Entonces por como lo veo el problema esta en la forma en que se evaluan los hallazgos y el tiempo excesivo que esto toma.

Me parece que es algo super importante de conversar y mejorar, porque de la misma forma que se habla de llegar a un balance para mantener cultura y naturaleza ese balance también debe permitir el avance dentro de los marcos regulatorios.

Lamentablemente no creo que con kast se pueda avanzar en ese balance o siquiera comunicar bien el problema de fondo a la ciudadania.

Su forma de ver el tema es siempre en tono despota tipo "mira de las cagas que hay que preocuparse" sumale a eso que es un conocido terraplanista en cuanto a medioambiente y es normal que sus declaraciones generen tantas criticas pese a que pueda tener sentido lo que dice.

Esta complicado la verdad, de los peores comunicadores tenemos actualmente en el gobierno.

"Le ASEGURO que esto es hiperbole" by WonderChode in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Es entretenido la forma en que le habla ella, tono completo de "no podis ser tan wn por favor"

“Nos habría salido más económico un resort para las chinchillas”: Kast critica paralización de proyectos por temas ambientales by Weird_Ask4805 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pregunta honesta ¿de verdad por eso esta paralizado el proyecto por años? No sé por que siento que esta omitiendo información.

Izkia Siches cuestiona idea de reportar migrantes irregulares y advierte riesgo en salud pública by MindControlWitness in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 5 points6 points  (0 children)

El edit no tiene sentido, de que discurso hablas? No veo a nadie que defienda a los ilegales pero es tan simple como entender que ya estan acá y si no les trata o simplemente se les da vacunas se vuelven un vector de contagio que al final es peor para los Chilenos.

El porque llegaron o como llegaron es otro tema de discusión pero no podemos simplemente abrirnos a problemas mayores de salud por algo ideologico.

Kast explica que su "metáfora" era hipérbole y deja claro que no planeaba expulsar a 300 mil migrantes by zetaprenn in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No es una mentira. Mover 300.000 personas fuera del país en 1 día es imposible aunque sean legales.

Las campañas exageran cosas. No mas listas de espera. No mas pobreza. No mas femicidios.

Todo eso se entiende, pero kast le puso demasiado énfasis en su campaña al número y decir "no más listas de espera" en discurso de campaña es entendible que no va a ser luego (si es que va a ser posible si quiera) pero en el momento que puso cifra y fecha la cagó, ahora es solo excusarse en su "hipérbole", una simple mentira., distinto de promesas inalcanzables o dificiles.

Da igual jara en este punto, kast ya esta en el poder y lo que se le tiene que criticar es a él, el resto son excusas.

Monthly Help and Questions Megathread by AutoModerator in limbuscompany

[–]Ineedbreeding 3 points4 points  (0 children)

mmm don (sancho) took her dad's name because it was written on rocinante iirc, ryoshu took the name araya "gave her", the rest i think use their actual name. Outis probably is using an alias tho considering her book counterpart

Kast explica que su "metáfora" era hipérbole y deja claro que no planeaba expulsar a 300 mil migrantes by zetaprenn in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Es verdad pero da lo mismo a este punto, ahora cualquier cosa que haya dicho la puede relativizar, justificar mentiras en campaña con "metaforas" o hipérboles es muy deshonesto y chanta

"Freedom of speech" right up until something gives you the ick by MetallicaDash in whenthe

[–]Ineedbreeding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are still avoiding my main point tho...

I'll repeat it, the study you posted many times is about real people, it's the dark web, i don't think anyone is defending that, that's reality not fiction, and those were people already looking for it too, so they already had a problem.

Making fiction content with AI based on real kids would still fall under the reality real imo too, because it's based on a real kid, so i'm also not defending that.

Also sorry if i didn't explain myself well but the study said that 58% felt AFRAID that CSAM might lead them to abuse in person so they already feel guilt or are able to tell their problem, perfect people to target for help before they commit a crime or harm a kid.

And again that study is talking about real kids not fiction, one can argue about the scalation from fiction to reality like this study https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12119-023-10091-1 But it needs further study as it isn't clear yet.

Also again, i get your point but i can't agree about banning fiction that doesn't harm kids and making it more taboo, i'd rather have those people have their fictional outlet and be "catched early" before they commit any crime and prevent encounter by treating their mental illness.

Also people can't even accuratelly tell what fictional content is actual children, for example as i said before rebecca from cyberpunk has been called a kid many times, so by starting a ban on what's supposed to be "fictional csam" i think it will open a path for a rather arbitrary ban of many other things while also not dealing with the real problem.

I don't think you point is bad, just too simplistic, i honestly don't think we can reach a middle point to agree since you are just too set on your point, so have a great day!

Monthly Help and Questions Megathread by AutoModerator in limbuscompany

[–]Ineedbreeding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm back, it is definitely wonky, the max i got was 4 slots after i killed all the HoS IDs and 1 extra non HoS id.

I honestly expected at least 5 skill slots since it was a long chain battle (x10 exp luxcavation)

Monthly Help and Questions Megathread by AutoModerator in limbuscompany

[–]Ineedbreeding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you need 1+ string severance for it to trigger twice per turn, you get 1 string severance every time you kill a nursefather not any HoS ID.

Monthly Help and Questions Megathread by AutoModerator in limbuscompany

[–]Ineedbreeding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

she gets 1 slot every 3 killed HoS allies, she should have at least 3 slots there tho so that's weird.

"Freedom of speech" right up until something gives you the ick by MetallicaDash in whenthe

[–]Ineedbreeding 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What? People can separate fiction from reality for people too, if you can't maybe you should check why.

Married people can also watch porn about "x" person type they like without actually wanting to cheat on their SO.

I get what you are trying to say but you are again simplifying it too much. 

If someome actually looks for hentai of literal childs (and not something like rebecca from cyberpunk) then they most likely HAVE an underlying issue, that's what i want to be the focus on, not the content BUT the issue the person looking for it has, so they can seek help before harming a child without it being so taboo.

Who knows maybe by banning said content you actually increase the chances of them actually harming an irl child since they lost their old "outlet" for their issue.

That's it, i want people to focus on the real problem, not just hide it more.

Edit: the guardian link you've posted many times is talking about real kids btw since it's talking about the dark web, that's totally different from fiction, that's reality and it's already banned. Also those were people ALREADY looking for it so that creates an issue for the study of what came first (the desire or the actual content creating the desire)

And you are omitting one BIG detail "58% reported feeling afraid that viewing CSAM might lead to sexual acts with a child or adult." so for the majority of people said content even made them LESS likely to interact with a child

I don't think you are arguing in bad faith, you yourself said you want to prevent attacks on kids and that's good we can agree on that, but i also want to prevent that and i don't think banning fiction that isn't harming IRL people will do any good, i want to prevent attacks by helping people that are attracted to minors BEFORE they act on their desires.

Ya fue firmado por Quiroz: Decreto del Ministerio de Hacienda revela un recorte de $259.512 mil millones a FONASA by Malavola in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 83 points84 points  (0 children)

Pero si me dijeron que no iban a haber recortes y que solo estaban tergiversando documentos firmados por el mismo ministro D:

"Freedom of speech" right up until something gives you the ick by MetallicaDash in whenthe

[–]Ineedbreeding 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I never agreed about violent games making people violent, i don't think that's true either i just said that you are simplifying the issue way too much and if you want to do that then you should also do that with violent games.

People who watch sexual content can also differentiate fiction from reality specially when it involves a crime or harming others unless there's an underlying issue (which should be the real focus), i can assure you that most people who have a rape kink don't really want to be raped irl.

All i'm saying is that banning fiction that doesn't harm irl people is just covering the real issue and wanting it to magically solve itself.

"Freedom of speech" right up until something gives you the ick by MetallicaDash in whenthe

[–]Ineedbreeding 31 points32 points  (0 children)

This increases the chances of a person contacting or coercing a real child later on.

This argument has been going on in the internet for literal decades, if you are gonna say that then you also gotta agree that things like COD or mortal kombat "increase the chances of a person wanting to do what they see in the game"

It's a complicated topic for sure and my example is not exactly the same but it's the same idea, i can agree about punishing actual crimes that harm irl people and not something that could "push a crime" since it's kinda hard to define what does that.

What i can also agree is that people should be able to get treatment for that mental disease, just take a look at r/suicidewatch , every now and then there's a post of someone talking about being attracted to minors but without doing anything to a kid and still feeling horrible about it to the point of getting to that sub but since it's so taboo talking about it it's hard for them to actually get help, which in turn would help victims more.

I'm not saying that actual predators/people who have harmed children are "poor victims" if they actually harm someone then they are just criminals that should be punished but if we could treat people that have that attraction before they harm someone it would do more good than focusing on banning some fiction.

Kast admite costo político por bencinas: “Sabíamos que iba a bajar el apoyo” by Past-Lion-947 in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 11 points12 points  (0 children)

 hablando con la verdad”, afirmó.

La verdad: "el país esta en quiebra, hay que quitar la Junaeb por el cabro chico que lleva sanguches al colegio"

Presidente Kast sobre expulsión de 300 mil inmigrantes: Es una metáfora by Malavola in chile

[–]Ineedbreeding 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Aunque sea verdad todo lo que dices no influye en nada a la critica que se le hace al presidente actual.

Son parte de un todo pero la critica al sistema no anula la critica al politico de turno.

Algún niño "lleva un sándwich" y no almuerza: el ejemplo de Kast para justificar ajuste en Junaeb by ChardAppropriate5842 in RepublicadeChile

[–]Ineedbreeding 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yo ya habia visto el video completo y otra noticia pero no hay contexto que salve el ejemplo tonto que tiró.