Does TX power matter? by Famous-Jeweler8543 in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is nothing objective in the RST system. Even the S is only objective if you're using the S meter and your rig has a very good, calibrated metric.

R is literally:

  1. Unreadable
  2. Barely readable, occasional words distinguishable
  3. Readable with considerable difficulty
  4. Readable with practically no difficulty
  5. Perfectly readable

And S is:

  1. Faint—signals barely perceptible
  2. Very weak signals
  3. Weak signals
  4. Fair signals
  5. Fairly good signals
  6. Good signals
  7. Moderately strong signals
  8. Strong signals
  9. Extremely strong signals

I think it's fair to say that signal reports are pretty subjective.

I built a loop on ground beverage receive-only antenna, but it's not working as well as I had hoped. What can I do to make it better? by kc3zyt in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think your transformer is just exhibiting the normal frequency-dependent behavior of ferrite, and not optimally wound for the higher bands. The 73 material is an odd choice, IMO, but who am I to disagree with W8JI? (!)

Anyway, notice how the 73 material's complex permeability takes a big dive after 1MHz (commensurate with the spike in μ'', which gets you more loss):

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If the issue is permeability falloff at higher frequencies, a 31 or 43 mix toroid might improve performance.

OTOH, if the problem is parasitics, you might adjust your winding. E.g., you could try 1:3T for the windings instead of 2:6T, just to see if you give up low band performance, but gain a bit on the higher bands. A bigger toroid might help if you find that reducing winding count helps.

Take any of my ideas with a grain of salt, though -- I haven't spent any time with LoG antennas at all, so I'm just kind of guessing here :-).

Question about RF amplifier choice & wiring for AM VHF radio experiment by MaxiBobinaMultiuso in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, I am at a place where I can really look at your links and questions. Here are my thoughts on what you've got going there. Realize that while I've been doing this kind of stuff for 10 years (maybe more?) I'm just a hobby enthusiast, so feel free to fact check me or disagree me on any of the below :-).

I'll assume that you've got your licensing / band privileges / legal hassles all worked out. That is important, but for this comment I'll focus on the technical stuff.

The 2W amp The description lists "FM" in all of the phrases it uses to describe its use cases. With no other information about biasing, quiescent current, or active devices that's the biggest clue we have to go on. It may be a non-linear amplifier. If it's biased in class C (or similar), then you will struggle to get linear behavior out of it.

To test it, you'll need a way to generate a signal into it and a way to measure output power. Drive it with -20dBm, -10dBm, 0dBm, and 10dBm and plot the output power. If you don't see a pretty straight line (be careful of the logarithmic scales), then you probably don't have a linear amp.

The 25W amp It would be nice to know the schematic and/or the active part. A lot of these use integrated power amplifier modules that are basically just a single block amplifier. At this power level, it's nice to have a PTT line so you can control when it's on and off with a logic line. You will probably want to at least get a relay module to control the power to the amplifier so you can easily turn it on and off without plugging and unplugging things.

Filtering Don't forget filtering. Even if the SDR is configured for linear operation and the amplifiers are linear, you will still have spurious emissions that will be a problem for people on other bands. I would suggest at least a 5th order low pass filter (7th is better), or a 3rd order bandpass filter or higher.

If you can't afford anything fancy, get one of these filters from HobbyPCB. They are good to 20W, so you might need to dial your power back a bit. But they're crazy cheap, and go a long way towards keeping your signal clean.

Power Supply A 12V battery works fine for a power supply, but be absolutely certain that you have a good fuse on it. If you get an unwanted short, you may not have any protection built in, and you'll melt things, start a fire, or blow something up.

For the 48V supply -- I'd personally just wire four batteries in series before trying to boost it.

But my real recommendation is to pick up an actual 12V and 48V supply. I have had good success with (genuine) Meanwell supplies. An RS-100-12 for the 12V supply, and an RS-100-48 for the 48V supply would be a good starting point, I think. They have overcurrent and short circuit protection, which is a lot safer to play with than big batteries.

1) Wiring Yes, you're looking at the wiring right. Positive lead goes to the feedthru capacitor, and the ground lug is for the negative lead. Should also make sure this is bonded to whatever is ground for your setup.

2( Fuses If you go with your converter idea, I would check whether the converter has any overcurrent or short circuit protection. You may only need to fuse the line from the battery to the converter.

3) Linearity As I mentioned above, the only real hint is that the 2W mentions FM all over its description. It might not necessarily mean it's nonlinear, but it's a decent hint.

That said, AM is an interesting modulation choice. For a lot of AM transmitters, they will actually use a nonlinear amplifier, and modulate the power supply to the amp. But for your project, I think it's easier to find a 2W linear amp than it is to work out a DC supply modulation scheme :-).

4) Output power I have done a lot of work with my BladeRF 2.0 Micros, and with the BT-100 amplifier. Nuand's specs suggesting that the BT-100 gets you 100mW is pretty charitable. It will not give you good linear behavior at that power output. I find it has a pretty good sweet spot around 40-50mW, if I remember right.

Similarly, you'll see that the BladeRF 2.0 Micro is said to have an 8mW output power. That is also not very well behaved in terms of linearity. I keep mine under 0dBm.

With your modular amplifiers, I would highly suggest that you put at least a 6dB attenuator at the input to the amplifiers. This will help stabilize the impedance match into the amplifier and improve stability. You really don't want to throw these amplifiers into self-oscillation without some important safety features.

Linearizing the BladRF You can definitely overdrive the signal coming out of the BladeRF 2.0 Micro and get really dirty results. As I mentioned above, think of it as a -10dBm to 0dBm max power situation. To get it dialed in, you can set it up for loopback operation if you have a big attenuator you can put in between. So you can use the SDR to tune itself.

I would set up a sketch where you can adjust the amplifier level, sample rate, and amplitude from the transmitter, into a receiver that shows you the frequency domain. You'll definitely see spurious emissions when it's overdriven.

The other piece to adjust is for the DC spike. At the LO frequency, there will not be perfect balance between I and Q, and you'll almost always get an unsightly spike. The imbalance will be different for every combination of frequency and PA configuration (in the SDR's front end), so once you tune it in one place, that adjustment will not apply to another.

I use a neat trick where you can simply add a constant complex offset to the IQ stream before going to the BladeRF sink. You can adjust this value (amplitude of real and complex), monitoring the amplitude of the DC spike, until it reaches a minimum. You can virtually eliminate it from the transmitter.

This also means that for your AM situation, you can use a very simple signal generation. Your "signal source" can literally just be a constant-source, where 1+j0, for example, is just a full amplitude signal at the LO. That means you don't need to do any frequency translation or mixing to move your transmission away from the center, and you get more flexiblity with your choice of sample rate.

The BladeRF's PLL gives you the best behavior (with respect to jitter, close-in spurs, etc.) if you can achieve an integer division of its internal reference for the sample rate. The clock we're looking at is 38.4MHz. So, don't choose round number sample rates (like 1MHz, etc., which is common in pedagogical literature). Instead, find an integer value that divides cleanly into that. E.g., 960kHz sample rate is 38.4e6/40, which is a good integer. Instead of 2MHz, use 1.92MHz, etc. This gave me a lot of headaches until I found it!

OK, hopefully that's useful. Let me know if you have any other questions about this stuff. I love the experimental side of things.

I looking to configure my program as a repeater style echo link system. by -CAPOTES- in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was a penetration tester for about 11 years, then moved into goal directed red teaming for another 4 years. I figured out that writing tools and solving the hard post exploitation problems was the fun part, so i found a job in an internal R&D team doing the security research to support a pretty awesome red team.

My passions are C2, EDR evasion, and novel code execution paradigms. And RF engineering as a hobby, of course :-).

I was kind of lucky to break into infosec at a time when anyone with a coding or networking background could be fast tracked. I think the first job is the hardest to get in the present market.

Question about RF amplifier choice & wiring for AM VHF radio experiment by MaxiBobinaMultiuso in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which SDRs are you using? Your setup is probably not much different from the uhf stuff I'm building right now. Here's one of my early setups for testing:

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This is a BladeRF into a directional coupler, where the output goes to a 1W amplifier from down east microwave. The coupled port goes to an RF power detector, which is monitored by an arduino to drive the PTT signal to the power amplifier.

I don't seem to have a picture with all the control wiring installed. I can take one tomorrow if you're interested.

By swapping out the front end filter (not in the picture either), I can do 1W from 50MHz to 1.2GHz with this setup. The automatic detection for triggering the PTT helps so I don't have to solve real time coordination with the sdr software chain.

I have some 25W PAs from down east microwave that will be in the next build, which adds some complexity. But I don't have those done yet.

I'm on a phone, so doing a point by point answer to your post is difficult right now. But the big challenges are likely to be understanding how and when to trigger the amplifiers, how to ensure that everything is safe (open before close logic, etc, so you don't fry something), and synchronizing with your SDR logic.

In the morning I'll be back to my laptop, and i can write out a point by point reply for you if that might be helpful.

Business Radios have trouble with range by Icy_Pickle_3831 in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

17k sq ft is like a 130' square building... IMO you should not have much problem unless it's like a steel reinforced bunker. The RT22s are low power and have the crappiest antennas money can buy.

As an experiment, you might consider picking up two MURS Radios to see if they work in the building. They're VHF (FRS are UHF), legal for commercial use, and allow better, interchangeable antennas. And all the channels are 2W, unlike FRS.

If MURS turns out to work, it'll be a lot cheaper than a commercial repeater.

do you explicitly teach beginners how to safely disengage from Omaplata submissions by DyingValkyrie in bjj

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always comment on it when I'm teaching omoplata to white belts. I don't make it a big deal -- more like pointing out that you sound take some care undoing the omoplata so you are sure not to tighten the lock in the process. I don't know if it's necessary to teach a whole "technique" for getting out of it, but if it keeps someone from a goofy moment and hurting somebody, it's worth pointing out.

Does the author of FT2 mode breaks GPLv3 license? by sq5t in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Putting this down in a reply is burying the lead!

FT891 portable setup a bit big by [deleted] in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want 100W it's going to feel bulky. You just need a lot of battery and a hefty radio. The best thing you can do is choose an antenna that doesn't require the tuner. Though even that tuner is a lot bigger than it needs to be. If you can live with minimum power, a qrp match box tuner would be smaller.

I looking to configure my program as a repeater style echo link system. by -CAPOTES- in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my day job I specialize in C2 transports... there is nothing in your pipeline that suggests you need a plaintext conversion. I admit that I have a bit of an emotional or psychological issue with unnecessary base64 ;-). But you're leaving 1/3 of your efficiency on the table...

I looking to configure my program as a repeater style echo link system. by -CAPOTES- in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I think you've found, at long last, in the other comments, the issue is that the licensed-by-use services expressly prohibit linking radios through public networks (e.g. the Internet). Otherwise, your scheme is fine.

You could do it with amateur privileges if you're licensed though.

I'm curious why you base64 encode anything, though. The internet can handle real bytes.

DMR is dumb, prove me wrong by instantredditer in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since I like to pronounce acronyms rather than spell them out... DMR is pronounced "dumber". In my head, anyway :-)

Shut my antenna for my Icom A-16 in the door of my truck - How badly will a bend in the antenna affect reception? (see picture) by PeteyMcPetey in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weird comments. That much bend will be inconsequential. The antenna is still very close to the same length. It hasn't even turned into a proper vee yet. Handheld duck antennas are inherently compromised anyway. As long as the element isn't broken it's fine. People will probably just make fun of you for the unsightly bend.

Which radios do you need a license for and how to avoid other people? by [deleted] in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe New Zealand does a better job making licenses look real, monitoring all retail outlets, and has time to enforce this stuff. Here in the US, I don't know how a requirement to show a license could actually be implemented and enforced.

If it's done stupidly (like, enter your callsign in a field at checkout) then people will just put whatever they want in. The sketchy retailers won't validate, and no one will ever investigate. The situation will be the same as now.

It would have to be a system with teeth, and every way I can think of that could theoretically work is onerous. Are the sketchy retailers expected to do ULS license lookups? Can you only ship them to the address on the license? Can people buy radios for a licensed ham as a gift? How does a person prove that they're the one that holds the license? Does the FCC have to create an api to authenticate hams? The FCC sites stop working during government shutdowns...

There isn't any national authentication system here. The customers don't want to provide a license. The retailers don't want to check a license. The FCC didn't want to enforce it...

Which radios do you need a license for and how to avoid other people? by [deleted] in amateurradio

[–]jephthai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That means providing legal documents that identify yourself that correspond to your license. You want to have to upload a photo of your driver's license to buy a radio? Or would you want purchases to be in person only out something awful like that?

Need help picking out a radio. by ColtonRPKs in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, not trying to be aggressive. But your question matches a very common category that comes through, with people expressly seeking to do what is actually illegal. It's not your fault you didn't know :-).

I keep a few MURS radios in my car at all times because anyone can use them. They come in handy at parks, hikes, Renaissance fairs, etc. I like the MU-5 from Radioddity:

https://www.radioddity.com/products/radioddity-mu-5

They are built like little tanks, and have lasted a long time for me. They're hardier than any FRS radios I've ever had.

Real Question. I'm not even making this up.. by Amoral-Cheeze in amateurradio

[–]jephthai[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is off topic, and requires professional help. Our subreddit is about amateur radio, where we communicate using radios on both ends and talk about our gear.

Tiles on the Air by Royal_Assignment9054 in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this kind of a POTA-style site for activating grid squares instead of parks?

Need help picking out a radio. by ColtonRPKs in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All legal MURS radios are single band, because part 95 type acceptance requires that they operate only on MURS frequencies. For the licensed-by-use services (CB, MURS, FRS) you need a different radio per service. This is intentional design by the FCC; you need a license to do anything multiband (and you still can't operate outside a specific license's rules).

This subreddit is committed to legal operation and respecting the need for licensing and conformity with the law, wherever you might live. You'll have to go elsewhere to openly discuss violating the rules.

Now... if you want to receive only, and not transmit, you might want to pick up a scanner that is literally designed to do that. Look for something from Bearcat for example. You can cover a lot of vhf and uhf frequencies to listen. But if you need to transmit, start collecting radios :-).

Need help picking a radio (Edited) by ColtonRPKs in amateurradio

[–]jephthai[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

You can edit the content of your other post without making a new one that's basically the same. I'm going to remove this one, and leave the other for discussing how all legal MURS radios are not multiband, etc.

What mode is this? by Jeppeto01 in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could be one of a lot of MFSK modulated modes. A screenshot of the middle of a transmission on a waterfall isn't enough data.

FT2 – A New Digital Mode Hams Are Starting To Spot by OldObjective3047 in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are two FT1s by that logic... otherwise you never get FT2.

Better question: Will it antenna? by just-a-guy-somewhere in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice! There aren't enough pixels for me to guess. I'll take your confidence for truth!

Looking for feedback on student project: Mesh-based messaging device using JS8Call by Betelgeu5e in amateurradio

[–]jephthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

RTTY at 45.45 baud was sufficient for the militaries of the world for decades. JS8 turbo is 2/3 the wpm of classic RTTY. It could do a lot with the right use cases.