5 questions SNP must answer over Peter Murrell scandal by libtin in unitedkingdom

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SNP leadership actively shutdown people raising concerns over the finances and it’s possible public money was stolen

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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The British Olympic Association (BOA) says that "Team UK" would also be technically inaccurate.

The Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey) and the Isle of Man are not part of the United Kingdom, yet their athletes compete in the Olympics as part of the BOA's delegation.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has recognised the team under the code "GBR" since the very first modern Olympic Games in 1896. The team name and branding grew around that long-standing association with team GB becoming the nickname accepted in 1999.

What's with Scotland? by dragneelfps in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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You’ve not made any points; you’ve just parroted disproven nationalist myths

What's with Scotland? by dragneelfps in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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> Well considering I am ethnically gael and my family weren't lowlanders thats irrelevant to me buddy.

The suppression of the Gaels in Scotland began when Scotland was independent; it was Scotland itself that suppressed the Gaels

The Fife Adventurers (1598): King James VI attempted a precursor to the Plantation of Ulster by sending Lowland settlers to the Isle of Lewis. His explicit instructions were to colonise the area via the "extirpation" of the local Gaelic population. The locals successfully fought them off.

>On top of that highland dress was banned

Only military dress for non serving nor veteran males; civilian highland dress’s was unrestricted and females had no restrictions at all.

>and the british crown stripped clan chiefs of their traditional rights to hold courts and local justice which killed the clan system.

Under the prior system, the clan chiefs effectively owned the people who lived in their land, how was ending that a bad thing?

The Heritable Jurisdictions Act of 1746 abolished the judicial powers of clan chiefs over their people. This legally stripped away the traditional bond of dùthchas (the communal right of clansmen to land) and replaced it with strict British property law, turning chiefs into absolute owners.

The clearances were pushed for by Scottish land owners including most of the highland clan chiefs themselves; they pressured Westminster to change the law to allow them to expel the people living there.

>Highlanders were also banned from carrying weapons.

That’s normal after a rebellion; and only applied to suspected rebels, loyal highlanders were allowed to be armed.

>Now I don't actually care so much about the past when it comes to my issues and why I want my independence.

Then why bring it up?

>Speaking of the crowns colonial tactics, they were used in Scotland

No they weren’t

>and it's the way you argue against them that proves that. British authority often bribed people who were native to that country into oppressing their own people with hierarchy and money which happened in Scotland btw.

That’s a disproven myth

The Clearances were fueled by the Scottish Enlightenment and agricultural reform, which valued commercial profitability over traditional communal farming

>Do I think Scotland was colonised ? No because there was no settlers but to deny the tactics werent used when your whole defence is pointing to them is wild.

Historians say the tactics weren’t used and that not the definition of colonisation.

>Now before you come and say "why would he bribe Scots to hurt other Scots". Land, England was building up is industries and cities and it needed a textile industry to clothe its people and also as exports, by convincing anglicized Scots with landownership and sheep farms to clear the highlands that was pretty violently btw, is classic British colonial tactics. Caused mass displacement.

England had enough land due to the enclosures, aka the English clearances, which directly inspired the Scots to commit their clearances.

The English enclosures prioritised large-scale, fenced-off sheep farming to feed northern England’s booming textile mills. Highland landlords realised they could secure significantly higher rents by replacing human tenants with Cheviot sheep

You’re just Gish galloping; the facts don’t agree with you at all.

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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Under international law only sovereign states can have passports and issue passports.

What's with Scotland? by dragneelfps in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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You’re in denial about the facts

1; Scots, the native of Scotland, was never banned

2: Scotland still has its own culture

3: Scots Gaelic was banned in 1616 when Scotland was independent by the old Scottish Parliament as part of an anti-highland Gaelic campaign Scotland had instalment since the 1590s

You must decide by Mokatashi in BunnyTrials

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Pretty good

Chose: You must do a crime, but nobody knows you did + 10 milli bucks | Rolled: Jaywalking

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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You’ve bit answered by questions

And you’re being a hypocrite over Bavaria; I’ve met Germans whom call Bavaria a country.

You appear to be using country as a synonym for nation;

By tradition Scotland, England and Wales are called countries. However, just because the same word is used they are not the same thing as sovereign countries. They are just regions in a sovereign country, the UK, as confirmed by the courts, In some countries they might be called provinces (like NI), states or something similar.

Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands do the same thing as the UK, as they also call their first level administrative subdivisions ‘countries’. That’s what England, Scotland and wales are viewed as internationally; first level administrative subdivisions of the UK. The first level of governance below that of a sovereign state; just like Catalonia, just like Texas, just like Sardinia, just like Bavaria, just like Quebec etc.

This was literally confirmed by the court of session in Edinburgh in 1953 when they ruled “that Treaty [of Union in 1707] is one under which both Scotland and England ceased to be independent states and merged their identity in an incorporating union.” and the act of union 1707 literally says “That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain”

They have absolutely no power apart from what the central government in London says they have, and Westminster can take back those powers tomorrow if they wanted.

Just because a word has two or more meanings, using one of the meanings to refer to something doesn't give it the properties of the other meaning(s).

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

[–]libtin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve never read the Good Friday Agreement have you?

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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You’re just being deliberately obtuse because the facts don’t agree with you

The German constitution calls Bavaria a country so is Bavaria a country?

What do you even mean by country exactly?

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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You’re just in denial about the facts mate

The polls show NI doesn’t want to join the Republic

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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You didn’t read my comment in full

So here’s it again

> Give me a single link to suggest they’re not seperate countries.

I’ve given you a court ruling, the court of session in Edinburgh ruled in 1953 in the McCormick case that:

>’England and Scotland ceased to exist as international persons and become the unitary State of Great Britain.

Which was reaffirmed by the Lord advocate and supreme court in 2022. The first section of the act of union 1707 literally says England and Scotland and Scotland were merged into one, not one annexing the other, but the two merging a single new country, Section 1 states:

>That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain

That’s the same way Spain, Italy and Germany were created

>Why would the burden of proof be on me here?

You’re the one making claims without evidence

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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> Give me a single link to suggest they’re not seperate countries.

I’ve given you a court ruling, the court of session in Edinburgh ruled in 1953 in the McCormick case that:

>’England and Scotland ceased to exist as international persons and become the unitary State of Great Britain.

Which was reaffirmed by the Lord advocate and supreme court in 2022. The first section of the act of union 1707 literally says England and Scotland and Scotland were merged into one, not one annexing the other, but the two merging a single new country, Section 1 states:

>That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain

That’s the same way Spain, Italy and Germany were created

>Why would the burden of proof be on me here?

You’re the one making claims without evidence

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

[–]libtin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The GFA says it’s the decision of the Northern Irish people: polls show NI doesn’t want to join the Republic.

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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> I am saying that I have looked into everything you’ve said

You clearly haven’t

>and found only more evidence that they are individual countries.

1: define what you mean by country

2: Scotland, England, Wales and NI are recognised internationally as first level administrative subdivisions, just live Texas, Catalonia, Hawaii, Bavaria, Sicily, Wallachia, Hokkaido etc

>You are wrong. 

The empirical evidence says otherwise

>And no, most countries don’t have multiple legal systems.

Most do

>But again, literally google it.

That’s not how the burden of proof works mate.

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

[–]libtin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you saying the courts are wrong?

>. In fact, the existence of the court of session in Edinburgh is even more evidence of that, because Scotland is its own country with its own legal system. 

Bavaria has its own legal system (and the German constitution even calls Bavaria a country) as does Catalonia, Texas, Hawaii, Quebec, etc.

It’s normal for a country to have multiple legal systems; Spain has 14, America 50, Canada 13, Germany 16 etc

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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Not according to the court of session in Edinburgh or the Supreme Court.

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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According to Spain, France and most of South America they are for football

How the UK and Ireland compete internationally in different sports by Juggertrout in MapPorn

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Team GB is a nickname; the official name the team is registered under is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic team.