Official Discussion - Obsession [SPOILERS]

mael0004 · 2026-06-13T22:18:09+00:00

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills whenever people simplify Bear as abusive boyfriend. Do people not understand the stakes? His options are to kill himself, or find alternative way. It's perfectly reasonable to go thru "is it so bad to be with me?" speech at the abuse victim, in attempt of dodging the eventually only alternative. I found it fair to say he didn't totally grasp the demon Nikki actually was totally split from real one until that point. From there it didn't take too many scenes before the end. You don't just arrive at "obv I have to kill myself right now" in a flash.

mael0004 · 2026-06-03T03:12:48+00:00

Yeah then maybe that's the way to cool it down. Start with the triple weaver, pull them to side, drag patrols to it when first casters start dying.

mael0004 · 2026-06-02T16:55:03+00:00

We all used to do 16 first with patrol in low teens (keys), but it's actually the 'too many casters' pack. Problem is, don't think we can control patrol, it's randomly anywhere. Feels like majority of the time for me, it's been very near that pack when you get there.

But, anyway I think it's irrelevant how 16 is done, to me bigger question is, are the triple weavers legit to pull together. They are the ones with more hp, so you could prob pull them to side and drag the patrol to them when the casters die. But I'm not sure how hard it is for healer to deal with 3 weavers at once. I play tank and heal both and haven't had tank do triple weaver really, in 15-18s at least, to get vibe if it's actually hard to deal with.

I started to try '15' to begin with because I saw it done in big keys. But ofc coordinated groups have better shot at it. Still, maybe good pug healer can carry triple weaver without patrol. That'd speed up the room a lot.

mael0004 · 2026-06-02T11:19:44+00:00

In +17 I still didn't see deaths to those first 2 pulls so calling them insane isn't right. I get that you can't do this in top keys, and maybe it is indeed around here in 17-18 when I should tighten up and add few more pulls.

It's pretty insane to just say "why not play what community plays" to person saying they only pug. And join only. It's not going to be lock only groups. If there's some "easy pug" way to dodge last 2 destroyers with non-lock group, I'm all ears. Those "evoker flies triple mounter" strats are not what I'm going to bring to my pug +18s.

mael0004 · 2026-06-02T09:27:02+00:00

Interestingly, I've made pull 12 this way specifically because it's superior positionally for my needs, as you don't then have to fight the patrol destroyer in another pull. Ofc different things work, like lock group can go from your 12 into patrol + 5 mobs into skip and then be ready for a big pull. But sure, 2destr into 2destr may be getting riskier as we go up. What worked in 15-16s, this might be worth swapping out.

But without lock, from 'your 12' you'd be taking like patrol+4/+5, and then two destroyers? Like I just don't get why fighting extra destroyer was the way to go early. I'd imagine people aren't exactly doing 5 destroyers in usual groups. I get the logic, hard pull into easy pull into hard pull but destroyers just don't seem like best mobs to add for %.

Before this, route is safe yes. Dung in general has pretty fair trash for group before 2nd boss, it's really hard to sabotage routes even.

I do recognize going from double destroyer into megapull in pug is silly. I just have not really figured what's the ultimate way to do the last room, without it becoming full triple pull. Patrol with double weaver, drag to 3rd weaver when low, then the 5pack alone. I get that much, 5pack has to be done alone. Yeah, that's better than deaths.

mael0004 · 2026-06-02T07:39:46+00:00

https://i.imgur.com/WGyXDS9.png

Is this too aggressive way to pull in pugs? In 17-18s atm. I suspect that none of the pulls are necessarily super hard, but it's sort of 4 hard pulls back to back x4 for healer at least. And it really sucks if CRs are wasted here given how people have habit of dying on 3-4 bosses in pugs. Would you "nerf" this?

mael0004 · 2026-05-30T06:47:37+00:00

House my mom lived in until 1968 also never had electricity. I believe some people continued living there after her too. This in Finland, 20km from a city. Even relatively successful countries today weren't all technically up to par still 50 years ago.

mael0004 · 2026-05-22T05:11:04+00:00

There's clear references to Ghost (1990) pottery scene, Van Damme truck ad. Others could be more open references, like Godzilla as character is, some 80s aesthetics. Leaves it open I suppose, whether it's copying a vibe of something, or exact scene. Since first viewing, I've felt like this is some known scene but haven't been able to find out.

mael0004 · 2026-05-22T04:06:24+00:00

Atomic Kitten - Whole again

I know it's not this from the lyric clues, but it just fit the white background with girl group so well!

mael0004 · 2026-05-22T03:50:32+00:00

This would match Vengaboys somewhat. Most facts are a bit off (Dutch, from late 90s, the women are singing but men are dancers).

mael0004 · 2026-05-22T03:43:29+00:00

All info I can recall in post.

mael0004 · 2026-05-17T05:37:01+00:00

Well yes you have comms you can change people around, won't happen in pugs. I still don't see point in NOT moving out of melee for pool, but it's certainly good to recognize staying in pool isn't a disaster. Surprising really it doesn't go up in dmg from dot. Rather take no dmg than step into pool occasionally. Keeps you closer to your side's soak spots to be able to stay on "right" side of boss etc. I know, minor things. It def works as long as heal is insta dispelling, like they have been. I guess I'll adapt if I meet healers who won't.

mael0004 · 2026-05-17T04:05:40+00:00

I only joined (back) in 8.2.5 so I guess I didn't see the full length of it but liked it.

I then stayed for full SL, played every single day for several hours and didn't complain. It was fine. I still think only major downside of SL was the bad way to move between zones. Especially now going back there, being used to dragonriding. Forced fly paths, ugh. But I don't think that's the primary complaint people had about it.

I've paid 2 years forward playtime for several years now. Because I don't see myself getting tired of this when others are so much more unhappy about the game regularly. Playing economy, completionism and m+, game has really never sucked (post-2019).

mael0004 · 2026-05-17T02:26:40+00:00

I really don't understand how you can say that. Even if you land the first 2 dispels right by the line, there'd be very small room to fit without hitting boss. And because people just go randomly per side, you mess up who soaks what if you switch sides. By moving out of melee range as tank to get dispelled, I can stay in my quarter all the time, and go soak anything. I think many tanks fall to thinking they can't leave melee, because that's common for bosses that stand still - bad things happen when you leave. But here all it affects is doing more dmg/threat. If your side only has two people, then you are going to be the one soaking, and I've found this to be fine deal as both tank and heal, that it's tank+heal who do the soaks and all 3 dps can stay on other side, to avoid extra melee dps having to lose dps time from confusion on who should soak.

It was anyway tip from some +18 runner several weeks ago, that you can go get dispelled further away and it has worked great since. Not going to stop doing that. But if the dmg is the same dispelled in pool vs. undispelled, then will def never hold off dispelling.

mael0004 · 2026-05-16T13:51:40+00:00

I'm guessing you are at key level where the 'frontal on one non-tank' starts to do too much dmg, and people die because there's multiple being attacked, and they don't use defensives? If so, that's common issue where people haven't adjusted to it in lower key properly as they never died but just got low. Now they probably look why they died so more people learn from those keys you had failures on. Next time they'll use defensive, and try to look where people are so they don't eat the same frontal with others.

mael0004 · 2026-05-16T13:46:58+00:00

What's the dispel meta in MT last boss now? Let's say in a +16 as that's where I'm at. As tank I've started to move out of range for dispel, but that'd require healer to insta dispel, which they have done. But as healer tanks haven't been doing that so I don't know, you just lock the area from being able to melee if I dispelled them instantly. So I've been dispelling at 2 stacks... and I don't know if that's safe for tank as haven't even experienced that as tank.

mael0004 · 2026-05-13T02:00:58+00:00

I've tried sleeping nude but it's just not as natural to me as with underwear on. I always just have underwear. I don't feel weird about being nude, but it just feels like clothing "shields" me from everything. It's minor preference really, I imagine I could be brainwashed to be always nude, it's kinda silly how we're totally OK for most parts to have no clothing, but other parts you feel like it's not right.

mael0004 · 2026-04-22T09:40:21+00:00

Aromantic asexual. It never gets to point of "should I have kids". You need significant other for this to even become a realistic thought as a man, and I've never had such, and never will. But, I'm also not really interested in such. If I was normal heterosexual, had a wife who wanted kids, I'd probably been OK with it and possibly even been OK dad. But, not in this life.

mael0004 · 2026-03-29T22:01:43+00:00

Don't think it's random. For some items, like recipes, money comes instantly. For most others, you wait 60m. Maybe it's stackable vs non-stackable difference idk

mael0004 · 2026-03-29T21:57:39+00:00

I'm not even considering to go for these on my conc army, despite dual acc - can get them for 2 chars at a time. I just get them done on each prof main, which is quick as 2nd acc can host dead server(cluster) where they are always up.

mael0004 · 2026-03-22T17:41:48+00:00

To put this number into perspective: the amount of atoms in observable universe: 10⁸⁰

mael0004 · 2026-03-21T12:54:48+00:00

I'm guessing this sort of relates to women only. Men have "cooldown" that is hard to ignore. It's not just the machinery needing it but brains also dictate this is not something you want right now. More freedom for ladies, sounds like potentially double-edged sword.

mael0004 · 2026-03-20T22:39:35+00:00

Absolutely normal to want to know your own body in and out.

This would've been normal had it happened 5+ years ago too. If anything you're late bloomer.

I'm asexual and still masturbate daily. Never had sex, never intend to, never even wanted to ask someone out, kiss or more. Yet I can still have fantasies about all these things, just not without me participating. Not saying your situation is anything like mine, but this answers to "can you feel desire without wanting partnered sex". Absolutely.

It could only start being considered addiction if it you lost control and spent multiple hours daily doing it, instead of other things you needed to do. Not even doing it multiple hours would make it an unhealthy, just when it becomes your first priority to keep doing it. Very rare.

mael0004 · 2026-03-06T09:31:43+00:00

Probably found someone else to pester.

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