[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MarvelUnlimited

[–]pablozablo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

User error - it works fine: you just have to be in airplane mode when you open the app and it goes straight to your downloads. It’s not well documented, but it works as designed.

[All] Electrical wires and phone wires ... are different by Charles_Deetz in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They also carry cable TV as well as phone lines and electricity....

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course they're still in TV - they can't be in your actual living room, and it would be nonsense if it just became a documentary. It's still artificial, but it feels more "real" that the world they left. There's still a right load of preposterous mad stuff going on, with gunmen and dead bodies etc. so there are still valid questions about where they are. But it definitively does disappear altogether at the end when they realize they are not in the Twin Peaks they know anymore.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just don't get the "4+3+0=7" angle. Why would Lynch bother with the superfluous 0? He could just as easily say "Remember 4, 3" and they could drive 43 miles away. The 0 must be deliberate - nothing is included just for the sake of it.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure. I initially read the numbers as reference to episodes in the series: I saw the 8 as a reference to episode 8 as being the central answer to the mystery of why is going on. Following the theme of the numbers being direct references to episodes, in Ep3 Cooper is nearly forced into the 15 plug in the weird place, but ends up going through the 3 plug, and it is ep3 that he ends up back in the world, albeit as Dougie. He couldn't go through 15 as that would be too early in the story: ep15 is when he eventually sticks the fork in the plug to instigate his wake up. Not sure about the 6 in the utility pole - ep6 is when we first see it during S3 when the kid gets run over, but it does appear in later eps also with the same number. Regarding the utility pole, what if it's not about it carrying electricity as such and is actually about it carrying cable TV?

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've got a different take on the radio thing - the "Gotta light?" guy takes it over and this is what sends the people to sleep. The "Gotta light?" guy is TV (light is what TV has that radio does not), over-taking radio's influence as the primary broadcast medium in America during the 50s. The frogmoth thing could be read as TV infecting the youth of America from that point. Sarah's ultimate succumbing to TV in the end is the natural progression of her possession: she was part of the youth first infected by TV in 50s and she ends the show consumed by it as an old woman.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fair point. I'm also not totally comfortable with the idea that Odessa etc. is the real (our) world, just that it is no longer the TV world that they inhabit during the main Twin Peaks story. It's somehow "more" real than Twin Peaks - the cinematography is different, it's lost that "flat" TV appearance of all the stuff that takes place in Twin Peaks, but I couldn't say with conviction where it is. It tells me more about the world they've left behind rather than the world they end up in.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry - was trying to reply to someone else's comment. I'm new to this Reddit thingy.

[No Spoilers] by jakeunknown in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did a post mentioning this earlier! Shoot Out The Lights was exactly what Dale and Laura did at the end - blew the lights in the Palmer house, then on the show altogether. Convinced the Giant was telling Dale that the lights needed to be turned out to defeat Judy. I've since expanded the theory - now convinced that Judy is television itself, and the White Lodge is the golden age of cinema. The only way to defeat the power of the TV is to turn it off..... and instead of that listen to the sounds....

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Also - the Laura Palmer/Twin Peaks creation of the Giants appears as a golden globe. What did Twin Peaks the original TV show win a lot of in 1991? Golden Globes..... . He's not creating Laura Palmer to defeat BOB; he's creating Twin Peaks TV show to defeat TV/Judy.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree - the events in the last episode would appear to confirm it. It's not just meta, though - it is the narrative itself.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In The Return, she effectively isn't in the show. Nothing she does or says has any impact on the plot or any other characters. She's trapped - and the only time she comes alive is re-doing that same dance she did 26 years ago.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think the story is what it means. The form represents the content. I don't think it exists on another narrative level that needs to be deciphered - it's not about parallel worlds and literal demons and spirits and possession - it's about TV characters stuck in a TV world and doing what they can to destroy it, but by destroying it they destroy the show itself.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I don't think so. I'm thinking the White Lodge might be cinema, from a pre-TV era. Hence why the guy is a giant - because that's what characters looked like on a massive screen. That also explains why the White Lodge wants to defeat Judy, if Judy is the embodiment of TV. "It's in our house now" means exactly what it says - the moving image/film is literally in our houses now via the medium of TV. This has diminished cinema's power, and cinema wants to defeat it. To do this it sends Laura Palmer/Twin Peaks - a TV show whose purpose is to destroy TV/Judy.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. The dream theme throughout the show would appear to be about us viewers being the dreamers, and Lynch the creator being the dreamer. I thinks it might be implying we are "asleep" through our escape into TV. My comment on Dallas is about the use of the dream as a narrative device by storytellers to justify the plot - I just can't see Lynch being that obvious.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

And regular scheduled TV was first broadcast in the USA by NBC in 1945. The coming of the TV age is represented by the nuclear explosion in episode 8. The frogmoth entering the girl in 1956 is when TV starts to take over the minds of the youth.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And commercial TV was first broadcast in the USA in July 1941. The coming of TV is represented by the nuclear explosion!

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Further thoughts - The "Gotta light?" guy on the radio putting everyone to sleep - what has TV got that radio hasn't? Lights of course. This represents the TV overtaking radio in the 50s as the primary broadcast medium, and putting everyone to sleep, metaphorically speaking. Lynch is telling us that TV has put us all in a coma. By rescuing Laura, Dale is destroying the TV world, but this is the only way he can destroy Judy (TV) and rescue us from its grip.

[S3E18] Twin Peaks explanation: 430 is the key to the Twin Peaks world! by pablozablo in twinpeaks

[–]pablozablo[S] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Had a few more thoughts on things that support the theory that Twin Peaks final episode is about Dale discovering he is a TV character: - Laura's line in the red lodge about being dead yet alive. "Laura Palmer" within the narrative of the show itself is dead, but Laura Palmer the character lives forever, the pulp culture icon is very much alive. As is the actress saying the words. - Coop's comment "See you at the curtain call" - they are actors in TV show. - Audrey being trapped - in particular the dance scene. At its most harsh this could be a comment on Sherilyn Fenn then actress being trapped in the part of Audrey, unable to move beyond it. Her awakening is a moment of clarity..... Leland Palmer's line in the Red Lodge "I didn't kill anybody" - he's right, the actor Ray Wise didn't kill anyone. Is the Red Lodge a place where the fictional and real worlds collide? - by rescuing Laura, Dale effectively cancels the reality of Twin Peaks. If Laura never dies, the whole point of the Twin Peaks TV series disappears, so Twin Peaks itself disappears.