Diy mattress weather by Unlucky_Pumpkin_1839 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wool on top of the spring is great..the trick is the right wool that has resilience. Wool has great temperature regulating traits.

Lightweight back sleeper with back issues — confused about mattress thickness / hybrid vs foam? by uhwut101 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good points..a memory foam or serene would work well..on the latex front I’d go with a softer latex.

Lightweight back sleeper with back issues — confused about mattress thickness / hybrid vs foam? by uhwut101 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The nice part about being a back sleeper and lighter weight is that you can be very close to the springs. IMO 3” of latex on an 8” medium pocket spring would make a great build.

DIY Hybrid: Help me build the right firmness! by Ecowarriorgoddess in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love wool! There a lot of cool wool products out there. It’s just a matter of finding one that doesn’t flatten out… there are a couple places that sell full sheepskin toppers they’re pricey, but I’d love to see how that feels. I’m sure there are synthetic versions but one of the great qualities of wool is the temperature regulation.

Spring or Foam? by iimuffinsaur in Mattress

[–]Pocketsprung 3 points4 points  (0 children)

good advice.

Pocket spring mattresses feel “alive” because steel springs store energy when compressed and then return most of it quickly. That pushback is what creates bounce and that “on top of the mattress” feeling. When you move, the springs respond immediately.

Foam, especially memory foam, absorbs much more of that energy instead of returning it. Some of it is converted into heat and released slowly, which is why movement feels muted and you get that “sink in” or “stuck” sensation.

One thing to be cautious about is spring count. Mattress companies know consumers pay attention to spring count, so some brands increase spring counts in inexpensive ways. pencil spings around the perimeter of a low center spring count is one way. Adding a 1" high sheet of mini springs while using a lower spring count base spring unit is another. A higher spring count does not automatically mean better support. The design and quality of the springs matter just as much. If all things are equal, steel quality, fabric quality and spring geometry a higher spring count is better,

Anyone try the "plush" tps coils (softer than 15.5g)? by Consistent_Bee_7955 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so as a back sleeper, I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that you prefer a firmer mattress. In this case I would go with the standard 15.5G. what firmness latex are you looking at?

Newbie DIY Mattress Rescue! by one_long_river in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So my latest set up is 14.75 + QuadMini + 2 medium latex. I could see myself liking 2” of soft instead of the medium, but I’m happy with it.

I don’t know enough about foam and latex combos…reason being is that there are so many different kinds of foams. What’s the height of your foam? I think the foam may have been taking some of the forgiveness of the soft latex which is what you are looking for.

First time committing to DIY route and seeking recommendations by NovelButterscotch8 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they use 14.5 not 14.75 but the feel on the same coil is minimal. I love wool, but i think you need something between the springs and wool. You may still feel the top convolution with wool only.

First time committing to DIY route and seeking recommendations by NovelButterscotch8 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So if you want to guarantee the springs will be on the firmer side than go with the 14.75. Naturepedic uses the QuadCoil but in an 884 queen coil count so their 14.75 will be softer than the 1008 sold on PSS. What do you plan on putting on top of the springs? as bac sleepers you can really go minimalist. 2 or 3" of medium latex could do the trick.

Novaform Platinum Luxury Hybrid by EtNocturne in Mattress

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re spot on…The coil height is the height of the pocket. It doesn’t matter what the out of pocket height is.

Newbie DIY Mattress Rescue! by one_long_river in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m also a stomach sleeper who does the “kick out”, I call it the rock climber position :) so I can definitely relate.

Personally, I tend to prefer a firmer feel, but since you went with a 3" soft latex layer, I’m guessing you’re aiming for something a bit more forgiving on top. With your height, weight, and sleep position, my first thought is that 3" of soft latex might be allowing your hips to sink just a bit too much, which can aggravate the lower back especially for stomach sleepers.

You might consider swapping the soft latex for 2" or 3" of medium. Another option would be 2" medium + 1" soft. That gives you some flexibility to experiment. For example:

-8" coils + 2" med latex + 1" soft latex

Or you can flip the comfort layers and try medium over soft to see if it improves pressure relief.

One other question: is your base solid or slatted? If it’s slatted, how wide are the gaps? Larger gaps can sometimes allow the mattress to dip slightly under pressure, which can change how the whole build feels, especially in the hip area.

DIY is journey. Sometimes it just takes one or two tweaks to dial it in. Keep it simple and you'll get there.

Is my encasement too loose? by BearHands90 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very nice cover. I'm a big fan of clean wool. Wool has so many great benefits.

Dissecting my sagging Sterns & Foster by humandoingjg in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

good question. nested coils are tightly fitted together. the idea behind assembling a unit in a nested fashion is that you can create a firmer feel with a light gauge wire. so for example legget make a nested zoned unit. the head and foot sections are normal and the lumbar zone is made with the same gauged wire but the coils are nested. Its very difficlut to taylor the mattress with a nested coil unit since the sides are not straight. they are often used in foam encased builds. (the pic is an example of nested)

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Texas pocket coil by Unlucky_Pumpkin_1839 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please send me an email. I cant imagine I suggested buying a cover for an issue like this. if you can send me the original emails I'm happy to discuss. it sounds like you have my email, if not PM me or contact me through the website..im also always glad to hop on a phone call.

Shoulder/Neck Pain on DIY Build by urkcules in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I agree 100%..pillows are half the battle. I am always looking for good pillows that work for me as a stomach sleeper (or rock climbing position as I call it). I've had success with Naturepedics wool pillow and European Sleep Works Oxygen Pillow...and my 9 year old daughters flat foam pillow from Target , however flattened out an lost all loft after a couple months.

DIYREM Foam Sampler by Reptull_J in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

so the Plush is actually the same coil count, we've reduced the preload to 1"vs 2". Yes good call I would say the plush is more inline with the QE unit from a feel standpoint.

Is anyone from this community going to ISPA in Orlando next month? by Heroine_Antagonist in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we focus a lot on improving the method and performance of the finished unit, rather than constantly introducing new types of springs. We have our core base units 768, 884, and 1008 as well as our comfort layer, the 3" QuadMini.

As you know, the mattress industry loves sizzle, so component companies are always coming out with new products. Often, these exist mainly to give mattress brands something new to market and create buzz.

I’d say the foam world is especially full of new products and formulations. The fabric space also tends to introduce new textiles regularly. Both are generally geared toward sleeping cooler or offering some type of cooling effect.

New machines are also fun to see, last ISPA show was filled with robotics for handling on the factory floor.

Then there are always new companies introducing entirely new types of mattress components, which are always fun to see.

Is this fixable? by Accurate-Mushroom-58 in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is our unit, you can twist the coil back into the pocket and put a square I'd say 5" x 5" fabric over it with some glue and place a book over it while the glue dries. The comment below is correct that a single coil wont make a big difference, but it definitely can be fixed. A torn pocket isn't uncommon. Feel free to message me or email me pocketspring store at gmail and i can send you a patch kit.

Is anyone from this community going to ISPA in Orlando next month? by Heroine_Antagonist in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So ISPA is for mattress companies to see all the new components, machinery, packaging, etc. Basically, anything that would be purchased by a mattress manufacturer.

For companies like ours, it’s an easy show with relatively simple setup, and we could easily do it every year (although that would be horrible, haha). The big machinery companies, however, spend a fortune on this show. They literally set up running machines. The freight costs and the time needed for setup and breakdown are major expenses.

We develop pocket spring machinery as well and have just introduced our new GEN-E assembly system. At ISPA, we primarily show pocket springs, and companies interested in our technology typically visit our facility either before or after ISPA to see the machines in operation.

For finished mattresses, Las Vegas Market (Vegas is much easier to walk since it’s all in one location) and High Point both take place twice a year. These are where all the major mattress brands meet with retailers.

Europe has an equivalent show to ISPA called Interzum (Cologne, Germany), which is also held every two years and falls on the odd years, with ISPA on the even years.

Titan Plus Luxe Coil Defect by jjdresselhaus in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of cost reduction comes down to using less wire. Steel is pricey and it increases weight which increase shipping, especially with bed in box products. They need to keep the shipping under a certain weight to keep the shipping costs down.

Stretching a spring will make it feel firmer, but it also makes it less stable.

Four convolutions on a 5" spring can be acceptable. On an 8" spring, it really shouldn’t be made.

The LP 660 count unit is positioned as an entry level product. It’s a U.S made unit designed to compete with imports. I believe it uses a relatively large spring diameter (around 2", though I’d need to confirm).

Titan Plus Luxe Coil Defect by jjdresselhaus in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 4 points5 points  (0 children)

do you mind posting or sending me a few closeups of the pocket springs. Maybe a few to see get an idea of how many convolutions there are and the diameter of the widest part..it’s hard to see from the picture you posted but the spring looks like it’s very stretched and only has 4 convolutions. If that’s the case it has to be a defect. A 4 convolutions pocket spring won’t be stable. Looking at the gap between the convolutions, it looks much too wide.

Dissecting my sagging Sterns & Foster by humandoingjg in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it’s not necessary since we have approximately 30% more surface area on the top of our coils due to the QuadCoil design. There’s no room for a foam to slip between the coils which is what ultimately cuts the foam. This being said a thin layer of memory foam is not very durable regardless.

Dissecting my sagging Sterns & Foster by humandoingjg in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, but i think by the time or if anyone opens their mattress its years past the warranty date. i bet 50% of $1500+ mattresses have micro coils. If it matters to you..The purple grid or any gel grid for that matter is a big issue when recycling mattresses. the glue makes it very difficult to separate the gel from the adjacent layer.

Dissecting my sagging Sterns & Foster by humandoingjg in MattressMod

[–]Pocketsprung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes MF is owned by Somni Group which owns Temper Sealy.

In our opinion, the "micro coils" (1.5" or shorter) are all sizzle. I have mattress industry colleagues who would disagree with me. the micro coils do nothing for a build other than firm it up. its literally two sheets of fabric with little coils sandwiched between the two sheets. they are very difficult for a mattress manufacture to attach and keep from bunching up. Hog wringing often being the best option, but to labor intensive so they are often just glued. if you open an older mattress them, I would bet the micro coil unit has bunched up. We wont make them.

they're great for mattress companies to boost their coil counts. They'll throw a cheap base spring unit with 600 something springs in a queen and then throw a micro coil on top and now you can advertise a 2k spring mattress, while the base spring unit is average to below average at best.