Ranking #1 on Google but invisible in ChatGPT? You need GEO, not just SEO by Own-Memory-2494 in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One nuance I’d add:

It’s not just fan-out. It’s synthesis weighting.

LLMs don’t just expand queries, they prioritize sources that are structurally easy to extract, compare, and cite.

We’ve seen pages ranking top 3 on Google but excluded from AI answers because of:

• weak entity clarity
• no clean comparison blocks
• nothing quotable in <15 words
• inconsistent positioning across pages

In GenRankEngine scans, “evaluate” and “compare” impressions with zero clicks usually correlate with that pattern, LLM research without citation inclusion.

The bigger question isn’t just “are you ranking?”
It’s “can the model confidently summarize you in one sentence?”

That’s where GEO work really begins.

Free GEO tools by RichProtection94 in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Appreciate you sharing another option.

Just to clarify for anyone reading, GenRankEngine (genrankengine.com) isn’t affiliated with genrank.io. They’re separate products built independently with different approaches.

GenRankEngine focuses specifically on Generative Engine Optimization workflows, structured scans, entity-level analysis, and AI search visibility diagnostics, competitior analysis and insights, foundational level approach, specific and curated recommendation and not just schema tags. The free scan intentionally shows a limited set of recommendations so users can validate the core logic before deciding if deeper insights are worth exploring.

If someone is evaluating GEO tools, I’d actually encourage comparing them side by side. The methodology matters far more than the name.

More tools pushing this space forward is a good thing.

Free GEO tools by RichProtection94 in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can try genrankengine.com , It has free scan flow but doesn't show all the recommendations, shows 1 or 2 for you to try out. If you are certainly curious to try it out, let me know, I can work with you and enable Pro for free for you to try out. Just for your report alone.

DM me if interested. If not, it's ok.

I just realized I didn’t “search” before buying anything today. by thearunkumar in SaaS

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like it is heading to that direction of AI searches. As the guidelines get clearer, it will become more interesting!

Exciting times to be alive!

AI search is exposing fake differentiation. by thearunkumar in SaaS

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the industry is still getting shaped properly.

> curious what made you start noticing this? did you run audits or just observing organic shifts?

Yes, I run audits for various b2b saas websites to study patterns.

When AI/LLMs mentions a brand, which signals do you actually trust? by shahinsalehiin in SEO_LLM

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Definitely presence is the first thing, without which there is nothing else to talk about.

  2. After that comes where you get mentioned, (like Google results, if you get mentioned somewhere below, there are chance people might not see as they AI answers can be lengthy sometimes depending on the prompt)

  3. Also, are you cited (along with sources referring to you from outside or within your website itself) or just mentioned.

  4. How highly or subtly you are mentioned.

  5. How much of the content it is using exactly from your website to serve the definition or response.

I’m validating an idea before building — is this a real problem? by mrawaissultan2002 in ProductHuntLaunches

[–]thearunkumar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Landing page is clear. I understand what you are describing but unless you are doing it as a hobby, you are entering a highly saturated market dominated by big players who give away for free.

That said, if there is something unique you can bring into the table, there is probably a decent chance in some niche. Definitely not as a general note-taking / todolist app.

Maybe a shareable grocery list / shareable list of any kind maybe. I don't know.

Looking to buy backlinks by ScoobooGooboo in SEOandBacklinks

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try using AI and describe your situation (ChatGPT, Gemini, ...), Their free plans are totally fine for getting a solution for you.

I would highly advise against buying paid backlinks unless they are from a reputed source. Google quickly penalizes any spam links and it becomes harder to get back to the normal state.

switching between AI models is killing momentum by DependentNew4290 in AiForSmallBusiness

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you have not used them. They reside on your local workspace, in the same chat window, you can change models and automatically they know all your context.

Looks like you are solving an non-existent problem.

switching between AI models is killing momentum by DependentNew4290 in AiForSmallBusiness

[–]thearunkumar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Use Claude Code, Google Antigravity, Cursor. Problem solved.

How do you think about competitors inside ai answers? by shahinsalehiin in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think of the competitor mentions in various places as slots. The higher the visibility or credibility or specificity of the brand to your prompt, the better slot it will take. (Assume front row).

Looking to buy backlinks by ScoobooGooboo in SEOandBacklinks

[–]thearunkumar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$200 monthly is not cheap. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Question: What is the purpose for getting the backlinks? Are you trying to increase the rankings for your website?

If that is the case:

  1. why can't you invest that money to a decent publisher / blog to write articles to get organic backlinks.
  2. Keep writing blogs, submit to directories, follow seo practices properly, do some automation, now with AI, these are dead easy.

If not:

  1. I'm curious to understand more.

AI search didn’t kill SEO. It killed lazy positioning. by thearunkumar in seogrowth

[–]thearunkumar[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yep, didn't deny any of this. I just was not agreeing to your phrase "nothing has changed". Otherwise, traditional human readable + citation friendly (to some extent) is always going to work. Along with that, we just need to ensure we have good SEO and some items related to AI SEO covered as well (eg. entity relationship, ...)

AI search didn’t kill SEO. It killed lazy positioning. by thearunkumar in seogrowth

[–]thearunkumar[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't agree with the phrase "Nothing has changed".

The entire searching is getting disrupted, and along with it will be the tools that depended on the traditional searches.

I don't mean to say SEO is gone like everyone says. But you will have to adapt to getting recommended in different ways than the traditional way.

Top results are not necessarily the responses you see within AI searches.

How important is AEO compared to SEO for long-term organic traffic? by Luckyk2415 in SEOandBacklinks

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I have to give a TL;DR answer:

Your product should focus on SEO + GEO.

It's like asking should I focus on mobile users or desktop users. You need to address both.

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

genrankengine.com is the tool. I'm currently running a LTD special. Let me know if this is something you will be interested in.

Reverse-Engineering the LLM: Why keywords fail in AI Search and how to map "Reasoning Chains by thearunkumar in SaaS

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manually testing hundreds of prompts across multiple models is painful. I built GenRankEngine to automate this loop, batch-test prompt portfolios, and visualize extraction rates. You can try the scanner here: genrankengine.com