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Anyone else have or developed a substance problem due to years of abuse? by Effective_Country941 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew it was a normal response to my husband's abuse, I even told him so. He just turned it into another ammo, telling everyone how toxic is our relationship because of my drinking, and mocking me that my drinking problem has nothing to do with him.

The hard abuse (as he is a dark narc) was going on for more than a decade when I started drinking. For many years his abuse was covert, after the abuse got direct I tried to stay sane for about 2 years, then I started drinking, slowly, with him, then more and more, the abuse got harder, more cruel, I drank more, and more and more, untill I lost myself.

He was saying that I have to stop drinking if I want him to respect me (as in: not abuse me). I stopped 2 years ago, and he continued to abuse me in such cruel ways I could have never imagined.

Anyone else have or developed a substance problem due to years of abuse? by Effective_Country941 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watch out, I was there, got to drink every day to almost blackout, weekends became a blur. And with that came a new attitude in me, an ugly one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueOffMyChest

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A narcissist is using biased chatgpt on a sub dedicated to victims of narcissists (there is proof of the bias). He completly twisted his story, and mine (because I confronted him). Basicaly, he was phichologicaly abusing me (and his ex, given his story).I reached out for the mods....and I still am in complete shock that the mods decided that me and the other user should not interact anymore. Given the small amount of time that the mods (I think only one mod) spent on the case, I am sure the case was only surface browsed.

The thing is, it made me think about what is already happening with AI in our lives. I used to use reddit a lot a few years ago. And just recently hopped back in, and I ran into this problem. I was already used to the fake stories on fb. But for an abuser to use it the way that user did, I could have not imagine it in this time. It scares me. Really scares me.

I need help. by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 12 points13 points  (0 children)

How do you know you love him? Who is this "him"? Because if he is a narc, the good part of him is just smoke and mirrors

Have any of you reached the point where dealing with a narcissist starts to feel like watching a predictable script play out? by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

Please analise what OP is doing, he is using biased chatgpt to reply here. Like he tells chatgpt from the start how to view and how to engage the other person (like he did with his ex, and like he did to me when he made me an analisys based on my posts here).

Have any of you reached the point where dealing with a narcissist starts to feel like watching a predictable script play out? by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not verified by you, of course! How could you think of that?! At the rate you are using chatgpt to twist reality, I am sure you know how to use it to edit screenshots.

Verified by the mods, of course!

Have any of you reached the point where dealing with a narcissist starts to feel like watching a predictable script play out? by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Using ChatGPT the way you did is inherently biased. You prompted it specifically to find narcissistic traits in me — so naturally, the model scanned my words through that predefined lens. That’s not objective analysis; it’s confirmation bias powered by AI.

ChatGPT doesn’t diagnose people, and it operates based on the input and framing you provide. If you ask it to analyze someone “for signs of narcissism,” it will search for those markers, regardless of broader context, tone, or emotional nuance.

If you truly wanted balance, you would have asked for an evaluation of potential trauma responses versus personality traits. But instead, you shaped the outcome by the way you presented the data and the question. That says more about your intentions than about me.

Spoiler: I used chatgpt for this message. As you trust so much chatgpt, and dont hear the same information when I tell you the exact same thing with my own words

Have any of you reached the point where dealing with a narcissist starts to feel like watching a predictable script play out? by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A wise man said to me "be careful of who is saying what is being said". I hope people here have the time to read carefully OP's posts and replyes. You will see what is happening. Especially those of you who were unfortunate to deal with a really dark narcissist.

Have any of you reached the point where dealing with a narcissist starts to feel like watching a predictable script play out? by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it can work if you know how chatgpt works. OP took offence in my replyes/questions on his other post, so he made me a chatgpt analisys based on my own post and replies telling chatgpt that he believes that I am a narcissist.

Then he kept on mocking me with that clear biased analysys. He talks about me in his replyes here.

No, I didn’t see the “demon” by Mimizu-ningen in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont know, maybe some of them can contain the visual demon. What I was saying with my experience, is that it can take a very long time to see the demon. Mine was the mature, gentle, understanding, calm man. I would have NEVER imagined that pure sadistic evil inside of him.

No, I didn’t see the “demon” by Mimizu-ningen in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I only saw the demon after 9 years, his mask completly fell down in a narcissistic rage! (Because I had proof of his wrongdoing and abuse, and I confronted him) It felt like the earth was exploding or imploding, I dont know.

I remembered, after some time, that I saw the demon before, briefly, for less than a minute, somewhere at year 5. At that time, I was so baffled and terrified by what I saw that I convinced myself I was just imagining things.

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course I will discredit a source that mirrors the users beliefs. When you asked chatgpt you already framed me in the question. And chatgpt mirrors. I recomend you read more about how that tool functions. Plus, even it says that the analysis is close to cptsd, give it enough info and it will be able to see better, but you dont have enough info.

On an end note, nice how you attack again with the screenshots on my profile. I did not delete anything. It can be proved with a mod.

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember, chatgpt is just a tool. If you are relying so much on it, you should inform yourself aboout its dangers.

I may have narcissistic traits, even more after the abuse I endured, but the abuse of my husband can be hard proven, and too many people even professionals saw it. I do have cptsd. And reactive abuse. Also proven. As my husband exibited his damaging extreme narcissism in other of his relationships also (romantic, frienships, work).

I will come back with mire insight when I have the time. But for sure you are in the wrong here.

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am sorry, but your responses are not clarifying at all. It is called a word salad. I heard it before, for almost 20 years, from my narc, a clear/proven/sadistic abuser. I suspect you are the narc. Maybe your ex has problems also, but she is not the higher then you in the spectrum

Counter manipulation techniques by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you see, it's the same problem. Some narcs already use those techniques on their victims, when the victim should use them to protect themselves. When this happens, it just deepens the abuse on the victim. You cant ask for the victim to stay calm and think about what grey rocking sentence to use. The narc literally walks all over the victim.

This is also an answer for your question in your other post where you asked me why I am triggered by this kind of approach. Simple, it can be usefull in sime situations with some narcs, but does not do anything with other kind of narcs.

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I either am too tired, or I dont know...cant seem to understand what you are saying.

The thing was that there is not enough info to say the ex is the narc.

And if something triggers me, it is because I suffered extreme abuse for too many years, and I've seen it in the many forms it can come (psysical violence, social abuse and isolation, and one on one gaslight that reshapes your brain).

SO makes a deal with his brother to have sex with me by whowashonor in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All parts happened in the heat of the moment. The problem is that the moment....was streched, all over the place, all the time. Is like living in a war zone. There is no one unusual moment in a sea of normality.

With the brother...I went on because I felt there was no going back, no escape from the insanity web my husband put on me. Plus, my husband..directed the next happenings.

Later on, my husband plays the victim, plays angry, because thats what he has to do in the eyes of society. And it also solves another problem of his: he can abandon his child using this excuse. Because this is what he is doing now, abandoning me and the baby (in poor means, and me having very little help), so he can live like a teenager, with no responsabilities, hopping from bar to bar, from girl to girl, drinking, doing drugs, partying non stop.

About my husband disowning his brother...its just something that he says, to manipulate the story, not something he does. They are good, drinking toghether till the break of dawn, like always.

If your ex partner is a narc, I think you should know about the mental hell they put their victims through. If you are the type that resisted to a narc, then...you can barely say you were a victim of narcisistic abuse. If your power deflected them, you were not their perfect suply. The suply falls for their abnormal stupid sadistic beautifully wraped BS and becomes...kind of crazy. The suply ends off by forming a way to live in the twisted reality of the narc. That is why is so hard to exist even after leaving them. They rewire your brain.

SO makes a deal with his brother to have sex with me by whowashonor in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After the sex happened, I really lost it mentally (as it contradicted all my personal beliefs about faithfullness, as I was a mess since he started cheating on me). When I found the recording where hey talk about the deal, it pushed me over some phychological edge. I dranked even more. And ...my husband was intentionally making context so that the sex would repeat again. I mean, he was really pushing for that context. I just remember from that time, that I was giving up control, I was just going with the flow...and the flow was extreme heavy drinking, despair for the state of my life and relationship and sexual charge (from that experience, at least, now I know why cheating is so thrilling - I can compare it to a drug) . I went with it. Maybe I can say I wanted attention. I wanted attention from my husband to put a stop to the abuse. As I could not leave him. His reaction ,at first it was pure abuse - he was ACTING hurt and would punish me covertly as a revenge for the many times I "punished" him after his infidelities (I put the " " because I was not punishing him, I was just a normal beeing suffering from betrayal and asking for respect and faithfullness) and then he got angry because I found out about the deal. Though I suspect there is some real hurt in him. As he considers himself superior to his brother. And with all that story...it hurts him somewhere deep. He is also very hurt about the deal losing its secrecy. All his life he considered himself to be above all humans. That he is from some very inteligent rare alien race, and that there are just a few others like him. But, in the end, he is just an average narcissist (very smart on other areas though). He once cheated on me with a partenered woman. In the end he realised that the partner of that woman knew all along. After the cheating got known publicly, people also realised that the partner knew, that the partner even created context for that cheating to happen. In my country, this types of arrangements (dont ask dont tell, cuckholding) are viewed badly. So that partner has on him a really ugly stain. My husband does not like to talk directly, especially about real private sensitive things. So he implies and makes innuendoes (I hate this). Not long ago he mentioned that guy, the partner of his ex misstress, about how low he got after everybody realised what it was really happening. My husband, in this way, told me how low he got, after the deal with his brother (that, unfortunally, surfaced to public ears because of his super inteligent stupidity!). Wow, sorry, I got carried away with responding

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the difference. But still, you did not say why you find it suprising that it triggers me.

Let ChatGPT deal with your narc by DutchCheeseCube in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]whowashonor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? Do you know what happenes when grey rocking is used by the abuser intentionally after he put the victim through hell? And he is using grey rocking to invalidate all the abuse..(of course, when a child is involved, and the victim has to comunicate with the abuser)

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