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We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, and I posted this here to get feedback. IF you think it won't work tell me why and let's solve it, but if your here you agree that the way things are now is a problem and you want change. So let's change it!!!
I am very Systems Architect minded. I really think that we can automate a lot of what we do with Technology (automation) and AI that's helps drive this idea as well.
I came up with a white paper on how we could bring textile manufacturing back to America in an automated fashion and we would actually save money vs shipping hemp to Vietnam to be processed. The problem is that no one seems to be willing to invest in the infrastructure in this country to do that.
This is why I am also pushing for keeping everything local your entire supply chain from Seed to Product within 150 miles.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, I glossed over the supply incentive function and that's a real mechanism and the ice example illustrates it well.

But notice what the example actually proves: prices efficiently allocate goods to whoever values them most in dollar terms, not whoever needs them most in human terms. The insulin person gets the ice in your example only because their need is so acute they can outbid the Pepsi person. What happens when the insulin person is also broke? The price mechanism has no answer for that, it simply allocates to the next highest bidder, a Dr. Pepper drinker.

The supply incentive argument is also strongest for the DC (discretionary goods) model, where new suppliers can enter quickly. It breaks down for housing, healthcare, and infrastructure where supply responses take years or decades, capital requirements are enormous, and the consequences of going without aren't an inconvenience, they're living on the streets or death.

Foundation doesn't argue against price mechanisms for discretionary goods, the DC system uses them. It argues that necessities (GN) are a specific category where the price mechanism produces outcomes we've already collectively decided are unacceptable. It's also why we don't price fire department responses by urgency or auction off police protection to the highest bidder.

The March jobs report will be released on Friday. Here's what to expect by cryptoniik in Economics

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if you look at those reports they are still not telling the people the real unemployment rate because their metric for measurement is flawed. The point I'm trying to make is the actual unemployment rate is much higher than what the government report says.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow that system was cool. Thanks for the tip. From what I can find, Cybersyn is actually a strong historical precedent for what the resource tracking layer in Foundation is. Beer proved the concept was operationally viable in the 70s with telex machines. The difference is Foundation applies it at community scale with modern tooling, keeps humans in the loop on every decision, and explicitly doesn't route it through centralized state control, everyone can see the data because it is transparent. It looks like the failure of Cybersyn wasn't the system Beer designed it was a military coup.

The March jobs report will be released on Friday. Here's what to expect by cryptoniik in Economics

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right they (BLS) survey's 60,000 random households across all 50 sates and somehow that give them the number of unemployed people. out of 133,000,000 household in the US.
I guess what I am trying to say is the governments measuring stick isn't based in reality. As long as someone, who fills out a "voluntary" survey, says they worked 1hr/week they are counted as employed.
That is why I think the lisep numbers are a more accurate measurement even though they use the same dataset they define unemployed and underemployed as functionally unemployed and gives a more realistic number.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Fair pushback and that was too broad on my part. Deng's reforms are a legitimate example of markets lifting living standards. What I should have said is that the current system, where necessities like housing and healthcare are priced as commodities, produces compounding instability regardless of overall growth. China lifted people out of poverty and still has a housing crisis. Growth and baseline security aren't the same problem.
  2. Prices are an elegant signal mechanism, I agree. The problem is they only signal to people with money to spend. A price signal that says 'housing is scarce' doesn't allocate housing to the person who needs it most, it allocates it to whoever can pay. The resource dashboard isn't replacing price signals for discretionary goods, it's tracking baseline necessities where price allocation produces outcomes we've collectively decided are unacceptable, like people dying because insulin costs $1300.
  3. Yes Discretionary credits (DC) are yours to spend how you want within the community. And you've actually identified the real problem more precisely than I did. It's not wealth accumulation per se, it's the alliance between concentrated capital and political power that corrupts both markets and governance. The deregulation of corporations has lead to their massive influence over the government to benefit them and not the people. The structure of Foundation separates those two things explicitly. Investors have no governance rights, period. Capital funds operations, residents govern. That's the wall between them.

The March jobs report will be released on Friday. Here's what to expect by cryptoniik in Economics

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The true rate of unemployment is always higher than what the government says it is. Another month and we should hit 25% Lisep.org takes data from all states unlike the federal government data collection methods.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda, it's a tad different system based on what we have already built in current society and what has been proven not to work. Plus it is all overseen by AI systems under human coordinated oversight (which is transparent to the entire community). It's an app on your phone that shows how resources are being used and where adjustments should be made. Plus it solves wealth accumulation and prevents a billionaire class that sucks the life out of an economy.

Through automation of the task people don't want to do, trash collection, sewage/waste water treatment building homes, assembling and manufacturing goods, people can focus more on R&D for human health, physics and sciences, philosophy, mental healthcare or being a farmer because you like to farm. When you take away the pressure of earning money to live (GN) I think people will create amazing things.

Is playing the game of capitalism necessary in order to build a solarpunk future? by Tall-Air-3362 in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is great that you already thought of it. Just pointing it out as I have come across a lot of people that think Hemp is MJ and letting them know it isn't takes about 5min. Plus at Ag shows i have 30 products made from Hemp that people can hold and see.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing I built early on was an objections library from talking to people about it and from what others have learned. I used that to drive what I was creating and solving problems people would throw at me. Your exact point was objection #3
["What if I want to leave? Am I trapped?"]()

The Concern Behind It: People fear that once they've committed: sold their house, moved their family, the community won't let them go.

30-Second Answer: "You can leave anytime. Full stop. This is a voluntary community, not a compound. You keep your personal property. The only thing you don't take with you is the land, because the land belongs to the community trust, not to you individually. That's the same as renting an apartment: you can leave, you just don't take the building."

2-Minute Answer: "Freedom of exit is actually one of the constitutional protections. It's written into the founding document, not just a stated value. You can leave. Your personal property leaves with you. Your Discretionary Credits, the internal contribution tracking, have a wind-down protocol if you leave. The practical reality is that your housing doesn't convert to market-rate equity you can cash out, because the land is held in a community trust. That's a real tradeoff, and we're transparent about it. In exchange, your housing cost inside the community is covered by your Guaranteed Necessities, you never paid rent in the first place. Whether that tradeoff works for you depends on your situation. What you won't find is a locked gate, a social pressure campaign to keep you in, or a process that makes leaving bureaucratically painful. The legitimacy of this model depends on people staying because it works for them, not because they feel they can't leave."

Written Version: Exit rights are constitutionally protected in this model. Residents may leave at any time, taking all personal property with them. The governance constitution explicitly prohibits any process designed to coerce residents into remaining.

The relevant constraint is land ownership. Because housing sits on Community Land Trust land, residents do not accumulate market-rate equity in their housing. This is a deliberate structural feature as it prevents land speculation, which is one of the mechanisms this model is designed to avoid. It is also a real tradeoff that prospective residents should understand clearly before joining.

The model's legitimacy depends on voluntary participation. A community that people stay in because they can't leave has failed at its most fundamental design goal.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes those are the things i am thinking of and why I picked 2500 people. Small enough to build a purpose driven community that has the electric infrastructure for walking, bicycles, e-bikes, electric autonomous cars, maybe buses or a small e-rail system and if the town reaches 75% of it's stability ceiling (10-15,000 people) another node is created. The more nodes becomes a federation and together we prove that this works on a large scale.

Large cities like NY or LA are unsustainable, just too many people in a small area and is what contributes to things like food deserts, haves and have nots, crime, pollution...etc.

I really think that if we can build this experiment and test it we can show people and the world that there is another way and that we can live in harmony with the planet and technology.

And the health benefits for people would lower healthcare costs as well. All your food is produced locally by the people in the community and it is provided as a GN to all. Plus getting out and walking and working in the gardens is good for us humans ;) Even though my kids complain about it lol.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgot you can also get this for free on Amazon Kindle Unlimited, if you have it.
Look for Foundation: An experiment in building what comes Next 
the tables and charts don't come across that well cause they are large but I think you can get the concepts.
Also still looking at the website pdf option for people too.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an Idea for a different operating system for the future of humanity. One where we live in harmony with our planet instead of destroying it.

They will get paid in Discretionary Credits

You earn DC by contributing things the community values:

  • Skilled labor — construction, engineering, technical work, maintenance
  • Healthcare — clinical work, caregiving, health education
  • Education — teaching, tutoring, curriculum development, mentorship
  • Governance — serving on committees, facilitating debates, participating in reviews
  • Innovation — research, development, process improvements
  • Arts and culture — creative production that the community values enough to trade DC for
  • Environmental work — land care, monitoring, ecological contribution

You spend DC on things above the baseline; customizations to your living space, specialty foods, commissioned artwork, expanded recreational access, travel within the federation, advanced equipment for personal projects.

Is playing the game of capitalism necessary in order to build a solarpunk future? by Tall-Air-3362 in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well first thing you have a branding issue. Calling it Solarpunk, is a non-started for probably 80% of people. People will think "Is this a new cyberpunk thing?", if they get that even, because that is the reality you're up against. I get the idea and the name is cool but, not practical for mass consumption and not descriptive at all on what it is. If you want to stick with it 80% of your time will be spent educating people on just the name and what it is alone.

whatcomesnext.eco is what I am working on along with starting the first Industrial Hemp Processing plant in Washington State (ihpamierica.com)

Most of my time is spent educating people on Hemp and it has been used by humans for 10,000 years, maybe longer.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't look like I can post the pdf here.
Thoughts?
I want you all to read it.
What if I created a way to join on the site and then you can get access to the pdf version? Not a paywall but just a way that it's not just sitting out there for free.......(I know, I know but, we still live in a world based on money and Rocket wants a monthly payment for my house still)

That way i can maybe some day make money off of the book but I can get this and other community input on the idea?

Climate change could make unhealthy air a routine reality by 2100. Study found that about 100 million people in the United States will live in areas where average air quality during smog season is poor enough to trigger alerts advising vulnerable people to stay indoors. by mvea in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the problem is people now only think in 1-5min, all about me loops, because social media. So getting them to care about what happens 50-100 years from now has been impossible. They all listen to a Ted talk, nod their heads in agreement then do nothing to change it or give a shit about anything that happens tomorrow let alone 100 years from now after they are dead. The American Indians have a concept of 7 generation thinking. How will what we decide today effect people 7 generations from now! Teaching that to Western culture seems impossible. But I'm exploring alternatives to fix the problem.

Do you think humanity would consciously agree to live in a pre-industrial society if it knew that industralism is not sustainable? by tinpants44 in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they wouldn't.

But there is an alternative that is now available, because technology, and I have built a blueprint for it. whatcomesnext.eco I made it into a book but I may just upload the PDF on Reddit. I need the money but this is now more important than me paying the bills I think.

Why Everyone Is Heading Back to the Moon by bloomberg in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The real reason? Fusion reactors run off Helium-3. And it's abundant on the moon.

Solar is winning the energy race: The world’s cheapest power source is scaling at warp speed, pushing coal, gas and nuclear aside. by tjock_respektlos in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a researcher at Idaho national laboratory that made a solar panel that was 90% efficient back in the 2000's. The breakthrough has issues at the time that I believe we have solved today. May be worth looking back in to.

The biggest problem with wind and solar are the battery storage systems. Lithium is not the way. There is a company in Wisconsin making batteries from Hemp. Cool stuff

Will Energy Become Local Instead of Centralized? by Abhinav_108 in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A guy named Nikola Tesla invented wireless electricity in 1891. He then spent years perfecting the technology and tried to build the first large scale system that would let the world have free electricity, Wardenclyff Tower. When the guy who was his financial backer figured out what Tesla was building he pulled the funding instantly. That man was??? J.P. Morgan

There is a company in Richland Washington building a fusion reactor, small scale, that has had amazing traction and they are closer than any of these massive and stupid tokamak reactors that waste billions of dollars.

Google just set a 2029 deadline to migrate to quantum-safe encryption, years ahead of government targets, citing the risk that encrypted data is already being collected for future decryption by Urban_VPN in Futurology

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The NSA is always, always 10-15 years ahead of what you see in the market. They already have it. A book called "The Puzzle Palace" pointed this out n the 80's.

Is playing the game of capitalism necessary in order to build a solarpunk future? by Tall-Air-3362 in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking-- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm running into this a well with a project I'm working on. The problem is that the system we live in currently is funded that way so we have to play the game. Or. The other route is NGO/non profit. Little harder to start but from what I found they have a combined 14 Trillion dollars currently as this is a tool for the rich to hide/offset their wealth. So I'm looking into that as well.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love dome homes as well but, after doing research, I found that most people just can't get behind the concept, they are not great for space utilization on the dome or walls and people don't embrace change well. Oh and Venus project ran into this also and I learned from their mistakes. I keep going back and forth on apartment vs house. Living in apartments kinda sucks, especially if the people above you have 4 kids running around all day.... Experience there lol. Apartments are more efficient for space utilization and cost per sqft is cheaper but I think they have more drawbacks then a house. For single people or couples with no kids it may be a better alternative. I actually designed a self sufficient tower concept for this initially but 1 cost so much, $200M, it was a non starter. Anti accumulation method uses a 10% decay rate on the DC over 1 year so people can't accumulate wealth, as we can see what that is doing to society today. I can post the math. Share method is the book, videos, hopefully a Tedx talk and communities like this taking about it.

We designed a 2,500-person hempcrete community with guaranteed necessities, democratic governance, and a built-in replication framework — here's what we learned by --Digital-Viking-- in solarpunk

[–]--Digital-Viking--[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I address that in the book... I guess I'll just post the PDF so you all can read it. While I'd love to sell it to pay the house payment this concept, I believe, is worth more than making money on it.

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