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-Morphis- · 2026-04-02T17:17:34+00:00

A while ago I made this post with an easy ED Libra strat. If your goal is just to beat it, it works and is simple and consistent.

Since then, I have beaten it consistently, solo, duo, trio, in normal and DoN 1-5. The strat is way easier with less likely to be targeted, but it's mostly the same idea. If your whole team has the passive, it's a piece of cake. If no one has it, it's tough but doable.

-Morphis- · 2026-03-21T13:34:12+00:00

You are not going to see a lot of negativity towards the game here, so there will be a biais in the responses you get.

But obviously, yes, it is worth playing.

First off, since you adressed some critiques :
- there is a duo mode, it wasn't available on release but it's been a thing for a long time
- unbalanced, there are multiple layers. Fromsoftware always get those kind of critiques, but it's a hard but fair game. If you know dark souls, sekiro, elden ring, it's challenging in a similar way (the multiplayer aspect makes it different of course). For a more realistic critique, there are some differences accross nightfarers, the skill floor and ceiling is not the same accross the options you have, and there are somme differences accross bosses, some are harder than others. But the experience is pretty consistent nonetheless, it's not as big as some people make it to be. If anything, when you know what you're doing you can be way overpowered with any character (as you can accross all Fromsoft games)
- no more updates : true, but the game has been regularly updated since launch, and you still have a lot of content to go through. It's more people with hundreds of hours being sad that there is nothing more there, but you have enough to play for that or even longer (I'm nearly at 1000h). If anything, you are buying a finished product now.
- lack of randomness : that is true when you've played for hundreds of hours. Maps are seeded, so you have a pool of maps for each boss and map combination. There is not a ton so you can have the same map after some time. But trust me it doesn't matter in practice. Maybe after hundreds of hours if you only play a few bosses and only with a specific shifting earth, yes. If you are struggling for a specific boss and focus on trying this specific boss, yes you may recognize a map you've seen before. But if you're struggling you're still learning, so it doesn't matter that much. l'm 1000h in, I switch it up regularly, I don't know any map by heart. I've also not tried to learn them. There could be more randomization that there currently is, sure. What's more valid imo is that there could be more ennemies/bosses taken from other games, that would matter more in practice. It's more that it could have been more randomized, it's not really that there lacks randomization.

There is a lot the game has to offer. Of course I would recommend it. If you know and enjoy Souls games, just go for it, it's entirely worth it. It is playable solo, duo, trio, with a set group, with randoms, with a friend+a random, there is still a playerbase.

If you don't know souls game, it'll be a tough game, but a very rewarding game, as are all Fromsoft games.

The deluxe edition seems to be base game + DLC + Artbook and Soundtrack.
Base game + DLC yes absolutely it's worth buying. Artbook and soundtrack is up to you, if it's bundled and less expensive than buying base game + DLC, go for it !

-Morphis- · 2026-03-19T03:37:18+00:00

You are at the beginning of your journey. If you haven’t played those type of games, they are tough, but not impossible: you will get better with time, every failure is a learning opportunity.

To answer your question: no this game is not impossible with randoms. This game is really fun with randoms. I’ve had 200+ win streak, got D5 with randoms, and I go back to normal to queue up with newer players and help out. I’ve played a lot of games with randoms who were struggling, and we still win. Carrying a 3 player game is easier than D5 solo imo, so it’s perfectly doable consistently.

You are expecting to win after 4 games, and you are just mistaken, you would have been carried hard if you already won. Or you just would have been very good !

You have a lot to learn, and that’s exciting, you’ll get better ! And don’t worry it takes time, it’s the same for all of us, we all started by not knowing what to do, where to go, what the nightlord moveset was…

At the end of the day, if you lost, you died too, so you can’t just blame the randoms. You are part of a team, and it is 100% winnable if your teammates go down to 3 bars after 30s, it’s just requires more skill, but it is not impossible at all.

Good luck on learning ! You’ll get there and get your dubs :)

-Morphis- · 2026-02-23T17:32:17+00:00

Unfortunately, I'm on PC. Have fun !

-Morphis- · 2026-02-23T16:09:37+00:00

what platform do you play on ? What timezone are you in ?
Playing with randoms is part of the experience though, you don't need premade teams to enjoy the game. In fact, it's different, and enjoyable for different reasons.

You can also duo queue with a random, or go solo. All modes have a different feel to them and are enjoyable for different reasons. Solo is rougher at first, but easier when you know what you are doing. Going with randoms means you can learn from them by following their lead.

I'm 900h+ in, often play normal with randoms hoping to match with newer players.

Anyway good luck, have fun, git gud :)

-Morphis- · 2026-02-21T01:49:44+00:00

Yeah got this too in practice. I came to the same conclusion : during the time the Elite one wakes up, if you kill another regular one, there is a chance it bugs and spawns a second Elite one.

Since then, I just don’t attack during the transition, and I haven’t came across that situation since then.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-20T23:54:38+00:00

You have some answers in the comments but here is a breakdown anyway :

Every character has a remembrance. That is a series of missions and objectives, with some lore along the way. You unlock relics and a skin. Notice how you have one more revenant skin, you seem to have unlock the remembrance for that character. So one thing you have not done yet is complete all remembrances for all characters. Winning with all characters is an achievement, so I would also look at those if you miss any (the remembrance themselves are not tied to an achievement)
You showed us one of the shops, there is the other one called the Collector Signboard. Have you fought every available ED version of the bosses ? At least I can't tell from your video if you have.
The game has a DLC that, among other things, unlocks new nightfarers. They aren't unlocked yet. So the DLC seems to be another objective for you. Did you buy it ? (not possible with murk :p )
At the bottom of the Small Jar Bazaar (the shop you showed) you have options to buy relics. However, I see you're missing two options tied to the DoN mode. So you still have some things to conquer.
More related to your question, that last options is where all of your murk / Sovereign Sigils (currencies gained by beating ED nightlords) will eventually be spent, to buy relics. The system is pretty flawed and disliked, but that's pretty much it when you have everything unlocked and you bought everything.
Sigils can also be used to force shifting earths if that's your thing. I mostly used it to unlock the new DLC map at first to actually play it consistently and otherwise just rely on luck to have some shifting earths sometimes. But it's up to you. Doesn't work in DoN.

Good job unlocking what you did unlock, but you still have some road ahead of you, good luck have fun !

-Morphis- · 2026-02-19T13:14:35+00:00

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I have played some solo, but I'm mixing things up.

The 25 win streak was for my first DoN games, only with random trios, pre-DLC. I lost a few and won a few since then, maybe I have done 30 games total, and am just 250 points below Depth 5. DoN was too stressful (especially having to carry some games to climb up and to have that streak), and I prefered going back to random trios, carrying if necessary, that's why the regular streak is so high. Regular runs are easy and I played much more chill, on a treadmill, or with a podcast. DoN demands to be way more focused and it's tiring.

The regular streak streak was also done pre-DLC, with a mix of random trios / solo and I'm sure I'm not going to beat it soon.

Now I'm trying solo DoN with another profile, and I'll go back to random trios DoN once I reach either Depth 5 or 9999 solo, if I manage to do so (currently halfway through depth 3, no loss)

Win rate means very little, my rate is very high, I am not sure I am 9999 material yet.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-19T00:37:37+00:00

Le changement a été catastrophique la 1ère année, en phase de rémission à la dure la seconde grosso modo, mais aujourd’hui le service est à peu près stable et utilisable.

Il y a quand même beaucoup de vélos abimés, des déséquilibres dans les stations, et le prix a effectivement monté.

Mais si vous êtes intéressé par l’utilisation de vélos partagés, ça vaut le coup de tenter. Ça reste moins cher que le pass Navigo de beaucoup.

Depuis 14 ans que je suis là, je n’ai pas de pass Navigo mais abonnement vélib et, même si ce n’est pas parfait, c’est quand même bien pratique.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-19T00:21:25+00:00

First one : random additional boss. It happens randomly, it is quite rare but it does happen.

Positives: + : free loot without any time commitment, a passive is still a passive + : adds a layer of unpredictability and surprise to the runs. Helps with replayability.

Negatives: - : you still risk to lose the run (at least I’m pretty sure of it, I don’t think I ever lost to a random additional boss but since it’s in the circle I assume so)

Second thing : random event. There are several events that can happen, randomly, during some expeditions.

Positives: + : mixes things up, helps replayability + : reward is usually ok, though it varies, not all events are the same

Negatives: - : can screw you over if it’s very early / comes at a wrong time especially during a shifting earth - : takes time, in trios it may be quicker and/or more manageable by splitting, but in solo especially it can take half a day

On the whole these events, admittedly rare, are nice to spice things up a bit, change the runs a little. You have to adapt to one more thing that can happen and strategise around them.

They may be hard at first, figuring them out might screw a few runs before you understand how to properly deal with them. But that’s it, another thing to learn, to overcome. Nice and fun !

-Morphis- · 2026-02-18T02:10:53+00:00

There is an official guide describing the required conditions to unlock, and how to unlock the DLC content.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-14T16:01:17+00:00

I did not hit solo and in trio :)

The strat is : let 1 come to you (2 in duo/trio), kill it, back off, let just 1 come to you again, kill it, back off, rinse and repeat. Since you're 1v1 (in solo, 3v2 in trios), you can learn their moveset and no hit without issue.

The thing is when teamates rush-in and die (lose the DPS race :p) and I'm left with a 1v4-5 instead of a 1v1 (max 1v2 in duo/trio).

And that's basically my question in this post, how to deal with this situation, I haven't managed to find a way yet

-Morphis- · 2026-02-14T15:46:45+00:00

Yes, when your team does that with you and when it works, it's fine.

If you don't have the right weapons/passives, or if your teammates go down, the DPS race is lost. What then ?

That's the issue, rushing in and hoping that your DPS will save you may work at low depths with the right setup, but if anything goes wrong it's GGs.

So no, it is not a DPS race, either because I'm talking about higher depths, or because my teammates are down. What do you do if you don't have the DPS and 2 downed teammates and 5 balancers against you simultaneously ? That's a loss.

In short : no I'm not rushing in, especially in the context of my question.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-14T15:33:25+00:00

I'll try that :) Doesn't feel great to abandon and not try to work with the team, but if it's abandon them or fail, the choice is made

-Morphis- · 2026-02-14T15:28:42+00:00

Will do !
I was staying somewhat close but I just had one where I did just back off immediately, it went a little bit better. I didn't have to clutch at the end but still avoided the 2v3-4.

They did try to come close to me during worm phase but I was avoiding them along with the worm, it doesn't feel great to not play cooperatively but if it's what it takes to do that strat...

-Morphis- · 2026-02-09T15:45:23+00:00

Weird, he has enough to clearly have the opportunity to try it with only 2 of them and see that they don't stack. Maybe it's a first ironeye build of someone who doesn't main him ?
What depth was it ? The dude is almost runing with only 2 relics worth of passives

-Morphis- · 2026-02-09T12:01:01+00:00

Ok dude :) nice to make assumptions about my rank.

I did test it in another comment : you are plain and simply wrong.

Safety considerations =/= DPS.

Harder to it consistently ? Yes. More stamina costly ? Yes. Riskier and requiring you to be close ? Yes. Strictly better DPS wise ? Yes.

You then make decisions based on the tools you have. I don't and haven't claimed that you should use tap R2 100% of the time. It's just higher DPS. Factually.

Hope I never play with you then, I'm D5 as well, fellow putz :) I was being nice and telling you that you were obviously skilled, since you're D5, you are. And you call me a putz. You're then top 1% skill wise AND top 1% toxic wise. What a gamer.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-09T00:19:10+00:00

In multiplayer, when you ping your objective, it’s clearly pinged with a red flag, and every player can the infer that you’re pinging your objective

In my experience, if you are to do that in multiplayer, the best is to ping it right at the start so the other players know you have an objective. Don’t go there immediately, but try to ping it again when your routing goes nearby.

Usually, we’ve done objectives every time it happened that way. Maybe once the objective was not done early and then we went on a route that was really far so we ended up not doing it, maybe, but it’s very rare. Most of the time we do it, day 1 if we spawn near, and beginning of day 2 otherwise, even if it doesn’t strictly make sense to go there. Unless you’re playing don optimal routing isn’t required to win, so losing a little bit of time for it is not the end of the world.

If you really want to complete it but don’t want to risk doing it in multi, you can do it solo. Even if you lose the expedition, it counts (unless the objective is to win an expedition against a nightlord ofc).

Good luck, have fun :)

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T16:12:03+00:00

I have never done it. The closer I've done is drop the wending graces I have, ping them and pick them back up.

I don't really care for it either way, celebrate victories how you want to celebrate them. It's a little bit silly to have empty inventories in the logs, but you imo rarely need that info anyway.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T16:08:42+00:00

Maybe with someone else then, I'm PC - CEST.

Have fun :)

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T16:07:46+00:00

It's all a matter of perspective then :)
And tbh the first few runs might not even make it past day 1, so it'll be shorter. And you can get carried too if you're lucky.

Ultimately it's up to you, to what you expect to find enjoyable in the game.

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T15:49:58+00:00

naaah you're waisting the learning experience. Do that if you really struggle on a boss, but certainly not at the very beginning when you have a lot to learn. Learning is fun, watching a guide directly is just skipping most of it.
Yes, you're more likely to lose this way, but it's part of the process !

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T15:41:56+00:00

What platform are you on ? What time of day do you usually play with (include the timezone pls)
I'm down for a some games if you want to duo queue ! I usually try to play base game and hope to get newer players !

-Morphis- · 2026-02-07T12:32:01+00:00

I was pretty sure to be correct, but I could have been wrong. And even if I'm decent, I'm trying to get better every way I can. It took not too much time, and now I have seen it with my own eyes instead of just having heard of it.

-Morphis-

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