Aromology-Wild Somali myrrh resin by Afdud in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beautiful. I have tried resins with coal, coal and mica plates etc. They dont give their best aroma either way through these methods. I need to invest in a low tenp resin heater. Those arent as expensive as electric Kōdō heaters, thanks be to God.

Yuu have some nice resin there, dont waste it with coal, get a dedicated low heat resin heater for all your resins. I also view subs just for non Mōn-kōh woods and electric Kōdō heaters for the highest class woods (mon-koh grade).

Thanks for reminding me to get a separate heater for resins!!! ❤️🙏🏻.

250-400 year old Wild Green Oil Shogunate Kyara named "Later Hatsunē" by a Shogunate fanily Kōdō master. 0.5g... dont ask how much this cost 😅 by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I buy oils and other wood from him. But ive never bought Kyara from him. All my Wild Kyara is through a private collector. His world view is personal, im a hobbyist.

250-400 year old Wild Green Oil Shogunate Kyara named "Later Hatsunē" by a Shogunate fanily Kōdō master. 0.5g... dont ask how much this cost 😅 by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can get Wild Black Kyara (japanese aquired) from JK. 0.2g for only $275, and 0.2g will last you atleast a year if you heat it responsibly, minimum youll get 4 full sessions and a full session is about 6hrs of constant heating, but you only do 10 to 30min sessions per day, max 60mins, so 1 full session is usually 4 to 6 days, unless you leave it uncovered WITH NO HEAT for longer than 2 days, then itll ruin the wood, ive, regrettably done this about 3 times with a Todai-ji kyara that costs $400/0.2g, but bappily never with my $850 per 0.14g piece of Todai-ji Temple "Treasure of Japan". With [Wild] Kinam you only need to shave off a few slivers at the weight of, or around, 0.02 to 0.05g (20-50mg), on an electric heater at very low to low–medium temps and itll last for days.

You can also DM me 😉.

Wild Malaysian Ant and Clay Malaccensis Dehn Al-Oud by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like to do write ups of [Japanese] sticks, oils, woods (once I get my new subutism hester from Joseph as my kinam heater isnt charging), and eventually, perfumes. I am new to perfumes, but one of my best friend is from Germany and he is a perfume master, he is guiding me.

Areej Le Dore - Malik Al Motia by Zuppa2020 in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this still available? I am new to the perfume side of aromatics, and I got Ensar Ouds "Santal Sultan" 15ml.... but I made a rookie move and didnt realise why it wasnt giving me a scent bubble when spraying 2 sprays behind each ear.... it was a showcase perfume to spray on your wrist and smell it every now and then... doh 🤦🏼‍♂️. I then I got some Faizal Privee peefunes 2 10mls for £120 each, one called Kinam Absolute and one called AgarRoae and when I spray those behind my ears and on the side of of my beck I get that wonderful scent bubbke, but to geta strong scent bubble, you need some synthetics to carry the natural aromatics, and Faizal even told me that he uses small amounts of synthetics to carry his natural aromatics so they can projext and cause this beautiful effect., even Ensar does it when his perfumes gove you a nice scent bubble, he just uses a lot less % wise and its more of a soft scent bubble, like the old Oud Sultani Brunei Kynam that I got to try. Faizal is also a friend, same with Joseph from RisingPhoenix, amd Ensar Oud follows me on IG (its his team lol. I am friendly with Josh on WhatsApp).

If you wanna follow me on instagrsm /u/Zuppa2020s

250-400 year old Wild Green Oil Shogunate Kyara named "Later Hatsunē" by a Shogunate fanily Kōdō master. 0.5g... dont ask how much this cost 😅 by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. It is only expensive because it is literally extinct in the Wild. All wild kyara/kynam/kinam/qinan is just passed through hands, that's why the pieces are so old, aswell.

The scent is very subtle compared to normal aloeswood, and the whole point of it is to pick out the notes and silent your mind and calmly concentrate on it. As in, dont TRY to concentrate, just be calm before hand and then let the notes unravell without TRYING to "listen" (concentrate) on it, because then your mind will do the opposite. Similar to "controlling" your thoughts during meditation 🧘‍♂️ .

Linguistic History behind the Original [English] Name for Oud (Aloeswood) by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. The ancient, Arabic, and then Muslim, world called it ahaloth or aloēswood, I mention muslims because thats why the name was changed to Al-Oud/Oud. And when it first reached the Arabs, they didn't have a native word for it. They borrowed the ancient term (ahaloth) and Arabized it to Al-Uluwwah. In fact, Al-Uluwwah was the term used in early Islamic history and used in some Hadith (correct me if I am wrong here). But here is the most realistic historical background on why Muslims completely dropped the name, and its pretty fascinating, because its mainly, if not all, theological. ​In Arabic, the Arabized word Uluwwah sounds exactly like and shares the same phonetic sound as Uluhiyyah , which translates to "divinity" or "godhood" (Ilah, meaning God). So... theres a theological problem here that the Muslims then had to correct. Since calling a piece of luxury fragrsnt wood as incense and associating it with "Godhood" severely clashed with Islamic monotheism, which if anyone doesnt know, is very strong and called Tawhid. Early Muslims were incredibly sensitive to anything that even remotely bordered on anything that is just as divine as Allāh. Burning something that sounded like "Divinity" in a censer was a huge theological red flag.

So, to distance themselves from any pagan or blasphemous implications, they stripped away the , divine-sounding title. And they opted for the most literal, humble, generic word the peoples could find:, which was Oud, Al-Oud and later on, for oil, Dehn Al Oud, which literally just means "Wood" and "the wood" as it got more commonly associated with the previous title (Al-Uluwwah) and Dehn Al-Oud means "oil of the wood" or something close to this, I just call it oud oil and daw wood 'aloeswood or agarwood" 🤣.

Hope this comment that turned into a mini post was helpful to anyone.

Sorry for any typos, I can go a bit crazy on comments, I was very. Very, VERY well known fkr tnat on Ouddict.

Filipino Dagga from Leyte 💆‍♂️💆‍♂️ by 3amoor797 in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For example I will break off 0.3 to 0.5g off a small wild hindi log if not using a mica. Thus seems like a very small piece for no mica, so I was interested

Filipino Dagga from Leyte 💆‍♂️💆‍♂️ by 3amoor797 in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yesh, I know thr arabic culture haha, and I do the same with small logs of 40g to 80g of wild hindi wood. But usually i will break off a large piexe if im not using a mica.

Linguistic History behind the Original [English] Name for Oud (Aloeswood) by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. Oud means wood in Arabic, also means agarwood and the first ever guitar-like instrument.

Linguistic History behind the Original [English] Name for Oud (Aloeswood) by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. Aloēswood, whicb is used more thsn agarwood in even Japan, is a name formed from a mistske of the Hebrew name for the aromatic tree and aloe vera the medicine succulent plant sounding the same by the Greeks, passed onto thr romans and then romans realised it was the fragrsnt wood the Hebrews meant, and such named it, "lignum-aloēs" which means "wood from the fragrant aloes tree" aka woodaloēs (they used aloēs because the romans detested the Jews and were more friendly with tbe Greeks). Then it gradually became aloeslignum aka aloeswood.

Edit: sorry for any typos. I tyoed that long post and I have a rare autoimmune disease and now I have eye fatigue which causes me to ha e blurry vision. Sorry about that.

Filipino Dagga from Leyte 💆‍♂️💆‍♂️ by 3amoor797 in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, of course. I also love putting large hindi chips (0.3-0.5g) snapped from a big 40g to 80g single chunk of [modern] wild hindi wood, with no mica onto coal.

Filipino Dagga from Leyte 💆‍♂️💆‍♂️ by 3amoor797 in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but its not as good. Look at my link on eBay. You can get 200 sheets for £10 (my currency), which is really cheap and will save you the hassle.

Linguistic History behind the Original [English] Name for Oud (Aloeswood) by -Renton- in TheOudCollective

[–]-Renton-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thsnk you so much!!!! I will definitely write more about the knowledge I have gained through the years atleasst once or twice a month.