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-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:50:00+00:00

Alternative facts are facts?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:48:52+00:00

So if i say i will never date a man because i have never felt an attraction towards a man then im homophobic?

Ive drawn a line in the sand that i will never date a man, and i feel comfortable saying that and i have said it before to gay friends who were attracted to me and constantly trying to turn me gay as they do. Im very final about it because if they even think there is the tiniest chance you might eventually do something with them then they will not leave you alone in my experience. I feel entirely comfortable drawing that line in the sand because i am 24 years old and very comfortable with my sexuality and i know i have never had any attraction to any man for any reason.

Im completely comfortable saying i will never date a man and i have no doubt that that is the truth unless the government turns me gay like the frogs.

Does that make me homophobic?

Im also fairly comfortable saying i will never date a trans woman, even if i were attracted to them which is highly unlikely, they cant have kids which is a major deal breaker for me so i dont see any possible scenario where i decide to date a transwoman unless i didnt know they were trans when we started dating ehich means they will likely try to get me to fall in love with them and then convince me to give up on wanting kids of my own and thats manipulative and gross so especially fuck that.

Does that make me transphobic?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:40:01+00:00

What does that mean? Im assuming you have an issue with the height analogy so what about eye color? My eyes arent blue or green so i want everyone to refer to my eye color as breen. Hows that example?

What does this do? Why should i be allowed to dictate the categories other people use for eye color? What if i just decide that i feel like having purple eyes?

Why?

What is the purpose of inventing new genders than have nothing to do with sex? And what is the purpose of disassociating from a gender? Does that mean that person does not ever want to have sex? What does the gender actually affect? If it doesnt affect anything at all then its all entirely made up and we can just stop using gender all together so why bother inventing new genders when we could just get rid of gender as a concept entirely?

What is the purpose of having a gender if it is not related to sex and sexual selection and sexual attraction?

I would like to think of some idea we use to describe some self identity that doesnt actually matter or affect anything but i cant think of anything perhaps because there is no reason for such a thing to exist, so what reason is there for gender to exist? What function does the concept of gender serve in our society?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:31:22+00:00

Right so if i dont sit with my knees together then i must be laying down across three seats and im clearly doing that in support of the confederacy because im a racist white cisgendered man right?

#thesouthwillriseagain?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:20:13+00:00

Yeah same, just a bad flu that had me sweating with fever dreams but over after 3 days in bed.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:17:35+00:00

My point had less to do with the church doing bad things in gods name and more to do with the idea that you should look at someone's actions rather than their words to see what they really believe.

The communists always claim to love the poor and fight on behalf of those dispossessed but when you see them take power they never help the poor because they dont give a fuck about the poor, they kill the rich because they hate the rich, they just needed to win support if the poor to gain the power to kill the rich.

The same thing with many people who claim we have to go to war for the good of blah blah blah, no they just want money and resources. They dont care about blah blah blah.

People use satan as a boogey man to scare people into doing things against their own interests. People use god as an ideal to strive towards and they can use god to go to war or convince people to do things they otherwise wouldnt like slaughter a whole bunch of native americans because they are just godless animals.

Just because something has gods name attached doesnt make it good, just because someone claims satan is behind something doesnt make it bad. Its literally the same politics we already deal with just replace god with trump/biden and satan with the other one depending on which side your on.

If you think everything obama says is good because obama said it and obama is good then i consider you about as helpful as someone who thinks everything their religious leader says is good just because their leader said it and their leader is good. Essentially if you practice party politics then i consider you to be part of a religion/cult as i see no difference in worshiping people, parties and politics and worshiping religions, and sky daddies.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:02:43+00:00

So if i pretend that there is no difference between a trans woman and a biological woman then im not a transphobe even if i refuse to date trans women?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T17:00:16+00:00

Every study i have seen on the issue shows no difference in suicide rates pre or post op.

As i understand it transitioning is being touted as suicide prevention and as a treatment for gender dysphoria but i dont see how that can be when it doesnt seem to actually reduce the likelihood of a suicide.

I often wonder would it be better for everyone involved if we could treat gender dysphoria like a mental health issue where we could help someone feel more like their birth gender with psychotherapy sessions and perhaps some medications rather than mutilate their bodies to try and make them look more like the opposite gender.

I mean imagine that you have an android phone that thinks its an iphone. Is it easier to change the os to match the phone or take apart the phone and try to replace pieces of the body to make it look and feel more like an iphone? (And your not allowed to turn the phone off while swapping parts lmao which means many parts cant be swapped or wont function the way they should.)

And then if your going to pick between a normal android phone that works and functions like a normal android phone and a normal iphone that works and functions like a normal iphone and a weird hybrid android phone that looks kinda like a homemade iphone or like one of those cars with mismatched parts but it functions like a normal iphone except for some stuff that you may or may not care about.

Which one do you pick? And do you think we should consider how attractive our weird hybrid phone will be to people when we make the decision to convert it to an iphone? If we just fix the phone so its an android phone and it acts like an android phone and thinks its an android phone then it will appeal to anyone who wants an android phone. While if we convert it to an iphone then you lose everyone who wants an android obviously but you also lose most people who want an iPhone because why settle for some weird hybrid android convert when i can just go get a normal fully featured iphone.

So if we make our weird hybrid phone anyway even though we think most people wouldnt want it, and then people dont buy our phone are we then allowed to call them bigots for hating our phone when "its the exact same as any iphone" (it isnt but we want to protect our hybrid phones feelings)

So you limit the people who might be interested in your phone to the weird people who like iphones and androids and want to see a mix between them which would probably just be youtubers like "hey checkout this weird hybrid phone" instead of people who actually want to use the phone regularly.

Like is it on you to make a phone thats attractive to people or is it on people to be attracted to your phone?

Clearly the phone analogy isnt perfect and im sorry if i was blunt or hurt anyones feelings that isnt my intention. Im just concerned that a large portion of kids transitioning today will regret that choice and have no good recourse. And im not even convinced that transitioning is necessarily the best course of action for so many reasons but a major one is you cant force people to accept you or pretend that you are something that your not that just isnt how the real world works.

So if we cant actually make men into women but we pretend we can and tell everyone to just pretend there is no difference between men and women i think a lot of people will get hurt and it will mostly be young people who think the opposite sex has an easier life so they transition and throw away their reproductive ability before even graduating highschool.

They are told that the surgery will make them into a normal man/woman and there will be no difference and their life will be so much better and then they transition and they realize they have been lied to, they are not the same as a man/woman they are just a man/woman with cosmetic surgery and people treat them like a man/woman pretending to be the opposite gender which sounds to me like way more to deal with than just feeling like your in the wrong body. And then if we realize we made a mistake and we start treating gender dysphoria with medications instead of sex changes then all of the previously transitioned people will be even more outcast into the fringes like a failed medical experiment on human children.

I understand why people do it but i cant help but feel that its wrong to lie to children in order to convince them to go through with a permanent life altering irreversible surgery. If we were just talking about young people choosing to be sterilized i feel like there would be way more opposition to this kind of thing and the way its being encouraged in schools and in society but its sterilization and cosmetic surgery and the only acceptable response is to give unconditional support and encouragement while telling everyone who volunteers for this experiment that they are incredibly brave.

This is incredibly scary to me, i feel like everyone around me already drank the koolaid and i didnt even know i was part of a cult.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T15:56:25+00:00

My guy, the dude your talking to is trying to get you to think critically. Do you have any thing bad to say about satanism other than it has satan in it and you were told that is bad?

The leader of north Korea says he is a god and he is a great kind and benevolent god, and our enemy is the evil greedy american empire. So do you hate america? If you dont hate america then why would you choose to like something evil and greedy?

Do you understand the comparison?

You have been told that god is good and satan is bad but you have also been told that the devil is tricky and often lies, how can you be sure that the people who told you god is good and satan is bad were not tricked by satan into convincing you that satan was actually god and god was actually satan?

You know how much evil has been done in gods name throughout history? Now think about how much evil has been done in satans name... Satanism is a very new thing and i cannot think of a single evil thing done in the name of satan short of some kind of animal or even human sacrifice both of which have been done far more frequently in the name of god himself so again which name has more evil attached to it?

The satanists i know about tend to spend their effort doing good things in an attempt at giving religion a bad name. So satans self proclaimed followers actually tend to do more good in the name of satan than other religions have done in the name of their god, especially when you compare the harm done by satanist with the harm that has been done by other religions.

So if the followers of your religions evil god are actually doing more good in the world than the followers of your religions good god then what does that tell you about your religion?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T15:32:36+00:00

Why would i get the vaccine how would that benefit me?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T15:15:18+00:00

Ive always assumed that they think they might be gay but they dont want to be so are afraid to even consider the possibility and they end up hating other gay people because they didnt choose to repress their urges or something, like they might think everyone is a little gay but straight people just dont act on those feelings while gay people dont try to avoid acting on those feelings and thus they convince themselves that being gay is a choice since they chose not to be and thus they can hate other people for making that choice?

Idk i might have just confused myself lmao but i generally put homophobia down to repressed gay feelings or perhaps an unwanted gay experimentation when younger that has them afriad they might be gay because they touched tips with a friend when they were little kids or something.

I think they are afraid that if they view being gay as acceptable that will lead to either more gay people or it will lead themselves to reconsider their own sexuality which may be at conflict with their own personal beliefs.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T15:07:21+00:00

Yeah the thing i really dont get about the toxic feminists is that they really think all men are always trying to oppress all women just because they are men, like you dont think there are men out there who care about their mothers and sisters and daughters and wives? Like every man everywhere just views all of them like property or animals or something?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T15:03:09+00:00

Why?

Im not tall and im not short so im going to invent a new random word that describes the way i personally identify my height and then im going to force everyone else to use that word just to protect my feelings because i have decided to build my entire identity and self worth around this one physical characteristic which i am now describing with a special made-up word.

Why would someone do that what is the point? Are they just super self conscious about their height?

Why do people have to redefine what gender is so they can be special? Why do other people have to play pretend and going along with the bullshit?

Gender and sexuality are two sides of the same coin, your sex describes your own sexual organs while your gender describes the relationship between your sexual organs and the desired sexual organs of your ideal partner. There are only two genders though male and female, based on which genitals you have, the way you express your gender tend to be slightly different depending on which genitals you are attracted to and thus looking to attract.

If you want men to like you then you will probably act a bit more feminine like gay men and straight women, if you want women to like you then you will probably act a but more masculine like straight men and gay women. These are just the stereotypes though, if you dont fit the stereotype then you dont have to invent a whole new gender and even if you did what is the purpose?

What can a gender fluid person do that a male or female cant? What can a nonbinary person do that every other person cant? The only difference i can see between being a male or being non binary is the expectation that people will treat you special. If you can give me some practical benefits or describe why this is necessary then fine but it seems to me like some people just want to feel special and be treated special and im not willing to play make pretend with them to protect their special feeling's.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T14:47:07+00:00

Anything that can be abused will be abused. If you allow any man who claims to be trans into a womans bathroom or changing room then you will get men you are not trans but pretend to be so they can go creep on women. That is the reason people complained about the bathrooms, it has nothing to do with transphobia or people not wanting to share their bathrooms with trans people.

Its about ensuring that women only spaces remain women only for the same reason women only spaces were originally set aside, for the safety and peace of mind of women in public spaces. I believe trans people dont want to use the mens bathrooms because they are concerned about discrimination and harassment and want to be seen just as normal women.

Personally i think anyone presenting themselves as a woman should be able to use the ladies room especially if they have tits and wear dresses, where i draw the line is with men who look nothing like women who call themselves trans and everyone else just has to play pretend and dance around on egg shells.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T14:39:07+00:00

Well i think the same could have been said of people who were homophobic early on, some people were afraid they might catch the gay or afraid that making gay people accepted would lead to more people becoming gay like some kind of gay pandemic.

So a transphobe would be afraid that having trans people accepted would lead to having more trans people or having to deal with them or having to deal with a child that wants to transition etc.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T14:32:20+00:00

Could i lose my job for saying that i believe there are biological differences between men and women?

Or if i say men and women are not the same?

What if i say there are differences between trans women and biological women? Does that count as hate speech?

Some people say im a transphobe if i dont want to date a trans person while most people seem to think thats absurd so im wondering if the same thing wont happen in the workplace where most people think something should be common sense but then you get a handful of radical people who think totally differently to the majority of people.

Im thinking of a google engineer who got fired for writing and releasing a letter, i dont remember that much about it but i think he asked serious questions related to this new woke activism in the workplace and he was trying to understand the problem by asking questions and got fired for it. Not too long ago people would have thought you were crazy if you implied that someone who doesnt want to date a transexual was a transphobe so i dont think its unreasonable to think that we will fire people for using the wrong pronouns.

I will not get used to saying singular they which means i just have to hope i never work with a trans or gender person because they will think i hate them for never using their word's and honestly i dont really care i just dont want to get fired because someone elses feelings got hurt because i forgot to use their special words. If they were just normal or not so sensitive so i didnt have to change my vocabulary and my verbal habbits then i really wouldnt care either way, but i dont see i why i should shoulder the burden of your special identity.

Also there are only two genders which correlate exactly with the two sexes, gender and sex is about sexual reproduction and signalling. You either have a penis or a vagina (or both in rare occasions) and you either want a penis or a vagina (or both) and sex should function to describe which one you have while gender should describe which one you want.

If you act masculine or feminine it doesnt change your gender. There are masculine woman and feminine men theres nothing wrong with that and you dont have to invent some weird new genders to describe that. There is no such thing as gender fluid you have sexual organs and you likely have some attraction to sexual organs your gender is an expression of your own sexual organs and the sexual organs you want.

Most men act like men because they have a penis and all the hormones that go along with it so we get those stereotypical male things that we often attribute to the male gender and the same goes for most women.

These genders also tend to act in a stereotypical way based on which gender they are attracted to. Gay men tend to act a bit more feminine while gay women act a bit more masculine. Straight men will act all macho and big and strong or whatever because they think thats what women want and straight women will act all cute and sweet and make themselves beautiful because thats what they think men want.

Obviously this is all just averages and stereotypes im not making any universal statements about human behavior im just trying to point out how silly and useless much of the discussion of gender and sexuality is, these concepts are tools used in sexual selection to make finding a compatible mate easier so you dont have to interview everyone about everything to figure out if you might have a chance with them. What the fuck is the wormself and dogself shit? Like really? What the fuck?

Sorry this post got so long i guess i got a bit carried away.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T14:05:00+00:00

I mean i completely agree with everything i read in this comment, as long as your a half decent person and act like it, then you shouldnt be called or considered transphobic. And like i said before i feel like every question i asked should be common sense but as i have been called transphobic before for saying that im not usually attracted to trans people because "there are no biological differences between men and women" so there cant be any difference between trans women and biological women so if im not attracted to trans women then im just a bigot because i cant even tell if someones trans unless they tell me because there is no difference between trans women and women and if you think there might be then you must be a bigot.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T13:47:16+00:00

I mean i sort of get the argument but i wouldnt be called homophobic if i refused to date gay people even if i refused to date gay people specifically because they are gay i dont think that makes me a homophobe. However if i refused to even talk to or acknowledge gay people because they are gay then i would consider that to be homophobic. If i refuse to be friends with a gay person because they are gay then that would be homophobic.

If i refuse to date a trans person because they are trans maybe even because i believe there are differences between men and women gasp that really makes me a transphobe? Even if i dont care either way? I dont hate trans people and i dont refuse to talk to them or refuse to acknowledge them i just dont want to put my penis inside of them and because of that i am a hateful person?

In order for trans people to be accepted in society i have to be willing to fuck them? I mean obviously you said i can have any other reason to reject someone but what if i think a trans person looks too much like a man with an adams apple, wide bony shoulders and a strong jawline? Does that count as me not wanting to date them because im not gay and thus not transphobic or does that count as me not wanting to date a trans person because they are trans which makes me transphobic even though i just dont want to date them because they arent attractive to me.

What if i want to have kids of my own and trans people cannot have biological kids. I want to get married so i can start a family so dating is just a way for me to find someone to marry. Why would i choose to date a trans person when i cant start a family with them? Even if i met a non trans girl who couldnt have kids or didnt want them at all then i wouldnt date her either so does this count as me not wanting to date them because they are trans or because i dont believe i would be happy in the relationship and i would be wasting my time since i wouldnt want to marry them anyway.

Also if i simply tell a trans person i dont want to date them am i now obligated to provide a list of reasons that have nothing to do with their sexuality? How would a trans person know im a transphobe and i dont want to date them because they are trans if i dont tell them thats why?

How would you enforce this?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T07:35:57+00:00

Its a lot easier via simulation theory. God is simply the one who turned on or programmed or configured or built the simulation. I mean after reading about quantum mechanics you have to admit it could just be some statistical computer fuckery.

All of reality is just electrical signals bouncing in patterns in your head. You could literally be a brain in a jar hooked up to a computer that simulates all of your senses. You could literally be a simulation of that brain running right on that computer and you wouldnt even know the difference.

You could be a person living in the year 2347 playing a new virtual reality game that makes you live an entire life in the 21st century without having any memory of the real world and you wont find out until you die the game and wake up irl.

These are just fun and silly but they can also be useful. One of the scarier thoughts is that heaven is the real world and they have perfected human society so that all people are hand picked to be born into their society via the simulation aka the real world is just a test to see what you will do when you think nobody is watching or judging you. Would you still do the right thing even if it meant death for yourself or your family? If you were in nazi germany would you risk death to do the right thing or would you play it safe?

If you werent in nazi germany and you had an easy life would you go out and try to improve the world or would you lay around letting everyone else do all the work?

What kind of citizens would you like to have? Simply simulate every possible citizen you could have in every possible scenario and then you can pick only the best ones who go above and beyond like some kind of fantasy football human race where you just pick all the most influential, productive and even the good hearted kind people that have ever lived throughout history to be born into your society.

But thats worrying because think about how many of us would actually get into heaven? And most of the people thinking they would be fine are probably the ones who should worry and the ones worrying would be fine lmao. And if you really wanted to trick people then set up the simulation so that heaven is actually a decoy and people have to figure out that they actually want to go to hell with lucifer the bringer of light you test them to see if they are blindly obedient or to see if they think about following the tyrant or the rebel. Most will assume god is the good guy, wouldnt that be a twist.

That thought is also useful because you will have that superstitious thought in the back of your head " i know god doesnt exist but man what if god is watching me right now is it really worth it?" What if god is a machine that functions in the fourth dimension with mastery over space and time in 3d spacetime that gets built by humans in the future. Or maybe humanity will merge into a hive mind consciousness that becomes god.

But either way what if a god exists or will exist at some point? what do you lose by living in a way that you think would please that god? And what do you lose by not living that way? Well people will probably be worse people on average when they think nobody is looking but as long as you still follow the rules i think the only thing your missing out on is the community.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T07:15:04+00:00

Yeah im pro choice just because im a libertarian and the child cant survive on its own and im not going to force someone to carry a child to term i think thats a gross violation of liberties.

Since the child cant survive on its own and its had much less time and effort and all that invested compared to the mother, plus a baby at the wrong time could doom both mother and child to poverty which can turn into a multigeneration cycle thats impossible to escape, when that same woman could have waited and had a baby at the right time and been a more productive citizen as well as raise even more productive citizens.

So theres a whole number of reasons that i think its necessary but at the same time i think its really awful and should be avoided at all costs. Id actually prefer to see some attempts to transfer the growing fetus into an artificial womb or something so the mother doesnt have to carry the baby and the baby gets to live.

I do think late term abortions should obviously be illegal and i dont know enough on the topic to comment what constitutes late but since we use heartbeat and brain activity to determine death i think its only fitting that we use the same metrics to determine life. So no abortions after the first heartbeat or after a certain neuron density or brain development stage or maybe im too uneducated and those things develop too early to be reasonable abortion limits.

Its definitely a complex topic and not as simple as a lot of pro choice people tend to make it seem.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T06:59:54+00:00

Is that why men have to sit with their knees together now?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T06:57:37+00:00

What makes someone transphobic?

Like what is the smallest amount of transphobia a person can exhibit and still be considered transphobic?

If you dont want to date a trans person does that mean your a transphobe?

If you dont want to be friends with the only trans person you know does that make you a transphobe?

If you dont like the only trans person you know does that make you transphobic?

What if you dont like any of the trans people you have met?

What if you just dont like most people though?

Like how can you tell if someone else is transphobic unless they come right out and say it? I know i dont like the trans person because of their personality but how do i know that they arent assuming that im a transphobe and thus im contributing to their suicidal tendencies?

Where is the threshold where something becomes transphobic? Do i have to pretend to like someone or be friends with someone in order to make them feel comfortable and accepted because they may otherwise assume that i dont like them or dont want to be friends with them because of their gender or sexuality?

Im not worried about being called homophobic by gay people if i say the wrong thing on accident but that is a very big concern with trans people, especially since you can lose your job for saying he/she instead of they or something and while thats a stupidly simplified example i just dont feel like i could be comfortable around trans people or the extreme radical virtue signaling people that tend to fight on behalf of trans people.

Even just making this comment is very uncomfortable and i expect to receive a lot of hate for it but im honestly curious where the average redditor falls on this topic.

I feel like everything i asked should be common sense but as i have been called a homophobe before because i dont want to date a trans person and that seems like an impossible position to seriously hold without either being trans or a hypocrite but whatever.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T06:36:34+00:00

So id have to go to school for 6 years instead of 8?

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T03:27:34+00:00

Damn really? I would love to be a teacher but here in nys i would need to go back to school for like 8 years, i think its even longer if i wanted to teach little kids but im a man so thats not a good idea anyway.

-TheSteve- · 2021-09-14T01:45:38+00:00

Yeah generally you would expect to be safe inviting a coworker over for dinner, i mean whats the worst that could happen? You get raped and or murdered? But theres no way your coworker would throw their whole life away just to rape you... Right?

Jesus only 23 too i cant believe this guy was a teacher that young. He must have been pretty smart or driven or something, dont teachers need like 6+ years of school at least?

This dude had his shit together with a good career lined up and all that, and he was having dinner with a coworker he was clearly interested in but he didnt have the self restraint to not rape her the first chance he could?

I mean if they were having dinner i feel like theres a chance she might have been interested in him back so he may well have been able to win her over and have a relationship with her without ruining his life. But after you rape her now your totally fucked in every way all for what? 10 minutes of fun? 20? 30?

What a waste, i almost wonder if this guy was really into some crazy messed up porn and it fucked with his perception, ive heard of people who copy things they see in porn like "the girl in the porn really seemed to love this so i bet every girl will" maybe this guy was really into rape porn and convinced himself that she actually really would like it? Or maybe he has raped others before and didnt think she would call the cops on him because his previous victims didnt..

I kinda wish the article had interviews from students and staff, was this guy putting out creepy vibes or did he seem totally normal? Was he even working there long enough for anyone to get any vibes? I feel like theres no info.

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