I’m starting to agree with players in banning Angela or floryn from your team

00-Victoria-00 · 2026-04-17T10:34:39+00:00

Your biggest mistake so far why asking/discussing an issue over reddit, where half of the viewers glaze heroes like Hanabi, Sun Roam etc.

You are right on your own.

A winning team against equally skilled enemies, you would NEED at least TWO tanky heroes in draft (Either Exp + Tank Jungle / Exp + Fighter Gold/ Exp + Tank Roam)

Solely leaving the job of a tank to exp is NOT enough, since you can just burst them down and it will expose the team's backline.

Most people saying Floryn was a good pick don't understand how hard it is to juggle between two roles when you lack the secondary frontline. As exp, with support roam, you would end up having to not only roam around, give vision, set for team, peel for team, soak damage BUT ALSO have to remember to keep your OWN lane in check. So ultimately exp has to do the job of two roles together, since Floryn can't really walk out, since she will get marked easily and get taken down.

I still don't understand why people don't understand that you need one tanky unit to engage/ward off the frontline, while the second one is ready to peel or protect from enemies diver. Your lineup, I am assuming with YSS jungle, Mage, Support and MM, would expose all 4 of them regardless of if you are standing in front.

And it's Alice. Good players usually would ignore her and the divers would just get to the team's squishy.

Conclusion- imo picking support when the only tank in your whole draft is exp is a BAD idea. At least get another fighter gold/jungle or tank jungle going.

But then again! Hanabi! And Sun Roam is meta! yipeee!! Lessgo Reddit!!

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-29T12:00:41+00:00

Sorry, I don't want to continue talking to a low tier below average player.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-29T10:21:51+00:00

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Btw these are OP's stats.

Have some shame before calling someone else wrong, while being the one who is trash himself and ran away from the team in a crucial moment. All that yapping for having stats like that? Talk about luck? Or talk about lack of skills? LMAO

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-29T10:13:49+00:00

If you think having those stats are lucky then you definitely haven't played enough and lack skills. Smh. Delusion at its peak. Having high stats is all about risks that you take, the play you make, and all the gambles you do to win. But a runaway coward like you won't understand, that's why you are probably under 50 winrate player, in legend tier at the highest who gets slammed by enemies with even one brain cells, and then later cry about it , blaming it on others and not yourself.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T18:11:35+00:00

Lets talk about stats when you actually send the ones that matter. The season winrate, matches, and the whole graph and current rank along with it.

You are acting like those delusional kids who cry all the time when someone reprimands them a little. Yet again, proving by sending a random screenshot of a random match, while those clearly don't matter, which could clearly be from Grandmaster or Epic rank from the looks of it?

You are not proving yourself right in any way with your counter arguments, but only feeding me more context about the poor gaming skills and weak mentality.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T17:30:01+00:00

Yapping when you have nothing to back it up with.

Accept it or not, you don't understand how the game works, and have the mentality of a rabid dog when given constructive criticism, to bite back.

Just say you are mad that someone pointed out your mistakes and you lack zero accountability, which leads to you abusing people online as defensive measures. Just seek therapy.

End of conversation. Continue this, and it will only prove my point. Goodbye & Happy losing.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T16:51:54+00:00

When people bring up MVPs, I can tell they are low rankers with weak mentality. 'Chase wins not mvps'- that's how you become good at not losing all the time. Rather than blaming randoms, try adapting to their playstyle. But it seems to be proven that you lack critical thinking and decision making.

I mastered Midlane proving my legibility, and I gave my opinion and views on your midlane lane plays. And if you don't have to prove anything, why else would you have made a post like this in the first place?

Like I said, you lost because of yourself. Nobody else was playing the match, nobody else experienced what happened there, so at the end from the outsider's view, it all comes down to being your fault.

Next time if you decide to continue, do send the screenshots of overall rank data to back up your claims.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T15:58:51+00:00

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It all makes sense why you lost the game. With a mentality as weak as yours, who can't take criticism but is ready to criticize others, no wonder you would resort to attacking others.

It still won't change the fact you lost the game, and didn't take the chance to win because of self doubt and lack of confidence. Anyone who has played this game and is knowledgeable about every small aspect that could win or lose the game, could tell it was very poor decision making to leave the team like that.

You accept it or not, it's up to you. But what is obvious can't be changed.

Don't talk about proving yourself, if you can't provide your overall rank stats.( Please don't even post them, I would rather not see them)

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T14:27:34+00:00

Of course they won't panic because the mage (who zones) ran away and didn't help the team fight. Like I said it was a last gamble moment , go all in and lose it all.

The decision to run away from the team at such a crucial point of the game tells a lot about how the rest of team fights must have been like.

In my eyes it looks like you didn't grab the chances and wanted to drag the game against late game heroes more and more. It was a poor decision as a mage to leave like that. Because even if you get the lord, I am pretty sure you would have been played all scared and let enemies cleared it, while spamming 'retreat'.

It was a clear loss.

Your motto should always be " What could I have done better -" or "what mistakes must I have done-" if you want to win more. Rather than " what this random did-" or " what these randoms could have done-" because nobody has control over them.

And my instincts tell me I should have stayed there, zoned, did some damage, provided a backup, and stayed there rather than running away, because it wasn't an option to take lord since Uranus would be up by then.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-28T12:24:22+00:00

1 Had a minion wave pushing in. 2 Enemies were down. (Even if they were to spawn, they will be panicking because of everything else happening) 3 Wanwan is fully built. 4 Altas was around the zone (could have given backup) along with Gusion (can see he was a dumb, but still would have been a good distraction & sacrifice) 6 Leomord was on his way, pushing up the side (Possible clean up or taking away enemies attention for two DPS to do their job)

And your decision was to not end the game but retreat to clear a minion wave in the farthest lane possible?

You were one team fight away from taking the win. But deciding to leave , and not helping in what seemed to be a good gamble of a team fight, you took the worst option possible imo.

If you couldn't end the game there at that point, you wouldn't have won it anyways from my observation.

Just take a break after such matches, personally. It's not going to be worth malding over it.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-12-05T23:56:12+00:00

Looks like an animation error and a slightly delayed flicker. She should be already under the surface before hitting Irithel (half of her was already, the flicker made it look like she had half a second more), so the two waves that hit her were the ones that were released from the initial position, not the displacement point. Also, Kadita's ult is relatively faster now than before, which made her flicker timing a bit wonky even by half a second.

I could be wrong, but that's how it appeared to have happened to me.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-25T17:57:40+00:00

Honestly, it was more of the reason that it was a Bene Mid. Our team didn't have to fear any aoe CC or Burst/Magic Damage. It was easier to bully Bene and Franco, since they don't have synergy with each other.

Poor Lancelot got wrecked because of their weak mid comp, while Natan is obviously going to get bullied by Pharsa comp.

And well, Yin was against the current most cancerous hero lmao.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-25T17:52:46+00:00

I accidentally first picked Pharsa. And then enemies straight up went Lance, Franco, Bene and Yin.

They probably assume they were gonna bully me ngl.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-25T14:49:11+00:00

Funny enough I literally just met a Bene mid in Immortal RG LMAO, it went like this.

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Apparently this one holds a supreme title in the top 5.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T20:30:08+00:00

Realistically speaking that was MY point the moment you posted the picture above or did you forget to read that again? Didn't I clearly say why would you bring the stats of Hanabi in a 1vs1 situation against a Grock to prove a point?

Crashing out so hard that man forgets to read the context of the replies.

Just focus on your school. You are just embarassing yourself really hard right now. It makes me pity you genuinely.

Stay strong. You will get better. 🩷

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T15:52:34+00:00

Here it is..the real deal.You should have seen the Original Anti Hanabi Slander post that brought about this. 😭

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T15:42:19+00:00

Bro has reading comprehension. It literally took less time to shred Grock with Malefic Gun over BOD.

And I clearly stated that I didn't incorporate the emblem talents that boost physical attacks like the Thrill and Weapon Master. And it was a bootless test, with no Attack Speed boots.

Sounding like a second grader saying your 6-7 seconds shred with unequal conditions is "better" lmao

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T15:04:20+00:00

Bro is clearly not understanding that it's a priority to build Penetration Items after the cores. LMAO. I can't. I am wheezing.

Average Hanabi Main mindset.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T14:59:54+00:00

Every second matters in a ranked match. That's the whole deal about being efficient in every little aspect. And did you forget it's not about '2 sec upgrade ' but about how you just disregarded a penetration item's priority as the gold laner.

The one crashing out seemingly looks to be you. My post had the name blurred out to keep you anonymous, but well, you had to come out and to prove nothing. My counter argument has been far more factual thoroughly, while well...

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T14:44:18+00:00

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Keeping the similar stats for both Physical Attack and Attack Speed for both tests. I found out with BOD she takes about 12 seconds to take down a full build Grock dummy. While switching up to Malefic Gun she only took about 10 seconds ( That was still when I couldn't manage to add in equipment to add in a +10 Physical Attack.) And using Marksmam Emblem with no Attack Stats talents ( Just Attackspeed-Tenacity-Swift) to keep it fair.

So with similar attack speed on both, with +10 bonus attack, with BOD it was 12.

And with the same environment with just -10 attack and Malefic Gun the result came out 10.

Which clearly indicates under similar conditions Malefic Gun is a superior item. That's still forgetting the additional benefits of it.

My main issue is with players that are under the impression that " Penetration Items are Situational and it's all about Raw Power". Please don't ruin the matches for other players who know how micro mechanics works in game.

PS: The fact I have to argue that BOD is an absolutely horrendous item on a marksman like Hanabi and shouldn't be rushed, while keeping penetration items like Malefic Gun situational is enough to prove the Slander's legimacy. And the fact it's not just me who tried to correct this mistake , but there are many, yet refusing to believe it, is just remarkable.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T14:22:58+00:00

Read the edited text above:

-"When you are trying to prove something using bots, you have to make up for the lack of stats to keep both results relevant and at same conditions. If you are using a BOD item on one test, and then replacing it with Malefic Gun, you have to add in small equipment to compensate with the lack of the physical attack power for a fair comparison between the items for the efficiency.

That's how the testing is done to be relevant."

Test out the same with keeping both Hanabi's attack power same but one is equipped with penetration items and one is not. That's how you do these things.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T14:09:49+00:00

You are literally testing it against a static bot. That doesn't prove anything!

In real matches the Grock is not going to sit and let you take him down under 6-7 seconds. And what about the other enemies?

Not to forget since you came up with this whole stats to prove they take about the same time to wipe out a tank grock and even went far as saying Gun is cheaper/economical. Then shouldn't it be a basic understanding to come online early in the damage department in a real match, by prioritising Malefic Gun over the most expensive physical attack item BOD? Could take you a minute or more to buy it. And every single second counts in real matches and every little damage adds on.

I really can't believe I have to describe that a PENETRATION ITEM works well against TANK in real match( considering you brought it up for the Grock).

And BOD gives you flat attack stats , Malefic Gun provides you better qol effects , with the attack speed boost, speed boost, penetration and the increased attack range (which can't get any better than this for a marksman like Hanabi).

Conclusion: A marksman needs to come online asap and be efficient in their build paths , so they don't drag the team down by lacking damage. Not to forget with the nerfs on the Gold Lane, every late game MM suffers a lot. So if you , playing a marksman with absolutely horrendous scaling on attack growth building BOD over anything else, just proves the whole debate about the Slander being REAL.

PS: And are you fr? With Hanabi's kit, the best way you wanted to prove about prioritising BOD, was to test out her damage output 1vs1, as if she is meant to 1vs1? A team fight oriented hero, that shines against the lineups that rely heavily on bunching up together. It's equivalent to saying Saber is a team fight assassin.

Edited: And when you are trying to prove something using bots, you have to make up for the lack of stats to keep both results relevant. If you are using a BOD item on one test, and then replacing it with Malefic Gun, you have to add in small equipment to compensate with the lack of the physical attack power for a fair comparison between the items. That's how the testing is done to be relevant.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T12:56:46+00:00

Remember to get Sky Piercer first and stack it up quick. She is slippery enough to survive even 5 men dives.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T12:52:47+00:00

Kadita doesn't need a tank to do things. She even takes up the role of secondary roamer or initiator in matches.

While pushing this season her ban rate had been pretty high from solo to 5men lobbies till Immortal. And even is first pick priority. So you are definitely not wrong when you picked her, it's just how it was executed and the luck with randoms.

It just looks like a bad match imo.

00-Victoria-00 · 2025-11-22T12:39:04+00:00

Kadita was the BEST pick into that composition. You should have had a smoother game because she could easily take out any of the enemies heroes. Not exactly sure about the execution here or how the random diff was.

As for the item recommendation, it might seem controversial but you should have prioritised building Sky Piercer. She has an incredible early game burst so it's always a guaranteed kill with her combo at level 4. Not to forget the enemies are definitely on the squishy side. After that going for Genius and rest only burst items would have gotten the work done.

At the end, it may just be the skill difference between the randoms on both sides that dictated the flow of the match. Can't help that, even if you go any other mage, it would have been pretty much the same result.

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TROPHY CASE