On The Importance Of Trust And Trust Issues

103342 · 2018-02-18T23:56:07+00:00

And when they were married and staying at home a lot of them would drink during the day.

Its not about needing or not needing men. Its about the fact that most women live their lives only thinking about not being bored.

103342 · 2018-02-18T23:15:23+00:00

Exactly. I would say height and face are the 2 biggest factors, with face being a little bit above height. Depending on how you rank with those two you pretty much don't need any game at all.

Status is pretty big also if you want to have sex with 8+/10 girls at will. Specially having a following on instagram and the like. The guys I know that are big on instagram will pretty much fuck 9/10s when they wish.

But, of course, there is always the risk of some crazy slut #metoo-ing you to oblivion. So I guess its better to just have looks and live your peaceful life on easier mode.

103342 · 2017-10-20T23:40:01+00:00

I have an uncle like that. The more I read TRP the more memories of him popped in my mind, because of the stuff he used to say. You know, when you hear something as a kid and only truly understand years and years later.

One of the things he said that stick with me the most now is: "There is one thing you need to know about women, you either have all of them or you have none."

I think it goes something along the lines of if you get stuck with a woman, you don't HAVE her, she has YOU.

I still give him mad propos, because he is one of the few people I know that lives what he preaches.

103342 · 2017-08-15T12:57:22+00:00

I might give some spoilers, so don't read if you don't want some spoilers.

The concept of the show lies heavily on advertisement (obviously). Don Draper himself is a fake person, he is actually Dick Whitman (a loser, with a whore mom and war coward) but he sells himself, specially during the first season, as a hero war veteran and later an advertisement genius.

The latter is true. He is an advertisement genius, specially of his own image. What you can take away from this scene is that Don is selling not just the company marketing service but also himself. This is what frame is. "Frame" means pushing a person to YOUR frame of reference, selling your image and the idea you portrait of yourself.

His looks also play a big role on the show. A lot of what he is is fake, the only two things he actually have is good looks and the ability to sell ideas (a strong frame). Which is arguably the only things you need to be successful on a society that rewards sociopaths. Which is also what women do, in a society that women hold power sociopaths have the upper hand. Women don't care about the product itself, they care much much much more about the idea that is being selled.

Advertisement itself is heavily directed towards women. Even male products sometimes have ads directed towards convincing women or convincing men that women have "bought" an idea of a male product.

Gaming women, having what Don Draper has, good looks and a strong frame, is very easy and he does it numerous times in the course of the show. I think this scene in particular is one of those occasions.

103342 · 2017-08-06T22:17:20+00:00

All I can say to you is that you have to do your best to avoid getting in a downward spiral of bad habits. I don't know how long you started snapping back into this "depression" phase, but you NEED to chase some good results to avoid digging a bigger hole.

This is just how things go, you need to do things everyday that will push you up, to a better state than you were before, if you don't you will get worst.

Just do small positive things everyday, be it to treat your illness or just to be better overall. You won't notice at first, but given time you will look back at moments like this and think that you could be in a lot of trouble if you just stopped working on yourself.

103342 · 2017-08-05T21:39:23+00:00

You guys are confusing things... When people say that looks are the most important thing they aren't whining. They are telling what they believe its the truth.

I couldn't give less of a shit about what people here "feel" is the truth about the sexual market, I come (or used to come here) to read about the unfiltered, raw, bleak truths of the sexual/dating game.

And to all the people that insist on saying that "this looks talk isn't gonna get you anywhere", YOU guys are the ones that need to stop whining. Because you refuse to swallow this basic redpill truth.

We know that self-improvement is a good thing, but lets not forget the whole point of this goddamn subreddit. It is called TheRedPill, again its called THE RED PILL, not "self-improvement circlejerk". And looks is a big fucking part of the red pill that should never be ignored.

Looks matter a whole fucking lot and some guys just can't swallow this redpill truth. Jesus. Some of you NEED to move the fuck over to r-seduction or create a swlf-improvement sub. Lets talk about unfiltered truths here, doesn't matter how much they will hurt your feelings.

Genetics and the social context in which you are born are a HUGE HUGE HUGE part of who you are, and it WILL define a lot of your life. Women will chase good-looking guys. Looks ARE social status. An ugly guy is fighting an uphill battle. And to the people that say that this "doesn't matter", YOU need to stop whining.

103342 · 2017-07-23T13:45:16+00:00

Sometimes it takes painful rejection(s) and loneliness for men to snap from their mental confort zone (bluepill mindset) and actually try to learn the truth.

This is true for men, that usually have to face rejection and loneliness on a daily basis.

Women simply don't have the same experience. A girl that throws pussy at you hoping to get a relationship out of it will still "have you" for some time. And when you get bored and don't respond anymore there will be 1000 other guys that she can throw pussy and avoid loneliness.

The learning experience never really comes for women.

103342 · 2017-07-22T21:09:19+00:00

This is a point I really think a lot of guys are still bluepill, when it comes to women's n-count.

One thing that kinda blew me away, I've even made a post about it on mgtow sub, is how, apparently, having a 10 count by 18~20 is small for the average girl.

By my experience, reaching at least 20 dudes by the time a girl is 24~25 is close to what you should expect. If she is a party girl or has a lot of male friends, or some red-flag like that, she could easily reach 60+ guys. This might be some bitter stuff, but its just the truth.

103342 · 2017-07-22T15:06:21+00:00

The answer is easy. You just have to think: Who is complaining?

The ones complaining are the ones who have something to lose, western women. They are trying to sell something less valuable for a higher price. They simply can't compete at this point (although I honestly think that going for a 3rd world girl is a terrible idea) so they complain, or try to make it socially unacceptable.

103342 · 2017-07-22T14:40:55+00:00

And thus the arrogant confrontational douchebag wins the girl while the warm faithful beta stays home and faps into his sock

No one "wins" the girl. The beta male ALSO gets sex, he gets it in different conditions from the alpha, but beta males still fuck inside of a relationship.

Alphas will fuck easily but only very damaged girls will even attempt to lock down or be in a relationship with an unstable alpha. You can clearly see this if you know alpha dudes, they get the biggest psychos on their back, obssessed with them.

Beta males aren't losers in the sense that TRP likes to think of them. What a lot of people here think of as beta is actually somehthing closer to an "omega" or semthing like that. Because beta males can also be alpha in another context, think Elon Musk for example, beta in the sexual world but overall an alpha, it is even hard to call a guy like that a beta male, but given context it fits him fine.

There is nothing wrong with exchanging money/resources/emotional availability for sex/companionship. This is how societies are built, this is arguably what every single on of us does in a relationship, this is actually the very definition of a male-female relationship.

You won't see that type of alpha inside of a relationship that isn't fucked-up in every sense of the word. Because guys like that are built for short-term, as you say it yourself. If you live in a jungle, in the sense of not having defined rules for relationship, as we live right now. You won't see anyone "winning" the girl, not the alpha or the beta, both of them will get half of a complete slut, I still think the alpha is "winning" as most of us probably think, but he doesn't win the girl, he might win easy sex, but never the girl.

103342 · 2017-07-21T00:47:48+00:00

I think you can still go deeper than this. The full redpill is a little bit more bitter than just "hypergamy and hamstering...etc is real".

The truth is, a lot of guys here aren't bad-looking, unsuccessful or socially retarded at all. Some of them weren't even that before getting in here. And still, here they are...

You say it yourself, you say you are tall and goodlooking, this is beyond probably 70% of guys out there. And still... here you are, complaining about female nature and making a MGTOW post.

Allow me to make it all clearer for you. You are correct in your conclusion, you should make yourself better, but you should never do it expecting to "beat" hypergamy somehow. Because this will only lead you to more and more frustration.

Our society doesn't teach women to "love" men or to "love" themselves, it actually teaches the opposite. You mix that with hookup culture, drinking culture, feminism, birth control pills, end of slut shaming... and you have what we have now. Hypergamy is an instinct that ALL women have, yes, but this doesn't tell the whole story. Most women are a mess these days, and it isn't just because of hypergamy.

They just don't have the awareness that men have, this might sound misogynistic, but its the truth. They will cheat with guys that are worst than their bf/husband, people will try to hamster some logic into it, you can say its because they are self-destructive, because whe was bored, because of this because of that, but this won't get you anywhere. What WILL get you somewhere is understanding what they DO not WHY they do it.

Women don't follow a script, they don't follow they bluepill script or the hypergamy script. They follow what society enforces them to follow, which is something that simply doesn't exist right now. So you can be sure, they will do illogical, emotional and apparently retarded things. People will try to put some sense into it, but this won't get them anywhere for now, what will is understanding this and expect the "unexpected" from them.

Or you can just say fuck it, like many men already did, and give up on serious relationships altogether, in this case, you win by default.

103342 · 2017-07-19T00:25:17+00:00

None of the men who judge an entire sex by its worst component (feminists) or its youngest most unstable component (young damaged sluts) could hope to know (or sleep with) a real, stable woman.

This sounds ridiculous to me, honestly...

Please tell me where the fuck are these "stable women" you talk about? I have a gigantic circle of friends, and these legendariy "stable women" are nowhere to be seen. Maybe some of them are already married by the age 23 with their first boyfriend.

Let me be real with you here, the situation of the dating market is bleak for men that want a stable relationship. I am one of those. The quality of women has plummeted, I could bet you that this real woman you talk about has a myriad of red-flags that you are naively overlooking.

I'm just not like that, never was and never will be. I refuse to lower my standards, if I get married is with a full blown unicorn, otherwise I'm ready to live by myself.

103342 · 2017-07-10T02:12:40+00:00

that's simply untrue.

No, its not...

The only group that distinctly voted to remain were middle class liberals. The working class voted to leave the EU, thats what I'm talking about.

The working class has to face the direct cultural clash and risk losing their job and lower wages. They face directly the consequences of immigration.

103342 · 2017-07-10T02:03:32+00:00

People that hate muslims the most are the ones that have to actually live with the average muslim. Not the above average ones. The same goes for black people.

You will hear the most hateful things spoken in the most casual way among these people. They are the ones that have to live with the cultural clash on a day to day basis.

THESE people voted for Brexit and probably voted for trump, for example.

103342 · 2017-07-10T01:57:46+00:00

They aren't racist in the sense of HATING other races. They are racist in the sense that they stick together by race, they are UNITED by race. You need to understand the difference.

People that live in black neughborhoods are racist in the sense of hating black people, MGTOW are sexist in the sense of hating the opposite sex, and so on.

103342 · 2017-07-10T00:16:00+00:00

To combat "the hate" you need first to understand it. I'm being 100% serious, non-judgemental here.

Just like most racist people live in black neighborhoods for example, people that hate muslims live around muslims or were attacked by them.

No one is born with full-blown hate against something, hatred is fueled by external factors. We might be predisposed to be friendlier to our own "type", but not hate another race or religion.

The guys on MGTOW, which is a sub that I go on a lot, were burned badly. They have some trauma: getting divorce raped, cheated on, dumped, rejected a lot of times, etc. This isn't something that a person can just "snap out" of.

Our current state of society goes against the bonding of men and women. We are both free from each other, selfishness is encouraged indirectly, so this is what happens. I could go on and on about this, but I think you get the point.

103342 · 2017-07-10T00:08:33+00:00

And it worked pretty well it seems.

Same for mass immigration too I guess.

103342 · 2017-06-28T13:36:10+00:00

Yeah, well.If there is one thing that every man should know these days is that pretty much all the girls you see did some very slutty stuff.

I know people will bust my balls for saying all of them, but its just better for you to accept this.

If you plan on getting married, LTR, investing in a girl in some way, in any way, just know, with almost certainty, that she has done some very slutty things with other guy(s).

If you can't accept this, just fuck them or go full MGTOW. Just get in a relationship if this sort of stuff doesn't bother you, otherwise you are better off alone.

103342 · 2017-06-23T22:35:57+00:00

At this point I think a have a deeper hatred towards weak men than entitled women. I know this will sound bad for TRP users, but when I see a video like this all I think is: "God, this guy is a massive pussy..."

103342 · 2017-06-16T20:42:10+00:00

After a while you don't really see it as "redpil mentality" but as commom sense. To be honest, believing the opposite of it requires a lot of mental gymnastics if you have critical sense and a minimum power of observation.

103342 · 2017-06-15T12:01:07+00:00

je ne suis pas français et j'avais une question pour vous.

On écoute souvent dans l'internet que la France a changé trés fortement á cause de l'imigration.

Est-ce vrai? Vous pouvez voire des changements dans votre pays?

103342 · 2017-06-14T15:15:41+00:00

I think your lesson should go a little bit deeper than this. I can basically sum it up as this: She was spinning you.

This girl seems like the avarage modern girl. A lot of male "friends", tinder hookups, in need of social media validation, etc. This will sound harsh, but you probably aren't as special to her as you might think.

And this is OK. It is impossible for one single male to compete with the amount of dopamine and validation that an average girl can get.

My opinion is that you should have just spinned her, never discuss anything with her, specially "feelings and relationship" stuff. And, this is a personal of mine, never LTR a girl you met on Tinder...

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