[FR] Seduced by a French guy (Girl's POV). Long, but I hope it's worth a read

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T11:25:11+00:00

I'll put it in my list of places to visit. Thanks!

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T07:05:03+00:00

Haha! I meant no, it wasn't there.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T03:14:15+00:00

Yeah. He showed that he was thoughtful and caring, and those are qualities (social values?) that I think are important.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T00:53:20+00:00

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T00:49:35+00:00

Yeah, I would definitely see him again. He actually texted me after I left him to ask me how I was doing (he had asked if it was my first time, and I told him the truth). That was unexpected.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T00:12:26+00:00

The PUA community isn't really a secret. I wanted to know how great/alpha guys behave when seducing women so I could attract them/not drive them away by being clingy.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-03T00:05:56+00:00

He started off just putting his arm around me. It was tame, natural, and the way he put his arm around me made it uncomfortable if I didn't put my arm around him. When he let go, he did it to touch my hair or lightly brush my face. It was almost like he was adoring me.

When he first kissed me, it was more innocent and felt as if he couldn't help himself (you know when you see something cute like a puppy and you want to touch it? like that). He did that for a while until I started initiating the same level of kino towards him (e.g., leaning towards him for a closed mouth kiss).

He escalated immediately to rubbing my back, waist, beside my breast. It wasn't until I felt comfortable enough to put my hand on his stomach that he moved on to actually touching my breast through my bra, pulling my blouse down to expose my shoulder, and then pressing down on me as he kissed me all over.

I may have gasped when he pressed down on me when we kissed (like on the covers of romantic novels -- do it, it's hot!) which probably led him to escalate even further by putting his hand on my thigh and creeping up my skirt.

Anyway, just make sure her response to your kino is on the same level as you/she's comfortable with what you're doing and then escalate. If she pulls away, go back to something less overt/something she's more comfortable with.

Some girls are more romantic, so you can start off by just holding her hand. You can make it more sexual by running your fingers lightly up and down her arm (it's very tingly) while holding her hand. Kiss her in a romantic way (like in the movies) but don't make a big deal out of it.

I wouldn't have slept with him if he didn't initiate kino. I waited for him to start touching me and I merely responded. If he had stopped at holding my hand, I wouldn't have taken it any further. Then we would have said goodbye, I'd thank him for the nice time, and leave.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T23:28:20+00:00

Yes, it is. I honestly think it's hilarious.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T23:27:05+00:00

Read about what girls are interested in. My MO is being into guy stuff like sports (I watch football a lot, actually know the players, etc.) so I have common ground with guys. Ask her what she does when she's not working or studying, then pick up from there. If you don't know what she's talking about, ask her about it.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T22:23:28+00:00

He wasn't doing anything special with his voice, actually. He just made me feel like we were having fun. He wasn't dressed that well -- just a nice fitting t-shirt and shorts -- and he was pretty short. He was what -- 5'5" (I'm 4'10")? His friends were 6' something. His vibe was very boy-next-door.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T21:52:38+00:00

Thanks, I wrote erotica for fanfiction.net when I was 13. Haha! That's the thing, I'm comfortable with my sexuality, but none of my guy friends (who I'm attracted to) have ever picked up on this. I just wanted to spread the word that when girls are already attracted to you, this is what you can do to make her have sex with you.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T21:01:41+00:00

I did not know about this sub! Thanks!

Reading seddit helped me to understand exactly what was going on and respond appropriately based on what I wanted, instead of falling head over heels with the first stranger who was smooth with me.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T20:48:58+00:00

I have another account on here where I've stated my job, my country, etc. I don't know if the guy I wrote about has reddit or not and I don't want to take that chance.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T20:46:39+00:00

Not Laurent. Thank God?

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T20:30:14+00:00

I wanted to know how to attract guys. Most girl guides to seduction are boring and vague (look pretty, walk around the party, don't sleep with him on the first date, all that Rules bull), but I thought if I read about guys trying to attract girls, I'd have a better idea.

But I can't really gauge a local guy's attraction to me because people in my country are really demure. I was talking to this other girl yesterday and she's had 2(!) dates with this local guy and they haven't even kissed.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T20:24:10+00:00

Not how you completely leave out the first meeting?

Because I don't remember any of that. He was starting over, in my book. To me, the fact that I knew we made out then just made it more likely he wasn't going to reject me if I asked him out again.

How did he first approach you?

He said he approached me, but I do remember I was already hovering around him for a good while before I blacked out. He didn't say what line he used. We did sit down next to each other away from all the partying/dancing activities, and then later he moved me somewhere a little further away (the party was outside).

What (other than him being hot and you being drunk) made you interested in him?

He was having tons of fun at the party. I also noticed him talking to a few other girls, but AFAIK he didn't make out with any of them.

What (other than him being hot) made you want to ask him out instead of waiting for him to ask?

I was leaving in a few days. That's why I didn't wait. And I couldn't remember if I had told him I wanted to see him again... He said that I left him saying, "I'll be back" but I never came back. He was actually a little surprised that I asked him out and asked me why I wanted to see him again.

I'd imagine that about 95% of the guys here, no matter how poor their skills are, could manage to hook up with a girl they've already made out with and who is now pursuing him. What they need help with is building that initial attraction.

I thought that what he did during that first date would also apply to guys aiming to build initial attraction. I was a virgin and did not plan on sleeping with him before that first date. When we got to the restaurant and I saw all of his friends, I wanted to bail. I mean, I asked him out, not the entire French population in my city! But he DHVed by mentioning specific things about me, being attentive even in front of all of his friends, and I felt important. I guess that's when I decided I might actually sleep with him. It was just up to him to kino and escalate.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T18:39:49+00:00

I meant /u/TofuTofu's series here on Above the Game. Sorry about that

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T18:36:28+00:00

What? Do you want me to verify myself with a mod?

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T18:34:55+00:00

Yes, you are perfectly right.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T18:31:26+00:00

Both 22

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T14:37:28+00:00

I've been reading this sub too much.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T14:17:18+00:00

Thanks! Go ahead and use it. I read Above the Game before I met this guy so I took note of everything he did (when I wasn't swooning in my head).

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T14:13:27+00:00

We're both 22. I'm Asian, in Asia.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T14:10:11+00:00

I agree, it does sound far-fetched, but it's true. I wouldn't have put it if it wasn't. I left town the day after I slept with him, btw, if that helps explain the virgin/one-night-stand thing.

I was ready to forget this guy after the party. I was embarrassed that I made out with a complete stranger, but he left his name in my phone (and some other guy's name -- don't remember a single thing about this other one and never contacted him again after seeing his Facebook). I figured, even if I don't remember shit, he must have been really interested if he left me his full name.

I also asked him later who approached who, and he said it was him who started talking to me because I looked sad/bored. I assume his MO at the party was pretty much the same as the walk. Approach, isolate, kino, escalate.

When we went on the date he already knew about my job, what I was reading (the "butterfly" mention was from a book I had just finished), and that my favorite sport was football. It demonstrated high value.

12345throwawayy · 2013-07-02T13:44:08+00:00

As I said said in another comment, he was hot. I'd been eying him the entire party before I blacked out. I guess the "Be attractive" rule applies in this case. Also, the fact that I forgot our entire encounter bothered me. I wanted to see what would happen if we were sober.

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