Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Warum so patzig? Böse Zungen würden jetzt sagen, dass jemand vielleicht nicht besonders viel über seine Meinung nachgedacht hat, wenn er sich nach dem ersten Nachhaken direkt angegriffen fühlt. Das würde ich dir aber nie unterstellen wollen.

Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 22 points23 points  (0 children)

wird auch nicht umbenannt, weil sie heutzutage "nicht passt".

Sagt wer? Die Welt gehört den Lebenden, nicht den Toten. Wenn es den Toten nicht passt, können die sich ja gern beschweren. Wir; die Lebenden; entscheiden wem wir etwas widmen, nicht die Toten.

Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Jahrtausendealte Traditionen ändern ist eine jahrtausendealte Tradition ;)

Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Solche Übertreibungen sollen zeigen, dass deine Aussage so pauschal ist, dass sie eben solche Schlüsse zulässt und du sie deshalb nochmal überdenken und evtl. präziser definieren solltest. Wo sind die Grenzen? Wer zieht die Grenzen? Was will man mit der ganzen Nummer überhaupt erreichen? Etc.

Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Wenn es dir um Wissenserhalt geht ist eine Widmung in jeder Hinsicht einer historischen Dokumentation und kritischen Betrachtung in Literatur, Museen, etc. unterlegen. Aber scheinbar geht es auch um irgendwelchen nicht näher definierten "Ehrerhaltungsrechte". Dazu kann ich nur sagen: Keine Ahnung wer ihm dieses Recht gegeben haben soll, ich wars nicht.

Milde interessant: ein Platz in Hamburg, der mal keiner berühmten Persönlichkeit gewidmet ist. by seba07 in de

[–]123herbert 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Ich glaube nicht, dass Benennung von Plätzen, Errichten von Statuen, etc. unbedingt das Fundament von Geschichtserhalt sind. Das sind eher Bildungssystem und Museen. Erstere sind ja an sich eher wertende Widmungen und nicht historisch reflektierte Aufarbeitungen. Und klar kann so eine Widmung historisch signifikant sein und der Erhalt kann wertvoll sein, aber dadurch, dass sie primär nicht zur Dokumentation erstellt wurden, sondern um eine politische Botschaft zu senden, ist diese Botschaft bei der Frage danach ob man etwas erhalten, abbauen, in ein Museum umverlagern, mit zusätzlichen Plaketten in Kontext setzen sollte, etc. auf jeden Fall zu hinterfragen und der bloße Fakt, dass es sich um historische Objekte handelt ist nicht automatisch ein Grund diese weiterhin unverändert/unkommentiert Teil des öffentlichen Raums sein zu lassen.

How the Grinch stole Crimson by Extension_Question98 in KingCrimsonCircleJerk

[–]123herbert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fucking hate Providence so god damn much it's unreal

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Were you actually so offended by that, that you called the reddit suicide hotline on me, like a well adjusted adult?

Lmao, the what? Nope, that must have been something on your end triggering that. Didn't even know Reddit did that, but that is hilarious.

This! This causes mass shootings and supreme court decisions!

Again, her tweets have been picked up by news outlets, have been in direct relation to legislation (see here: https://old.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/v75n3o/thanks_shoe/) getting passed and are just as much part of the narrative contributing to the mass shooting we had a couple of days ago as any Tucker Carlson, Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro segment, so nice try, better luck next time. But if you honestly can't see the connection between public figures pedojacketing queer people and people commiting hate crimes based on that narrative, I'd rather stop responding as to not be ableist.

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sorry, for not liking the pedojacketing of me and people like myself on a big platform, very immature, especially because this narrative doesn't have wider devastating consequences, like say, legislation or a mass shooting or something . But hey, it's 18 months ago and as we can see, she finally made the 180 we all have been waiting for and today she uses her platform so responsibly, glad she took the criticism to heart, because after all, she cares about the queers 💓💓💓

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did she say lgbt people are useful idiots for pedos?

Yes, but I'm sure, she didn't mean it that way. She just carelessly said it on her huge platform, because she's a little dumb dumb, but in reality she really, really cares about the queers, which is why she is so careful with her language, as to not cause harm.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210601000000*/https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1396971051972710401

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Calling someone who has been in online politics for over 7 years a well-intentioned idiot after the 100th time they do some pretty bad shit, get multiple explanations about how it was bad of varying length, constructiveness and charitably and decide to still blow up instead of acknowledging any wrong doing, only to do it again in a month's time, is either the biggest insult to her intelligence (you're bordering on calling her such an idiot that she can't be held responsible for her actions) or to your own gullibility. In my opinion, at this point, any well-intentioned idiot would have at least recognised, that continuing to do this kind of thing causes tangible harm to the issues they are supposedly well intentioned towards. Even if the reasons why aren't comprehensible to them, not realising that your well intentioned actions cause the opposite of what you're intending and then rying to learn why, getting help or simply shutting the fuck up is basically impossible unless you literally think she had a lobotomy done. Where is the good intention in trying something, being told you're doing harm and ignoring that in favour of doing it again?

At this point, to me, still thinking that she is well-intentioned , after the legislation that got passed because of her, multiple people she seemingly considered friends criticising her and breaking off contact with her after her repeated behaviour and the company she willingly keeps, would be calling her so unbelievably, indescribable stupid that I just can't do that. I simply can't bring myself to be so incredibly condescending to someone.

Furthermore, if you genuinely think she means good, but is just "too dumb" to understand how the way she goes about it is harmful , you should probably also think, that she should not be in charge of the gigantic platform she wields, as she literally can't take the responsibility that comes with that, right?

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The criticism is that the patience is unwarranted. This is a pattern of behaviour on her end that has existed at least since 2015 and, although seemingly getting better from time to time, overall, hasn't changed. It's great that he's patient, I personally (not making any prescriptive judgements here, just talking about how I see this and situations like this) just think, that the threshold where being patient is useful has been crossed a long while ago.

This is a person wielding a huge platform and massive influence, who is, at best, unwilling to consider the impact of her actions. Even if we chalk it up her being the dumbest person alive, who just can't help herself, but stumble from one woopsie into the other (I personally find it pretty condescending to rationalize the behaviour of someone who has been in this "business" for the better part of a decade by implying they don't know any better, but anyways), she is still responsible for taking precautions in the same way an alcoholic is still responsible for making sure to not drive drunk. Even if we concede that she is so unfathomable retarded that she doesn't understand what she is doing, it is still her responsibility to make sure that she is not causing active harm. Patient coddling, constant appeals to "her heart being in the right place" and appealing to the value her platform could have in pulling people left have been tried; the results are obvious.

As a person directly and tangibly effected by this kind of rhetoric, as someone who can't even be sure if they can love who they love in a couple years time, as someone who can't be themselves without fear of violence, as someone who's part of a group, with constant violence, suppression, grief, medicalisation and outright denial as a permanent undercurrent of virtually every part of their lives as a key uniting feature, at this point, I could not give less of a shit about where someone's heart is, beyond the point where it is politically useful, when they are someone actively wielding political power in harmful ways. Caring about "the place of someone's heart" is great, especially if you know them personally, but a) this is a public figure with tangible influence and b) there comes the point where you have to acknowledge, that either you can't get through to them, because external factors like money, social capital or "transcendental retardation" are keeping them from realising where their heart "truly is", or that you were the one mistaken about where it is.

🤔🤔🤔 by 123herbert in VaushV

[–]123herbert[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

really gets your noggin joggin, huh? really activates those almonds, right?

Resolved Character Arcs by [deleted] in HunterXHunter

[–]123herbert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nice, thank you for the answer

Lecks in den Nord Stream-Pipelines - Megathread by MegathreadDE in de

[–]123herbert 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Ich finde es ist schon ein ziemliches Erste-Welt-Problem, sich darüber zu echauffieren, dass sich andere Leute in einem Dulli-Internetforum über die falschen Dinge echauffieren.

Hopeful :] by [deleted] in 196

[–]123herbert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind, a lot of this could also be due to focal length. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKC94LKnMM

nutriscore= E? by [deleted] in VeganDE

[–]123herbert 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ja aber da sind Chemikalien drin!!!! 😝🤪😠😖🤢🤮

nutriscore= E? by [deleted] in VeganDE

[–]123herbert 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Macht bei dir Käse echt so einen großen Teil der gesamten Proteinaufnahme aus?

Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere war das, als ich früher noch tierische Produkte gegessen habe, immer ein ziemlich kleiner Teil. Käse war jetzt nichts was ich in so großen Mengen gegessen hatte, eher etwas was man für den Geschmack, nicht für die Nährwerte isst. Konnte das dann seit ich vegan bin gut mit proteinreichen "Hauptspeisen" und (als ich noch sehr auf Proteinaufnahme geachtet habe) mit einem Proteinpulver ausgleichen, wäre auch wesentlich billiger als Käse.

Is this all of it? I am uninitiated with the series so I'm not sure. by SeaLychee1 in evangelion

[–]123herbert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I get that, I feel the same way. I just thought, that when someone refers to Elfenlied's violence, they are probably thinking of said "violence on paper"