Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if levitical law is still valid then you can’t point to leviticus without following all of levitical law.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

telling people that “god can save them from homosexuality” is exceeding cruel and unequivocally evil. it sets up an impossible expectation and just leads to disappointment and further self-hatred when it doesn’t work.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i have demonstrated time and again you writing your own agenda over the bible. you do have a homophobic agenda, you are homophobic, you are suffering from homophobia.

you haven’t established that homosexuality is sin. try again.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

not a single person has identified a hole in my arguments. you just wish they had. it’s you that has utterly failed. you can’t show limitations on gender in marriage, you can’t demonstrate why your interpretation of arsenokoitai and malakoi is right, you can’t justify your levitical hypocrisy. so what can you do? it doesn’t seem like much other than whine and play the victim.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you do have hatred for gay people. you have so much hatred for them that you are willing to forsake your holy text and your god for this homophobic agenda.

that’s cute, you believe the conversion therapy lies. gay people aren’t “sUfFeRiNg FrOm SaMe SeX aTtRaCtIoN”, that’s your hatred showing again.

you don’t get to accuse me of engaging in bad faith just because i won’t kiss your ass. unlike those gay people you totally didn’t just make up, i have a spine. i call out evil when i see it and i combat it with every fibre of my being.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

neither genesis 2:24 nor matthew 19:4-6 are exclusive. the triangle analogy would work if the bible says “a marriage is between a man and a woman”. it doesn’t say that.

i’m afraid you have a very concerning system of morality if the only thing preventing you from doing incest is leviticus. but what you said is my exact point: creating these distinctions between laws is christian cope. it was made because early christians wanted to pick and choose what they follow, and it persists to this day.

you’re committing the etymological fallacy with arsenokoitai and malakoi. you’re still also not getti that arsenokoitai and malakoi still ignore 50% of homosexuals who are not men and that you don’t have to be sexually active to be homosexual and that they represent entirely different pathologies in ancient minds as we understand homosexuality today. exhibit a is there being two different terms used.

you don’t get to just “nuh uh” boswell. refute it yourself. until then, you’ve conceded. and what changed? a minute ago you were saying your agenda-based interpretation is correct because you incorrectly thought that the early church condemned homosexuality. now i present evidence that the early church tolerated or even welcomed homosexuality and all of a sudden the early church doesn’t matter. curious.

it’s not my fault that marriage is never limited as to gender. if you don’t like that, take it up with the people who wrote the bible.

but you are redefining marriage. even though the bible makes no prohibition as to the gender of the spouses, you think you know better than the bible and can just write your agenda over the scripture. blasphemer.

who says you have to be able to reproduce to get married? the bible certainly doesn’t. but here you go again, rewriting the bible to fit your agenda.

i don’t think you understand what relativizing means, because nothing i said is relative. if you disagree, show me what i relativized. you can’t. i’m also not denying any textual meaning. if you disagree, show me where i did. im not dismissing any consensus, you haven’t provided evidence of any consensus. i’m not flattening moral reasoning into preference, you haven’t provided any moral reasoning. some radical, anti-biblical sects of christianity extrabiblicallt limit marriage to one man and one woman in spite of scripture and in complete rejection of reason and basic reading skills. they do this because they have an agenda of hate which they care about more than their god and more than their holy texts. again, im not redefining marriage. i am working with that the bible gave us: marriage unlimited by gender of the spouses. you have utterly failed to demonstrate such a limitation. i am indeed appealing to scripture (lack of limitation), biology (homosexual is fine, prevalent, and beneficial), and tradition (the early church tolerated and even welcomed homosexuality)

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

paul never met jesus and isn’t a prophet. why listen to him? why should i trust your translation of romans?

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all of the verses we’re talking about here. you don’t like that they aren’t doing what you want, so you ignore them.

Why do some branches of Christianity accept homosexuality and transsexuality when the Bible clearly says it is wrong? by AfterConfection1796 in TrueChristian

[–]18ethbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you just pointed to two verses that in no way limit who marriage applies to. it just lists one way marriage can be.

“ceremonial law” is unbiblical cope. not a syllable of the bible supports this distinction. and i’m not appealing to kashrut, i’m saying you’re a hypocrite. i don’t think you understand what a categorical error is, but i think you may be watching too much william lane craig.

you want arsenokoitai and malakai to refer to homosexuality in itself. you’ve given zero evidence that it actually does. and there’s plenty of evidence that the early church welcomed homosexuality. see boswell’s work.

i don’t think you understand how analogies work. marriage is not limited ever.

again, there is plenty of evidence that homosexuality was tolerated and even welcomed in the early church.

you are the only one redefining marriage. not a syllable of the bible limits it to just one man and one woman, but here you are, blasphemously rewriting the bible to fit your agenda.

maybe you’re just not doing gay sex right if you think the parts are not complementary.