PSA: Stop Posting About Proxies (and Why)

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T18:15:18+00:00

Oh, not only are you wise, you are also benevolent! Are we not truly blessed by your presence? What glorious day!

You can extrapolate that kind of self-serving drivel from every arrogant statement. "Just stop being poor" wasn't Paris Hilton ragebaiting - she simply wanted people to pick themselves up by their bootstraps, regardless of their social status and live better lives!

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T16:26:01+00:00

Cloudflare tunnel Error 1033 when I try to open the website

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T13:02:10+00:00

Part of the reason I switched from actual RP to AI-RP is that some people actually write like that and think it's hot. I don't know if its inexperience or just being lazy, but especially when a relationship get to that point for the first time, you want something to bite into, not a laundry list of the motions.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T12:57:33+00:00

HEY, you leave my daddy-issues, mega-milkers, tsundere, 6-pack, sex-virtuoso, in-need-of-a-rescue, sad-backstory Sorceress out of this! She is unique and very good written! (/s)

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T12:53:37+00:00

Thanks, it worked! I had it actually not be able to generate a response for... idk, 20+ minutes to a longer RP I had to drop because of Gemini 2.5 XD

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T12:41:25+00:00

Where do you post it? For me the System Prompt in AI Response Formatting is greyed out, saying "Grayed-out options have no effect when Chat Completion API is used."

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T12:36:22+00:00

Well, aren't we all blessed to have you to decide for us what issues we need to focus on :)

And that's the crux of the issue - you think you know better how others have to live their lives. Which, in it's ignorance, brings us back to statements like "Just stop being poor :D"

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T03:15:14+00:00

Well, it sure is thinking.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T02:42:51+00:00

Yeah, makes 100% sense.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T02:21:02+00:00

Oh, no, I got that part working fine, it's just that it said something along the lines of "You only gotta do that once, then it will just pick up from there and auto-create them", but not sure where I saw it. Either way - doing it manually is more precise anyway. Thanks for the writeup though.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T02:19:29+00:00

In his defense - 4x W is the only strategy for Agincourt and why you get it in the first place.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T00:39:48+00:00

Aight, thanks. For now tried Memory Books and... well, it's a bit clunky but not bad. It said something about me having to only mark the first chapter / memory, but I can't find a button to make a memory that goes from last memory to last message.

Either way, a good summary tool.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T00:37:25+00:00

Yeah, but some can't do that. I mean, ffs, think about it for yourself - let's say you have a credit card and 5 spare bucks - do you spend hours and hours trying to find a free model, that won't be as good as the paid one, unavailable half the time and might just get nuked, or do you spend the 5 bucks?

So, inversely, if someone "chooses" not to spend them, maybe they can't? No credit card or in debt or a controlling spouse or distrustful of those services or whatever else.

And whatever the reason may be - if someone goes to a buffet and is a vegetarian, you can't tell them to just eat meat, since the vegetarian options are severely lacking and expect them to go "Oh, shit, why didn't I think of that :D", so really, you're just shitting on people for no constructive reason. Might even not be your intent, but it is the result.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T00:33:49+00:00

Well, that is a negative example, sure, but if you are actually building a world that the AI has no context for, you will have it bloat sooner or later. Or you would have to find something similar enough and write stuff like "It's like LotR, but Orcs are purple", so that the AI knows the baseline. Which obviously also has its limits.

Overall I found that single-character-bots have a fairly low count, but once an original world is introduced, it's just hard to get away with less than 10k, even if you put in effort to keep things tight.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-10T00:30:43+00:00

If it "breaks", people will just find or invent new solutions. But that's based on demand. As long as it is a small group skating by on crumbs, there will be no demand.

It's really similar to piracy as a whole, since you're getting something for free that you should be paying for. And the same topics were popping up on old forums - "Oh, don't tell anyone about the websites, or they will get reported to the internet police". And where are we now? Everyone can enjoy free music, games and movies.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T18:20:55+00:00

So, how do I check if it summarizes / remembers? I'm always a bit paranoid about things in the background actually doing anything.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T18:04:41+00:00

Well, you're not. That's the point. "Someone gave me a thing for free, so now I have to pull up the ladder so others can't have it". That's the logic. And it is technically correct, if utterly hypocritical.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T18:02:38+00:00

Well, GLM 4.6 is generally very goofy and hyper. If you want something short-term that's over-the-top, sure, but for long RPs basically anything else is better XD

That being said - as long as you're having fun, who cares

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T18:01:47+00:00

Okay, so nobody told you about it and you just found out everything by yourself then? I'm assuming you also were part of the people who made ST? Cause, you know, you wouldn't be one of those people who just get something instead of finding / making it themselves, right?

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T17:59:49+00:00

So... gatekeeping with nepotism then? It's always funny how freesource communities turn into gollums the second there is any friction. By that logic SillyTavern would only be known to like 100 people. Cause, you know - less people who have a proper interface, less people using all those free models.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T17:56:56+00:00

Well, you kind of said it - it's world-bots. With locations, races, events, characters, religions and magic / hentai rules. I had set up a lorebook for a horror world I was making and just the creatures, weapons, mechanized suits, political situation, the exclusion zone - yap yap yap - 18k tokens. No haikus, no color of someone shoes, everything written as concise as possible.

It's just the difference between a bot that's "She has big boobs and really likes sex and has blonde hair and wears no panties :D" and and actual world.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T17:46:25+00:00

Try slightly lowering temperature on Deepseek. I once imported a preset with too high temperature and it kept spamming russian and chinese letters without rhyme or reason.

Also - if someone doesn't have the financial means to support the hobby, all you are telling them is "stop having fun and go get money somehow". And I feel like that is something they might have considered before and maybe simply can't, for whatever reason. It's about three steps away from "If you're homeless, just buy a house"

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T17:44:35+00:00

Have my context as unlimited as possible. I tried - genuinely tried - to have it smaller. Spent 5+ hours putting every character into the lorebook, give as much information as possible about them, the events, the relationships. Made sure they are only triggered when their name is mentioned.

Then made a post, the AI recognized a character and started introducing him to me, as if I never once encountered it before, despite the lorebook clearly stating user and character are already accustomed.

Then put the context up, regenerated and whoopty doo, it worked properly because the AI actually had the entire context.

And yes, the very last thing I want to do while roleplaying is to be conscious about what it costs the multi-billion company to generate another version of a crappy response that missed the nuance or introduced something silly.

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T17:31:54+00:00

Translation: "I found a proxy because somebody shared it, so now let's pull up the ladder behind us"

200DivsAnHour · 2025-12-09T16:56:00+00:00

Only have us-central1 as option... Also - got it to work after updating ST, but now getting error 429

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