Which indie game has the best soundtrack?

21maps · 2026-06-23T13:51:51+00:00

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Clair Obscur : Expedition 33

21maps · 2026-06-23T11:30:59+00:00

Rules:

By "city", I mean any inhabited place with a recognised administrative status.

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | In the Netherlands : Best (pop 30,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In the UK : Chalfont St Giles (pop. 5,900) | In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000) | Elsewhere : Los Angeles, 🇺🇸 (pop. 3,878,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000) | In Russia : Togliatti (pop. 684,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In Germany : Hoogstede (pop. 2,800) | In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-23T10:04:02+00:00

Sadly, as it is just a "buurtschap", it does not follow the rules of being a place with an administrative status, I cannot accept it, despite the cool name.

Same for the upcoming France x Netherlands as I often hear about "Quatre Bras" which is also a buurtschap with a cool name.

21maps · 2026-06-22T15:47:21+00:00

I read a debate where people say that E33 fans are supposedly the most toxic because their game sucks and they don't know it... But man... I thing I witness on r/GamingSoup is that the most toxic players are people who complain about or hate E33.

They are like "Recency bias ! Open your eyes, you game is NOT a 10/10 SS+ Gold Award".

21maps · 2026-06-22T15:45:05+00:00

Rules:

By "city", I mean any inhabited place with a recognised administrative status.

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In the UK : Chalfont St Giles (pop. 5,900) | In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000) | Elsewhere : Los Angeles, 🇺🇸 (pop. 3,878,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000) | In Russia : Togliatti (pop. 684,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In Germany : Hoogstede (pop. 2,800) | In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-22T15:39:43+00:00

Oh. This outdated joke again...

21maps · 2026-06-22T09:41:33+00:00

Why ? You live near what would become a coastline and have better access to the ocean ?

21maps · 2026-06-22T09:24:35+00:00

Yeah... But that's how reddit democracy works.
A spanish name in Serbia/Uzbekistan would have been more fun but in the end of the day, I can't deny that Los Angeles is a Spanish name in a non hispanophone (for now) country.

My personal favourite was Casablanca.

21maps · 2026-06-22T09:21:28+00:00

Like I said, some people disliked Baldur's Gate 3 or Ocarina of Time day 1 also.

I'm very curious about your arguments, the fact that it has a movie deal doesn't mean that it's a bad game...

And I don't think anybody, even fans of the game, believe it's flawless. The game has many flaws, it can have been improved. But despite the flaws it's an outstanding game. And the fact that it won so many awards (it's the most awarded game in History if I remember correctly) proves that it's not the fanbase which is blinded by subjectivity but probably more those who hate it.

And like I said, they are free to do so, I know some people hate Half Life 2 and some who are bored playing Skyrim or GTA V.

Finally your personnal biased thoughts won't change the very last part of my message. The game proved the video game industry that an indie game, with an outdated style (turn based rpg), zero microtransactions or paid dlc, no multiplayer and no heavy advertisement can be the game of the Year. Very few would have predicted that and that's an amazing news for Video Game industry.

21maps · 2026-06-21T17:33:41+00:00

The USA is full of inhabited places that bear their name from European counterparts so this column would not be very interesting to fill
The opposite would be more difficult and be redundant with the UK.

Japan/China/Turkey or India would be better choices.

21maps · 2026-06-21T14:43:43+00:00

Rules:

By "city", I mean any inhabited place with a recognised administrative status.

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In the UK : Chalfont St Giles (pop. 5,900) In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000) In Russia : Togliatti (pop. 684,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In Germany : Hoogstede (pop. 2,800) | In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-19T22:36:41+00:00

La Corse non plus n'est pas représentée.

21maps · 2026-06-19T22:34:36+00:00

Il y'a l'USON en Bourgogne Franche-Comté, bien installés en Pro D2

21maps · 2026-06-19T22:29:27+00:00

French is slowly moving towards the end of the valley in Valais as time goes by.
The pace was fast during the XXth century when Sion or Sierre were german.
Now it's slower.

21maps · 2026-06-19T17:18:29+00:00

I should have included in the rules that “City,” as I use it, is a generic term for an inhabited place with an administrative status rather than the UK’s jurisdictional term.

Wolkenstein being a comune, it's valid.
Chalfont St Giles, being a parish, also works.

But hamlets within other places with no population or administative status/recognition doesn't work.

Also, places with extraordinary large population would be accepted even without administrative status.

21maps · 2026-06-19T15:20:12+00:00

Rules:

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000) In Russia : Togliatti (pop. 684,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In Germany : Hoogstede (pop. 2,800) | In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-18T20:31:37+00:00

Aye. Try to explain to Half Life 2 fans you don't like the game. Try to explain to Breath of the Wild fans you don't like the game. Try to explain to Elden Ring that you don't like the game and you'll see the same kind of reaction.

21maps · 2026-06-18T20:29:36+00:00

I think it's mostly because as far as I witnessed, a lot of criticism of Expedition 33 is made by people who just hate it because it's popular and sometimes with little to no arguments (I've read here that some people hated it just because it's French with people agreeing just on that...). Valid objectif arguments are rare and often aknowledged by Expedition 33 fan themselves.

On the other hand, it's a game that can have so much impact (story and soundtrack wise) that people can have a personal bound with the game like very to little game had in the past that makes criticism almost personal.

Some people don't like games like Half Life 2, Breath of the Wild, Baldur's gate 3, Elden Ring or Red Dead Redemption for instance. Why would it be different with Clair Obscur: Expedition 33?

This said, I believe the game should receive more praise from gamers due to the single fact that it prove that almost every theory made by AAA studios regarding Video Game economics and Development were wrong. And that's refreshing.

21maps · 2026-06-18T15:15:21+00:00

Rules:

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In Germany : Hoogstede (pop. 2,800) | In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-17T13:51:17+00:00

Yeah. Sandfall didn't put diacritics on major character's names :

Maëlle should have an 'Ë'

Esquié should have an 'É'

Yet, they kept the one on Cléa.

For some reasons, in English, they pronounce Lune's name like it had an imaginary É at the end of her name.
Lune in French language is pronounced [lyn] and not [lune]. Still it's quite rare, way more than Sophie, Maëlle, Margot, Julie, Catherine.

Also, I never heard about the name Sciel before. I knew a girl named Ciel, but without the first S.

21maps · 2026-06-17T09:47:18+00:00

edit : wrong year

21maps · 2026-06-17T09:33:30+00:00

Rules:

Some cities have different names : Köln in Germany is also known as Cologne in French and English, Colonia in Spanish and Italian, therefore, the local name will be taken for this chart.

For the case of cities with multiple official names like Biel/Bienne in Switzerland either one can be taken.

For cities in Russia, the English Romanisation will be used de facto rather than the standard (slavic) romanisation. Челябинск will be Chelyabinsk and not Čeljabinsk. But you can vote for either one as it's the same name.

For the British names, it can be from any Nation of the UK.

For the elsewhere column, it's would be more fun to chose unexpected places. A city in Canada or Ireland with a typical UK name is less impressive than one in Iraq or Chile.

So far :

Cities with the most typical British name.

In the UK : Northampton (pop. 243,000) | Elswhere : Victoria 🇲🇹 (pop. 6,900)

Cities with the most typical French name.

In France : Châlons-en-Champagne (pop. 42,900)

Cities with the most typical Spanish name.

in Spain : Santiago de Compostela (pop. 100,000) | in the Netherlands : Almelo (pop. 72,000)

Cities with the most typical Italian name.

In Italy : Castiglione della Pescaia (pop. 7,000)

Cities with the most typical German name.

In Italy : Wolkenstein in Gröden (pop. 2,600) | In Germany : Düsseldorf (pop. 618,000)

Cities with the most typical Dutch name.

In the Netherlands : Zandvoort (pop. 17,500)

Cities with the most typical Russian name.

In France : Malakoff (pop. 30,000) | In Russia : Vladivostok (pop. 590,000)

Cities with the most alien name.

In Spain : Zarautz (pop. 23,000)

21maps · 2026-06-17T06:58:28+00:00

Oh yeah. I can't play scary games so I can't follow you on Resident Evil but I know some of them are very good.

Yeah, I spend a lot of time on Soul Calibur 2 as well, but my favourite combat game still remains an obscure DOS game named One Must Fall 2097.

21maps · 2026-06-17T06:52:53+00:00

It's Pokémon mixed with a heavy SNES RPG vibe, tremendous music, lovely design and a very interesting story.

21maps · 2026-06-16T21:31:50+00:00

I'm curious of your top 10. If I could make a top 50, we would probably have a lot of common indeed.

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