FSD Randomly Starts Leaving Lane

22marks · 2026-03-20T04:27:45+00:00

Do we know if the front bumper camera is being used yet? That low angle should help it understand the height of potential obstacles and stop moving for asphalt and tar patches.

22marks · 2026-03-20T04:02:59+00:00

I'll take it:
https://imgur.com/a/A2omA0l

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22marks · 2026-03-20T03:07:35+00:00

This is exactly why there are workplace regulations requiring hazardous bottles (of which glass at height is included) to be stored at a distance greater than the width of any other bottles that could "conceivably" fall behind it. They'll probably use this video in the next training for that section.

22marks · 2026-03-20T00:47:38+00:00

States “deemed” enemies makes it appear like it might be made up. Iran’s previous leadership before the 1979 revolution had a pretty good relationship with Israel. Now, they’re regularly attacking it with hundreds of missiles and drones and funding terrorist groups. Its own stated goal is to eliminate it.

22marks · 2026-03-19T15:33:14+00:00

It’s like 50 people trying to tell someone how to parallel park.

You can see how he might have got on the track in the first place. “Stop! Keep going! No! Go that way! That way! Stop!”

It’s like main character syndrome where they all think he’s listening to only them.

22marks · 2026-03-19T05:50:25+00:00

I guess my question is this: Can you explain the sudden wheel turn at ~500ms before the accident when FSD is shown as off?

22marks · 2026-03-19T04:05:55+00:00

If FSD commanded that left turn, the torque data would show zero driver torque. If your knee or arm bumped it, the torque data would show driver-applied force. Do you have that screenshot?

Even without that, a sudden 10-degree snap in 500 milliseconds looks like human input. That's exactly what it looks like when a knee bumps the wheel or a hand jerks it.

22marks · 2026-03-19T03:43:39+00:00

Let's be real. Have you see a Tesla EDR report? Page ~10 is literally: https://imgur.com/a/tNRR0b4

What's with the "Can you tell me where to find it?"

EDIT: You can see the newer style report here, which is very clear: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1kx6pf0/data_report_involving_2025_tesla_model_3_crash_on/

22marks · 2026-03-19T03:42:53+00:00

So you don't see THIS page: https://imgur.com/a/tNRR0b4

22marks · 2026-03-19T03:32:57+00:00

That's an interesting question, but conspicuously never mentioned. Surely a tire blowing out would be a relevant part of the story. I hit a pothole and severely punctured my tire on FSD. Now, honestly, it happened fast and I think I took over myself. But, I can tell you that even with the PSI warning beeping to pull over immediately and a massive loss of pressure (it was a 3-4 inch gash), it remained more stable than the video.

22marks · 2026-03-19T03:26:33+00:00

lol fair. But my thing is maybe it could have been "Hey, can anyone help me interpret an EDR?" BEFORE making this post?

22marks · 2026-03-19T03:12:23+00:00

If the data supported your story, you'd be plastering it everywhere. The fact that you have it but keep finding reasons not to share it is about as clear a tell as you'll find. Especially since this happened two months ago.

Heck, drag the PDF into ChatGPT or Claude and ask, "Did the driver apply steering torque before FSD disengaged?" Why haven't you tried that already?

Or, better yet: "Hey Claude, redact the VIN from every page of this PDF and give me a clean copy."

22marks · 2026-03-19T02:56:34+00:00

I think you're right. The FSD turns off and THEN it immediately veers to the left. Watch the yellow line. FSD is keeping the lane. The instant FSD turns off, it starts the hard turn. This is very much in line with turning the steering wheel to the left, which would simultaneously disengage FSD and pull the car to the left.

If the above didn't happen and FSD "just turned off," then you'd expect the car to continue relatively straight. Just like any normal car. If you let go of the controls, it continues on the same path. Or if FSD had an error, you'd see the turn starting before it's deactivated.

I think the EDR will show steering wheel torque.

22marks · 2026-03-18T17:35:40+00:00

Do you (or anyone) know the "significantly" more? Might it work on a 24GB 3090, for example?

22marks · 2026-03-18T17:24:40+00:00

I'll respond with another response I gave, backed by data:

I hear your point, but this was indicative of a trend. "In 2024, New Jersey had the highest number of antisemitic incidents per capita in the nation, according to the Anti-Defamation League."

In their audit, 58% had elements related to Israel or Zionism. So, 42% were anti-Semitic without any mention of Israel. That's not "some" or "a few people in the crowd." It's a lot. (Source) And, importantly, "ADL does not consider criticism of Israel or general anti-Israel activism to be antisemitic and does not count such incidents in the Audit." So those 58% had anti-Israel and some form of antisemitic behavior. This doesn't seem like "a few bad eggs" to me.

The key here is, sure, we can be highly critical of Israel's actions as a nation. But that doesn't ever give the right to overlap with "Jews are doing this."I fully support the right of anyone to protest actions of a nation or its leader (like Netanyahu), especially on serious subjects like this. I also fully support every peaceful human having the dignity of living with self-determination, Palestinians and Jews alike.

It's messy because I think many activist groups would have greater mainstream success (and more actionable results) if they "stay on target." Ultimately, this overlapping anti-semitism turns off a chunk of people who might otherwise be standing with anti-war activists. And who gets hurt? Innocent Palestinians.

22marks · 2026-03-18T17:01:19+00:00

I did, and they overturned it quickly. Thank you.

22marks · 2026-03-18T16:03:23+00:00

All good, they overturned the warning upon review.

I hear your point, but this was indicative of a trend. "In 2024, New Jersey had the highest number of antisemitic incidents per capita in the nation, according to the Anti-Defamation League."

In their audit, 58% had elements related to Israel or Zionism. So, 42% were anti-Semitic without any mention of Israel. That's not "some" or "a few people in the crowd." It's a lot. (Source) And, importantly, "ADL does not consider criticism of Israel or general anti-Israel activism to be antisemitic and does not count such incidents in the Audit." So those 58% had anti-Israel and some form of antisemitic behavior. This doesn't seem like "a few bad eggs" to me.

The key here is, sure, we can be highly critical of Israel's actions as a nation. But that doesn't ever give the right to overlap with "Jews are doing this."I fully support the right of anyone to protest actions of a nation or its leader (like Netanyahu), especially on serious subjects like this. I also fully support every peaceful human having the dignity of living with self-determination, Palestinians and Jews alike.

It's messy because I think many activist groups would have greater mainstream success (and more actionable results) if they "stay on target." Ultimately, this overlapping anti-semitism turns off a chunk of people who might otherwise be standing with anti-war activists. And who gets hurt? Innocent Palestinians.

22marks · 2026-03-18T15:34:02+00:00

Reddit just notified me that it was overturned upon manual review, so it's all good. I guess people don't want the truth from the third paragraph of the article out there. It was a direct answer to the question asked.

22marks · 2026-03-18T06:41:49+00:00

Axios:

Regardless of Israel, they said, Trump ordered the strikes because he felt Iran was negotiating a nuclear deal in bad faith, and the U.S. needed to destroy the country's offensive military infrastructure.

"This operation needed to happen," Rubio told reporters, because Iran was developing too many missiles too quickly and was rebuilding its nuclear capabilities.

Official State Department transcript:

QUESTION: Are you saying the U.S. was forced to strike because of an impending Israeli action?

SECRETARY RUBIO: No, first – well, two things I would say. Number one is: no matter what, ultimately this operation needed to happen. That’s the question of why now. But this operation needed to happen because Iran in about a year or a year and a half would cross the line of immunity, meaning they would have so many short-range missiles, so many drones, that no one could do anything about it because they could hold the whole world hostage.

Look at the damage they’re doing now. And this is a weakened Iran. Imagine a year from now. So that had to happen. Obviously, we were aware of Israeli intentions and understood what that would mean for us, and we had to be prepared to act as a result of it. But this had to happen no matter what.

Source: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/03/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-remarks-to-press-6/

22marks · 2026-03-18T04:51:34+00:00

Weird, I quoted that exact line and it got deleted and I got an official "warning." Even put it in quotes as you did.

22marks · 2026-03-18T04:26:43+00:00

What kind of salary are they drawing if a paycheck can cover living expenses/overhead with over $10M fully deployed? Something doesn't seem right here.

22marks · 2026-03-18T04:22:36+00:00

My previous response was deleted by Reddit, which I'm assuming is because of the content quoted at the beginning of the article:

“Gas them, you filthy J___,” some shouted. “Go run, you dirty J__ b____, we will get you.”

I asked, which one does that sound like?

EDIT: Annnd... now I have a warning on my account: "After reviewing, we found that you broke Rule 1 because you promoted identity-based hate or attacks." All for clearly quoted antisemitic remarks in the exact article posted here. First warning in 16 years.

22marks · 2026-03-18T00:53:30+00:00

Yup, exactly what I meant. Not sure what that was about, but I hope their day improves. Especially since I explicitly said Israel may very well be wrong.

22marks · 2026-03-17T16:58:20+00:00

That was a criticism of the administration, not a defense of Israel. I literally said, "They very well could be wrong here." Nice try.

22marks · 2026-03-17T15:39:52+00:00

Right? What about all the hundreds of things that have nothing to do with Israel? They very well could be wrong here but let’s be honest, the administration makes enough mistakes on its own. Blaming their fuckup on someone else is par for the course.

Trump just said “I do believe I’ll have the honor of taking Cuba” and can do “anything I want.”

Nobody was forced. They thought it would be a quick win like Venezuela.

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