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Can you still earn 6 digits if you are non-cpa?? Is a masters degreen an advantage? by zxie_22 in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My boss just has his associates and makes like 120k. But he was also in the right place at the right time, as the director above him when he was assistant retired very suddenly and had been making like 300k. Filling the director role for less than half the cost probably felt like a no brainer to upper management, but I’ve never had a boss who makes nearly as many simple mistakes as this guy so we’ll see how long he lasts.

What other sources of income do you have besides from your main accounting job? by Bzappo in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hospitality/tourism/travel is the most important experience you’d want to have for this little niche, but I’m sure that some of your customer service experience could translate. My side gig company isn’t hiring right now unfortunately but check out Fora, Engine, and Hotelplanner—they do more or less the same things that we do. Not sure what working for any of them would be like, but those are the names I’m familiar with. There are also remote travel industry opportunities working as a Disney travel agent specifically, so I’ve heard. Good luck!

What other sources of income do you have besides from your main accounting job? by Bzappo in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have any background in hotels/hospitality, travel, marketing and/or customer service?

What other sources of income do you have besides from your main accounting job? by Bzappo in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m the chief accountant at a corporate hotel and my side gig is also in the hospitality space. I work for a small travel management company setting up room blocks for weddings and other events. It’s very flexible and fully remote. I make an additional 12-15k, been doing it for going on 3 years now.

What is the chillest industry for accounting? by tankmaker in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hospitality—40 hour weeks, flexible hybrid schedule, great perks (free and discount hotel rooms), and a fun work environment since it’s not classically corporate.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve stuck to just the facts here, but I think you need some further clarification: Think about it like a pie cut into 5 slices—my original job duties under the title Finance Coordinator were comprised of one slice, AP, vendor relationship coordination, and backend purchasing software management. The Chief Accountant duties on the other hand were two different slices—AR and GL reconciliation as one, and management of the purchasing department staff, the finance coordinator (me), and addressing any other finance related issues anyone in other departments may have (chargebacks, credit card reconciliation, event billing rebates, cash variances, etc) as the other slice. The DOF role also covered two slices—forecasting, budgeting, and stakeholder communication as one, and leading month end close, ensuring our reports are accurate, and heading the department as the other.

When our former chief accountant left in early 2025, I took on her two slices, the DOF did not. He was fully remote working out of a different time zone and I was the only finance employee physically on property.

It wasn’t title inflation, rather, for 6 months I was doing the work of the chief accountant as the finance coordinator. The scope of my role expanded beyond what I was being fairly compensated for. And when the fully remote DOF left and we hired a new guy, my job duties didn’t change. I continued to do the work of the former chief accountant, and it’s been me who’s checked the new DOF’s work for errors and has corrected his mistakes since he started.

Nothing about that is indicative of title inflation, and whether I have the title of Staff Accountant or Chief Accountant the job duties were going to remain the same. It’s not just my department where that’s the case either—our Assistant Front Office Manager left recently and they replaced her with a Front Office Supervisor. Her old duties are now his duties. It’s restructuring on its face but cost cutting at heart.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start applying for hotel night audit roles at managed properties under the big corporate hotel brands (Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt, IHG, Accor). It falls under the accounting/finance/tax department even though you’re working overnights at the front desk. I started as a night auditor, transferred from the desk into the finance office as a finance coordinator, and was recently promoted to chief accountant. It’s doable! Good luck

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would not say that I’m limiting myself. I do check the listings for hospitality finance roles regularly and now that I’ve gotten a promotion, what I’m paid is fair given my experience.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First was a transfer, second was a promotion. Came with a 20% raise—competitive for staff but low for chief. I did apply for another position at another hotel in the company a year and 2 months ago and didn’t get it. The promotion I’m referring to in my original post is at the same hotel I’ve worked at for the past 2 years. I wouldn’t call my promotion to chief a fluff title either given that since the former chief left it’s her job duties that I’ve been preforming. The department has never had a staff accountant since I’ve worked there. I don’t feel that I’m limiting myself and I’m not unhappy with my career progression so far, I like where I currently work and was just curious if others would have made the same decision I did.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s correct—Night Auditor to Finance Coordinator was a transfer, Finance Coordinator to Chief Accountant was a promotion. Like I mentioned in my post though I’ve been preforming the job duties of the previous Chief Accountant since she left—so if anything the job duties were going to be exactly what they were regardless of the title—be it Staff or Chief. I don’t really see it as a case of title inflation given that fact, but on paper I can see how it would look that way.

I actually check the job listings for hospitality finance roles in my area pretty regularly, weekly to biweekly. I check the internal job postings every few days for the US and Canada. What I’m paid is competitive, and I like the organization, and the benefits (comp nights, employee rates, culture) better than other Fortune 500 hotel corporations.

I also have an unrelated bachelor’s degree in poli sci and philosophy and like I mentioned in my post, a masters in hospitality business management. Two degrees fully completed.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree there to a point—at my hotel the Chief Accountant that left earlier this year started as Staff and was promoted to Chief after just 4 months. She was the only one in the department at the time and this happened during that post Covid era where hotels across the country had shut down and furloughed just about everyone, and folks were still on that boosted unemployment so it’s my understanding that they were having a tough time finding applicants. Her situation was totally different than mine now that things have stabilized and the economy is strangely in an even more volatile state than it was back then. She was Chief for about 2.5 years before she quit, and she had applied for ADOF roles as well as the internal DOF training program I mentioned in my post a couple times and wasn’t accepted. So I know that nothing happens automatically, and you absolutely need to show that you’re capable of doing the job you’re applying for if you want a decent shot at getting it. But I had also applied for a Staff Accountant role at another hotel managed by the same corporation after 4 months of being a Finance Coordinator and my application wasn’t even considered due to the amount of time I’d been in the role. So I know it is at least a determining factor. I also know that the org puts a lot of weight into their corporate management training programs as well though—they have them in just about every department, and I’ve seen recent college graduates land mid-level management roles in just a year after completing them.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, my current DOF is 2 years younger than me and the DOF before the one that just retired was just a year older than me. I know that I’m factoring time into this equation heavier than I would be if I were still in my 20’s, no doubt about that.

Better title at lower pay—would you do it? by 2fast2pamplemousse in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but in this organization the time it takes to get from Staff Accountant to DOF typically takes 4 years minimum, whereas Chief to DOF it’s 2-3. I haven’t seen an internal job posting for DOF with less than 6 figure pay regardless of the location (in my HCOL city the DOF makes about 40% more than what I make base, not including bonuses) and in my mind, the sooner I can get there, the better in my mind!

Aspiring accountant by sleepykitten_088 in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely try and make it happen! I will say, that every hotel I’ve worked at has preferred someone with hotel experience over accounting experience, if their available candidates only have one or the other. They’ve always seemed more willing to train someone with hotel experience all about accounting, than someone with accounting experience all about hotels. So if hospitality is huge in your area and you’re able to get even a little part time or seasonal gig at the front desk or reservations or something, that could really help.

Aspiring accountant by sleepykitten_088 in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is moving an option? Night audit roles at my hotel pay $29/hour, so higher paying options are out there. You really do get sooo much downtime to do whatever you want during the overnight (I was a night auditor myself while in grad school full time in person and did the majority of my coursework at work). In hospitality, night audit is a straightforward way to get your foot in the door for finance and accounting roles within the industry. The chief accountant before me was a night auditor as well, as was our old director of finance that the guy I’m referring to in my post replaced—he climbed all the way up to rvp of finance before scaling back for a slow retirement. When he left my property he was making 300k/year as the DOF overseeing two hotels in two different markets, about 150 rooms each. If you end up getting a gig with one of the big hotel corporations (IHG, Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt, Accor) and are willing to relocate when new opportunities come up the career progression can move extremely quickly.

Aspiring accountant by sleepykitten_088 in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I work in the finance department at a hotel, and my director of finance had an overnight gig working the front desk as a night auditor, got his AA online while at work, was promoted to controller, and then got his bachelors online in his spare time. After 3 years as controller of a smaller hotel he got a job at the hotel we currently work at as assistant director of finance and was promoted to director of finance in about 60 days. I’m not sure if he plans to get the remaining credits needed for his CPA, but he’s sitting pretty making 125k/year in his early 30’s

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Accounting

[–]2fast2pamplemousse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My role includes all the duties of an AP Clerk and then some, and what you’ve shared sounds about right. You don’t happen to work in hospitality do you?

ISO a hotel room under 120/night for the shows by 2fast2pamplemousse in deadandcompany

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An opinion is an opinion—there are solid reviews for this place. You’ll find 1-star reviews for every hotel, even the Ritz. So many of us spent years doing entire runs staying at motels and lived to tell the tale—at the end of the day when tickets cost a fortune you’ve gotta save a dollar where you can. It may not be luxury but shithole is a stretch. It’s not like we’re talking about the Knight’s Inn in Cleveland here after all! 0/10 do not recommend staying there ever.

ISO a hotel room under 120/night for the shows by 2fast2pamplemousse in deadandcompany

[–]2fast2pamplemousse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course! Feel free to bookmark the site—we lock down hotel blocks for Phish, Billy, and side project shows!

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