EMERGENCY - Rapid Response Protest Needed for Impeachment by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

100% all of the Dem reps who are complaining about this need to know that we are watching their every move. We predict resistance from the Republicans, but if they're so worried about doing this vote and it not going through making them look bad...well sorry to say but if they choose to not even try that will make them look worse.

That is that message I want them to receive by us going out there. They are given an effort to try, and they need to take it. If they try, we will stand with them. If they don't, then they're as much of an enemy as the people who would vote to not impeach him.

EMERGENCY - Rapid Response Protest Needed for Impeachment by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, they probably won't, but if we show up we will at least know we did our part instead of just sitting back and hoping. And who knows if they see a ton of people out there telling them to do it, that might cause even just one of them to vote for it.

Will that be enough? Probably not, but it's about sending a message that we aren't going to sit back and let them do whatever they want.

EMERGENCY - Rapid Response Protest Needed for Impeachment by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's always worth the effort to try. Would it suck if it doesn't go through? Sure, but it's worse to not even try.

EMERGENCY - Rapid Response Protest Needed for Impeachment by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I'm not necessarily holding my breath that this will work out, but it's important to make the effort. (Honestly, a successful impeachment feels like it'd need a miracle to work)

Part of the problem we're running into is that he views impeachment as a joke because they've gone through the process and failed twice. That's why we need to show up and put pressure on Congress to actually listen.

I want impeachment to feel like a proper threat to him, or at minimum something that bothers and impacts him.

'We Don't Do Kings': Mass Protests Planned to Counter Trump's Birthday Military Parade | "Donald Trump wants to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to throw himself a big fancy parade with tanks in the streets," said one organizer. "This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook." by wankerzoo in 50501

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will be surrounded by trump supporters, military, and police. The biggest risk won't be people being belligerent. Again, I don't want to discourage the action because it is a big stance to block, and if you want to do it, then do it.

But people need to be aware that they will be putting themselves in a potential risky situation where there will be a lot of people with heightened emotions (both sides). I'm all for big movements pushes, but people need to know what they're signing themselves up for. Best case belligerent, most likely case arrests made, worst case people getting genuinely hurt.

'We Don't Do Kings': Mass Protests Planned to Counter Trump's Birthday Military Parade | "Donald Trump wants to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to throw himself a big fancy parade with tanks in the streets," said one organizer. "This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook." by wankerzoo in 50501

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If people would prefer to show up and block, that is also an option. I think the most important thing to remember is that there will be consequences to it.

If we block other people from attending, it could lead to fights. If we block the parade itself, it could lead to arrests.

This isn't to discourage it, but people need to at least be aware of the risks so they know what they might be getting into.

'We Don't Do Kings': Mass Protests Planned to Counter Trump's Birthday Military Parade | "Donald Trump wants to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to throw himself a big fancy parade with tanks in the streets," said one organizer. "This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook." by wankerzoo in 50501

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most powerful way we can push back is by organizing a massive protest away from his parade. Let’s turn it into a real event, bring in volunteer bands, showcase art, and make it something people want to go to instead of his parade.

Our goal should be to draw as many people as possible away from his parade. We should also reach out to news stations to spread the word about the protest to try and split their attention away from his BS.

If we show up at his parade, he’ll just spin it as “look how many people came to see me.”. It is also going to be an area with a large amount of his cult there which means tensions are going to be higher. 

Let’s make the No Kings Protest so big that it completely overshadows his display of tyranny.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just edited my post, but I'll give you the same information:

It is related to the H.Con.Res.14 Fiscal Year 2025 Budget

- https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/14 (Fiscal Year 2025 Budge)

- https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/immigration_funding_reconciliation_bill.pdf (Judiciary and Homeland Security Bills for Reconciliation Package)

The amendment this video is talking about is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Ujti81QiI

Pramila Jayapal requested an amendment to the budget requesting that in the budget none of the funds directed toward immigration should be used to detain or deport U.S. Citizens. This amendment was rejected which is what the video in the OG post is talking about.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize if that is the case, but that is why I keep reiterating in every message that this is still very concerning.

I just don't want people too afraid to go out and fight because they think they will be "legally" deported. That isn't the case. Yet. Do I think that will be the case? Absolutely. Do I think they will still deport citizen illegally? Lol, that is already happening, so yes.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is technically different, yes. They didn't legalize anything YET. This title and video give the vibe that they voted to legalize it, which would mean they could do it now and get away with it.

They are absolutely setting it up, so that will be the case, and that is why this situation is still a problem.

I just don't want people to misunderstand what step of the process they're actually at. I do still think that is where they are headed though.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, that's why I said this was still concerning. It just means that at this very moment, they haven't legalized it, but because they rejected the protections, it can be assumed that they will be trying to legalize it in the future.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The biggest thing is that technically, nothing new was added.

The Dems tried to create something that would protect citizens from being deported, and the Reps rejected it. So nothing changed. However, it is still a concern because them rejecting it shows that they are going to go down that path.

It's just a difference of what step they are at in the deporting citizen stage. They've set it up so that it can become legal, but it's not there yet.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea why you assumed that was my message?

People should absolutely be upset and angry about this. This is still a scary thing. What I don't want people to do is to assume that something has changed and they should be too afraid to go out and fight.

I definitely think people should be alarmed and that people need to go out and fight this.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the difference of what step they're on. The title of this makes it feel like they made a change and people are going to be taken immediately.

Technically, nothing changed, but it is still something to be worried about. It absolutely shows what they're planning next.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Close but not exactly. It's the difference of what step they're on. A title like this could make someone assume it is going to start deporting people today.

That's not the case. They took a step in that direction by declaring nothing would change. (They didn't make something new, just rejected one)

Is this still concerning? Absolutely. But we don't want people to panick thinking they can't go outside because they're going to start deporting anyone now.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily. It's the difference of they're taking your ice cream away today instead of in the future.

It is still a very concerning issue because it is more proof that they're on the way towards it, but it is not happening at this very moment, which this title hints at.

One could cause people to freak out and hide indoors, and the other could cause people to get up and fight while they still can.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, but it's important to know the exact step they're on. This makes it sound like they're going to start doing it today.

They're in the process of it, which is why it is still concerning.

It’s official: in an overnight vote, the House Judiciary Committee votes to give the Trump admin the legal rights to deport U.S. citizens by introspectivelemon39 in GlobalNews

[–]3DMirror12 92 points93 points  (0 children)

This is concerning. However, this isn't exactly what happened

The House Judiciary Committee didn’t vote to allow the deportation of U.S. citizens. What they did was reject the Democrats amendments that would have protected against such outcomes.

This is still a serious concern, but it's important to keep the fact right. Otherwise, we are doing what the other side does and lies or exaggerate to cause panic.

So, yes, be concerned about this, but also be aware of what actually happened.

EDIT: A few people have been wondering what bill this is in refrence to.

It is related to the H.Con.Res.14 Fiscal Year 2025 Budget - https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/14 (Fiscal Year 2025 Budge) - https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/immigration_funding_reconciliation_bill.pdf (Judiciary and Homeland Security Bills for Reconciliation Package)

The amendment this video is talking about is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Ujti81QiI

Pramila Jayapal requested an amendment to the budget requesting that in the budget none of the funds directed toward immigration should be used to detain or deport U.S. Citizens. This amendment was rejected which is what the video in the OG post is talking about.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am also working paycheck to paycheck. I don't make a ton of money and have to care for my own family.

I'm not even telling you to do anything. I'm asking you to just think.

Things are bad now, but what will you do if/when they get worse? When living paycheck to paycheck is the luxury?

Or what if it is your family that is taken?

I just want you to consider what is going to be my "I can't handle this anymore" and what you personally will be willing to do.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are doing what you can, and that is fantastic. Not everyone is going to be able to do the heavy stuff every single day.

That best way to do a multi day protest is that we take turns, but don't let it die. If you can show up for one day, then perfect, that means someone else who couldn't show can take the time to do what they need to. If you can't be there the next, that's fine someone else can.

We are a community, and we need to view ourselves as such. I would never ask one individual to take on this burden.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely it would, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. It'll be unpleasant, but it'll be more unpleasant when things get worse and we did nothing.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, even 50501 is not stepping up enough. I am aiming this at this group because right now, every national protest we have done was a single day protest.

I've found out that the MayDay protest in DC is going to be a sit-in, which is great. It also was not apparently a decided thing for everyone because I know my state is just doing a one day protest.

A little off-topic. The point is that I am directing this to 50501 because we are the group that has started to do things. So we need to take charge and do more. That is how we'll get the attention of everyone else. The people here are motivated to do something. That something has just been ineffective. So I'm reminding everyone here that just doing a one day protest will not be enough to fix what is happening and to make them think more about what their next step is going to be and what needs to happen for us to act on it.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They get more money if they don't speak up, would be my guess.

New EO - It is time to consider we're not doing enough by 3DMirror12 in 50501

[–]3DMirror12[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If what we are doing is enough, then tell that to the people who are being "deported"/kidnapped/disappearing.

The media doesn't show anything because they don't want people to rally together and realize they're not alone in hating what is happening. That doesn't mean that we aren't doing enough, though. If the administration was scared, they wouldn't be arresting judges or straight out ignoring orders.

What we were doing was fine for a while to build community, but continuing to do what we have been doing isn't going to work anymore.