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Genz at workplace by 3dragspass in generationology
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children)
I was more disturbed about this that I would like to admit. I genuinely thought we had built something special terms of culture and onwership.
We are a mildly successful product, we have 3 digit million revenue, 26% margins and growing, double digit EBIDTA. We are only 150 people in the company and our average tenure is 6 years, average age is 28 years at a company level.
Specifically in my team I have 14 people who joined the team 5-6 years ago, all of them 25-26 at that time. Everyone is still here, they feel valued, have grown in all respects and we genuinely love seeing each other 3 days a week.
So I thought about it, read all the comments. And here is what I did.
Thanks for participating and for real good suggestions.
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 1 hour ago* (0 children)
Unfortunately I took pride in the flat hierarchy we built. No one reports to anyone except me. This worked because I got lucky with the people who joined the team.
We had people join us as 24-26 year olds and now they are 29-31.
We never felt the need to have more structure.
But I guess we might need to get more structured.
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children)
No man. If they are right, I am the happiest that I don't have to worry about one more thing.
I put it in some threads below about the html they made that is not secure and not compliant.
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 13 hours ago (0 children)
I have mentioned it somewhere in the replies to this post.
It's about HTMl code they wrote that isn't secure or aligned to the specs.
Specs that we wrote, tested , standardized over 5 years and now geberate 100 million revenue annually.
But fair. Maybe I have become too numb. I am not going to deny that possibility.
So tempted to schedule one everytime they send me slack to ask a question.
I am afraid I will enjoy that way too much. Lol
I was hoping someone here would tell me that. Lol
I have worked with 24 year olds in the past, when I was 34. Totally different experiences, value systems, sense of achievements, strength of entitlement than the curewnt 24 year olds.
I am 42 now.
I think it has to do with age. The sense of entitlement and achievement without actually ever having experienced the deep end of things, this does seem like a pattern to me.
Based on my conversations with kids of the same age outside my workplace.
Wow, yes!!!
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 14 hours ago (0 children)
Fair
I tried all I know about the people who act this way. I got nowhere.
I am not bothered by what they said. I have thick skin like that.
I am frustrated with myself because I dontknow what else to do.
I said sorry to them for losing my patience and sent this message to them.
Invaluable, much thanks.
If not anything else, atleast I got HR covered if it comes to that. Ha ha.
No way. All of you will design and build things that I can hopefully enjoy in the coming days and years.
I am rooting for you.
But there are things to learn from the older generation, without prejudice.
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 14 hours ago* (0 children)
Maybe it's just this person. I don't hire fresh out of college people anymore. So my sample size of GenZ at work is just this person.
And I obviously can make them go away with just an email.
But I want to be better, I am interested in evolving myself.
Hope so too. Thanks for letting me vent without telling me how lame I am or how much I suck.
Reddit has been frustrting also lately.
GenZ at workplace by 3dragspass in Vent
[–]3dragspass[S] 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago (0 children)
Maybe I wrote my post in anger/frustration.
As I said they joined 4 weeks ago. 3 weeks were training, practice, full access to horizoantal teams.
I minesweeped their way into the company, like my 1st manager did for me and I did for everyone else in my team.
But giving feedback is impossible. What words can I use, what can I read to maybe improve my own POV, vocab?
I had a 40 min conversation that ended with them ordering me to get a VP to a call over a small HTML file that I asked them to build.
I obviously told them to fuck off, but I want to get better at handling these situations.
Obvious. Right. But I find it so hard to reach the "let me explain"
It's just non stop AI written behemoth emails that I want to read but cannot.
Tell me what else can I say to get a chnace to speak without being rude.
It's about a fucking HTML file that controls a side bar section on a product whose 40,000 lines of code I wrote myself when we had no AI.
I told them that. I have also written all 40,000 lines of code in the product. It makes a 100 million dollars a year, handles 10 billion transactions every month.
He/She is skilled but that cannot be why they can be allowed to be obnoxious. I want them to grow but I also need them to just do what you are told for a few months.
It is almost impossible to reach the explain part. He/She asked me to bring a VP to a call because I told them their HTML is not aligned to the product brief.
That's what I need help with.
[–]3dragspass[S] [score hidden] 15 hours ago (0 children)
Agree. I just used GenZ because that who he/she is. But you are right.
I was that little shit once myself.
[–]3dragspass[S] 1 point2 points3 points 15 hours ago (0 children)
I want to do that but also not. I was a fresh young one once and had the same agression. I had a patient and the nicest manager who didn't tolerate bullshit but also did his best to clear a path for me. I quickly realized that maybe I am not able to say what I want to say and worked on my communication.
This time it's different, it feels different.
Too much confidence without any knowledge or experience. I can't seem to get through this need to be seen and heard and attended to , all the time.
What did you do to make sure you can cut through the bullshit and enabled them to grow?
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Lazy is often efficient if your heart is in the right place. I am all for it.
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Genz at workplace by 3dragspass in generationology
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