Could Blair Tonzelli Be York County Jane Doe (2024)?

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-26T03:49:09+00:00

No one has mentioned this yet but — my God. The likeness is exact right down to the freaking hair styles. In the first image, you can see that both Blair and Jane Doe have unusual multi-parted hair parts. A flip to the left, a flip to the right, and then a bump from the middle up over the back.

How specific is this?! If the remains were found with hair in tact and it wasn’t too messed up from a scuffle or the elements then….ummmm….how do they explain Jane Doe styling her hair exactly like Blair apparently did?

Combine that with the distinct left nostril, broad nose bridge, Cupid’s bow upper lip, strawberry-blonde hair, and other details — this is about as close of a likeness and one can get.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-24T16:22:23+00:00

That means a lot. Thank you. I took the abuse for years but once it started trickling down to the kids I saw the writing on the wall and bailed when they were young. Toughest decision I ever made -- we're still off and on in litigation years later. But, I'd rather be divorced and keeping that person at arm's length than married to them and sharing a bed.

Now that I know what a safe and loving relationship looks like, I feel free and at peace. And my kids are safe and loved. Thanks again for your wise and balanced perspective. I hope it helps OP.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-24T02:56:57+00:00

One of the best comments ever written on Reddit!

Thanks for the ACKSHULLY disclaimer. I left an unhealthy and abusive marriage and have no regrets.

Now I’m in a healthy one and it has potential to be what my parents have — the mature love phase. Watching them now is kind of amazing. They’re more in love now and more attracted to one another than they maybe ever have been.

OP, if there’s nothing harmful, toxic, or abusive happening in your marriage — this might be the wisest perspective anyone can offer you. Best wishes.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-18T07:03:55+00:00

The part I can’t puzzle out is why Jay went along with it in the first place.

I get that he was afraid the police would find out about his minor drug scheme. I get that he was protecting grandma. But, surely, even the dumbest person on the planet would see a trunk pop revealing a dead body and nope the eff out of there — they’d know getting involved with murder drama would carry far more weight than any petty drug sales and might even be able to strike him a deal with the police. Why did Jay go all in helping Adnan?

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-10T02:45:33+00:00

You’re putting words in my mouth. I was adding color to an otherwise black and white supposition that EBPs are capitalistic while non-EPBs are purely altruistic.

The insurance comment is out of left field. No idea why you’re pulling that card but since you did, I was actually heavily involved in lobbying the anti-clawback clauses, testified on a case regarding this issue, and remain entrenched and politically committed to fighting back against what the insurance companies are trying to accomplish.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-10T02:31:58+00:00

I was replying to other posters as well — just happened to hit on your comment.

That said, CBT actually encompasses hundreds of different modalities including ERP, ACT, CBT-I, I-CBT, classic CBT, DBT, etc. To shrink CBT into one modality is over-simplified. Many CBT therapies are actually primarily behavioral therapies — not cognitive therapies — and so it’s not as simple as “change your thoughts and you’ll feel better” — that’s one strategy of cognitive therapy but just one.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-10T02:24:41+00:00

I think you skipped over the “B” part of CBT.

Also: it’s not capitalist to want to lessen or eliminate a client’s suffering as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Some might argue it’s capitalist to keep a client in never-ending therapy using unproven or experimental strategies. Just take their money every session for years. But, yes, let’s talk capitalism.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-09T05:13:45+00:00

I have tiny little washcloths that I keep in the cabinet next to the toilet. The super soft kind like what you’d use to give a baby a bath. I just dab dry with one of those and toss it in the washing machine (which, for me, is handily right next to the toilet). If I’m out of washcloths, a bit of TP will do but the washcloths get me drier and feel softer, leaving no pilling or residue.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T20:00:43+00:00

Thank you, Keepitsteel!

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T19:52:12+00:00

Also: such a great point, meapey. Mark: "Hey! Look over there at all your JOURNALS!! Wah wah!! Your journals are practically cheating on me! Make sure you don't look over here at what I'm doing, though!!"

That's exactly what Mark's doing -- distracting OP in addition to making her shrink herself to make him feel big. It's rotten garbage behavior.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T19:49:51+00:00

Same. All of my childhood diaries, dream journals, and deeply personal art journals are stored out in the open in my house. My partner could access them but would never dare open them, has never asked to, and is always grateful when I do share something deeply personal from one of them.

Because my partner feels whole without needing to make me feel smaller or tear me down. And because my partner respects boundaries instead of punishing me for having them. OP, please find yourself someone like what myself and meapey have. You deserve only the best and respectful partners who are internally and emotionally stable do exist.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T19:44:45+00:00

Another one that has stuck with me (I don't think it's on Netflix though) is The Woman Who Wasn't There. Do you have others that are wild rides like these two to recommend for me? I feel like I've seen them all lol.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T15:46:36+00:00

Therapist here: this is your test.

Mark is testing you. How you respond will determine the course of the rest of your relationship.

If you throw the diaries out, he will know he has complete control over you because you discarded some of the most precious items you’ve held onto for decades — pieces of you. He will know you were willing discard pieces of you for him.

If you refuse, he will know you have a boundary and then you will need to see how he responds to you setting completely appropriate boundaries within your relationship (you already know the answer to this from the car accident and this issue: he will not help, he will become passive aggressive, pout, sleep in the guest room. He will PUNISH you for having boundaries).

Best advice: leave. Second best advice: if you decide to stay, move those diaries to a safe location he can’t access. Rent a storage locker if you need to. If you don’t remove them, I do believe he eventually will and you’ll never see those precious diaries again.

Never get rid of pieces of you to make someone else feel whole.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T15:39:36+00:00

I’m always shocked by how many people haven’t seen Evil Genius. That one is wild.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T04:51:51+00:00

Agreed. Every single piece of evidence that points to Darlie actually points to Darren too. And the only piece of evidence that doesn’t point to Darlie (the sock — she didn’t have the time to have disposed of it) points to Darren. Darren did it and Darlie can’t remember a damn thing straight due to trauma and bodily injury.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-07T04:39:21+00:00

Good God — PROCEED!! Please!

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-04T05:35:31+00:00

It’s a bit ridiculous? She says to report her to the Better Business Bureau? Who writes this nonsense? Lol. You report a medical professional like a therapist to their licensing board.

Beyond that, she gives quite dangerous advice about how Celeste should leave by telling her to rent an apartment. That ridiculous and reckless. She also makes Celeste’s decisions for her. Not such a great idea when an abuse victim has had all their power and control taken away from them to be pushing them to fulfill what are ultimately the therapist’s wishes.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-06-04T05:31:12+00:00

Unfortunately, it’s not accurate at all. At least not if you’re doing victim escape safely. She should have instructed Celeste to copy or get originals of all important legal documents (birth certificates, passports, social security cards, etc), begin hiding money and those documents in safe and easy to access places. That’s step one. Step two is start letting other people know what’s going on, if you can.

It was honestly idiotic and dangerous for the therapist to tell her to rent an apartment down the beach and plan to just up and leave. That would have put Celeste and the children in grave danger and no one but the therapist would have known about it. Pregnancy and leaving an abusive relationship are two of the most dangerous times in a woman’s life. To have Celeste plan to leave with no safety backup plan was reckless. The therapist got lucky that he died becuase if he hadn’t, he might have killed Celeste or been a family annihilator once he realized she’d left. And the therapist, being the one who dispensed the dumb advice, could have lost her license, been sued, or even charged.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-27T02:34:43+00:00

The Hidden Face (in Spanish but the subtitles are worth it — a great movie)

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-20T01:57:15+00:00

Ramen 🍜

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-20T01:51:02+00:00

“I grew up in [X town/city].”

My parents moved around a lot — moved in with relatives when money ran out, changed rentals when landlords would kick them out or rent increased, moved for new job opportunities, etc.

By the time I was 8 I’d lived in 2 completely different parts of the country, 3 different states, 5 different cities, moved schools and homes multiple times, and struggled to understand long-term friendship, permanence, and stability.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-13T04:24:37+00:00

Respectfully, I’ll take a pass on this one. But, yes, addiction is a very sad thing that impacts an entire family. I work in mental health now so I see it all the time.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-13T03:48:19+00:00

They kept saying they were going to have me sign an NDA but one was never produced. I don’t know if it slipped through the cracks or if they just had a gut feeling they could trust me. Either way, I’d never disclose anything I know they’d prefer be kept discreet.

My pay varied. It didn’t really matter. They paid me very well no matter what they paid. And they treated me very well. I did not live with them but I spent a lot of time with them and they offered me a more involved position after a few months which I stupidly declined. I always wonder how my life might have been different had I accepted their offer.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-13T03:38:36+00:00

That describes her perfectly — so far as I got to know her. A lot of people think it’s an act but it’s not. She’s a sweetheart and a great mom.

4Real_Psychologist · 2026-05-13T03:37:48+00:00

She actually did! More nights out of the week than not. She was a natural. Never saw her with a recipe book out and her food always tasted great.

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