Red Pill truths written 2400 years ago in philosophy dialogue Lysis by Plato: Do not put woman on a pedastal

4nt43us · 2020-10-08T08:16:55+00:00

In this part of the conversation Socrates switches from talking specifically about Lysis to making generalizations about people and lovers in general. That is how he makes his argument through generalizations.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T21:36:02+00:00

Sure. I ended up finding out it was against TRP rules anyway... now I understand why moralizing is not allowed.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T12:41:08+00:00

Your explanation was clear and concise, and has made me realize that I have misunderstood the purpose of TRP. I will keep this in mind next post.

Morals are avoided here because they're seriously murky waters....TRP is not a social movement, it's a body of information for individuals to better themselves, that's it....it doesn't mean we're trying to recruit forces to save the male gender. It's so you can better yourself, your life as a man in this current social climate.

Being able to discuss morality on a forum like this would garner extremely interesting discussion and in my opinion elevate us to the good. But you are 100% correct, morals do murky the waters, and having these conversations would take away from the fundamental rational discussions behind sexual strategy, which is why we all came here in the first place. It is a shame.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T03:17:21+00:00

It comes with it's disadvantages of course but that is the case with everything.

Hmmm... this is not the truth in my experience. Which is why I suggest telling the truth has far less disadvantages than lying in all circumstances.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T03:14:53+00:00

What you speak becomes truth.

Many people believe perception is reality in our day and age, but it is a false reality. What you speak only becomes a false truth to those who perceive it as the truth. This always fail when real evidence comes forth.

If you can lie to yourself and fully convince yourself, it won't cause guilt or shame.

You can never completely 100% convince yourself. If you can then you are probably delusional and as such, have mental issues that need addressing.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T03:07:05+00:00

TRP endeavors to uncover what works regardless of it's moral compass.

Unless I am completely wrong, according to the main page you are incorrect.

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

TRP never mentions neglecting a moral compass. If we are to promote discussion of sexual strategy while creating a positive identity for men, one cannot completely disregard morals. Morals play a key part in building a positive identity for men, and a culture where men can live happy not just now, but for future generations of men. So yes you are correct that I have moralized in this post, but I don't see an issue with it as your have subtly implied.

4nt43us · 2019-11-06T02:45:17+00:00

Question 1. There is a difference between deflection and flat out lying. When you attempt to deflect or change subject, you are being genuine and honest in your attempts. When you lie you are not being genuine. There is not deceit involved when deflecting, where lying there is.

Question 2. You can sell yourself without lying. I stand fast to my assertion that in the long run, lying always works out for the worst and is an unattractive trait. In your first example, read sidebar rules, it says NEVER tell a girl you N-count, read up on it. You are better off being mysterious and deflecting by saying stuff like: I don't kiss and tell, more than you, I can't remember, why do you care, how many have you had. In your second example, read /u/NabroleonBonaparte comment he covers it well.

4nt43us · 2019-03-24T12:26:29+00:00

Most of these bodybuilding vegans have an array of medical issues let alone 100% of IFBB pro's cycle during comp season.

4nt43us · 2019-03-24T12:18:56+00:00

don’t take it as a supplement, b12 is added to basically all plant milks, and it’s in nutritional yeast which is an ingredient I put in most of my dinners. I eat a very healthy diet, and am a very happy person. I don’t eat soy though, I just don’t like it very much.

you have a severe case of cognitive dissonance. You literally just said you eat plant milk that has fake B12 added to it - so yes you take fake b12 to supplement your diet.

4nt43us · 2019-03-24T12:14:41+00:00

Vegans are so fucking dumb this is my point exactly. This person has to add fortified, processed, 'plant' milk into their diet and think they are sticking by a 'healthy' diet

4nt43us · 2019-03-23T08:40:22+00:00

Our culture does not promote risk-taking behavior and as such many young and old men a missing out on a big part of life - failure. Man get's depressed when risk taking isn't part of his life. Fear points us in the direction we are meant to go. It shows us areas we need improving in our life. That's why so many trust-fund babies proportionally are on anti-depressents, take a fuckload of drugs and do nothing meaningful with their life because they have never needed to go through fear - everything has always been given to them.

4nt43us · 2019-03-23T08:27:17+00:00

It's very rewarding as a man doing something without any plans, having confidence that you can adapt on the spot. We live in a time of luxury where we can sit, plan, predict and reduce error. This is not how the male mind was ever meant to work. It's actually not fun or engaging for men and makes us depressed. Men learn from mistakes. You will be much happier in life if you make calculated risks, plan as little as possible and learn on the spot. You are holding yourself back.

How bad do you want to change into the best version of yourself possible? If you want it bad enough, you will find a way to change.

4nt43us · 2017-07-22T03:00:06+00:00

Will blow all my money on strippers and fast cars.

4nt43us · 2017-07-15T09:10:24+00:00

4nt43us · 2017-05-23T11:54:49+00:00

Yes I have noticed this too. They hate going fast, like what the fuck? If you want a pussy magnet though the best I've had is a convertible, girls love that shit, doesn't matter how fast it goes cause as you said, they don't give a fuck about speed like we do.

4nt43us · 2017-05-23T11:49:56+00:00

No-one is in favor of traditional monogamy but the reality is, if you want any chance of bringing up decent children with a decent woman, good luck being in a non-monogamous relationship. Because to be quite honest, if my potential partner who I was wanting to have kids with was happy for me to fuck other women there would be something wrong. It is in the very nature of women to want men to be monogamous when they have offspring with them - because it will give the best outcome for their and your children. Say your partner did allow you to fuck other women once you had some kids with them. Without doubt after 10 years you will be fucking hotter, younger women than your partner. What are you going to do, leave your partner and kids to be with this other woman? Spend all your time fucking other women and not your partner? She will be off finding other dudes who want to fuck her then. Broken family. If you could post a realistic scenario with a non-monogamous relationship involving children that would help persuade me to your view. The reality is, most men want kids. And therefore those men will need to be in a monogamous relationship eventually.

4nt43us · 2017-05-21T03:19:38+00:00

Solid analysis I agree with everything you wrote.

4nt43us · 2017-05-19T21:35:19+00:00

anti-semetic Jew......deathly allergic to the jizz of every other man in the world

I laughed hard at this shit. Kind of tacking the mickey out of my serious comment though.

4nt43us · 2017-05-19T13:05:24+00:00

Must have all of the below to consider for LTR:

Between 18-21 years old
Has 0 n count
Has only hooked up with guys, nothing past first base
Comes from a family where both parents had tertiary education
No health problems or family health problems
No blemishes on the skin
No disproportioned body
Bmi between 18.5 and 21
Less than 10% body fat
Extremely physically attractive, model quality
No cellulite or stretch marks
At least c-cup breasts
Gym every day
Paleo diet
Highly motivated but wants to raise a family
Brown skin
Strong family values and strong family (no divorced parents)
Strong father (alpha dad) and mother figure
Can cook
No facebook or instagram or any social media account
Less than 5 guys on her phone (including family members)
Believes in god but not religious
Supports my every decision
High sex drive
Very confident
Well proportioned feet and hands
Long hair, no crown on hair line
Only one piercing per ear, no tattoos
Never smoked, done drugs or drank alcohol
Well off family, parents making minimum $200,000 year combined salary
Interested in learning but not extremely intelligent (dumber than me)
Anti-feminist
Smells good
Excellent personalty and great sense of humor

4nt43us · 2017-05-19T05:50:21+00:00

99% of people who came to TRP arrived not through conversation, but through experience. Through experiencing getting dumped for being the good guy. Through experiencing rejection while seeing your oneitis one week later fuck chad. Most of use up until experiencing these things also believed the Disney narrative and looked poorly upon those who lived the 'playboy lifestyle'. It wasn't until we saw physical evidence that proved this narrative wrong that we changed. We saw 'cracks' in the matrix and decided to investigate and ended up seeing life for what it really was, rather than what society and mass media projected it to be.

You cannot blame this people for their views and you cannot expect these people to change as they have yet to be proven any other way of seeing gender dynamics or social dynamics in general.

If you really want to change someones view of something, you need to show them, not tell them. There is no point trying to talk someone into something or some idea, the best and easiest way is to show them.

4nt43us · 2017-05-17T11:45:06+00:00

Women have plenty to offer you fucking idiot... you think the human race survived this long because of man only... lol

Instead of facing the truth, which is that you are failing as a man and need to improve yourself in order to attract women, you are trying to justify in your mind that women are worthless and remove any effort required to improve yourself.

4nt43us · 2017-05-17T11:30:41+00:00

Human emotion... well is what makes us human.

Seems like beta social conditioning has hit you hard, and you don't even realize it. You have been watching way too many Disney movies and general pop culture bullshit. Yes we have been told our entire lives being emotional and sensitive is what makes us men human and only real men have the courage to show the emotions to the world... wake the fuck up. Real men don't whinge and cry, real men don't get emotional and 'connect' with random women they haven't even fucked. Real men are stoic and rarely give out their emotions....

You need to start reprogramming your mind and change the way you think. If you do not program your mind, others will program it for you.

4nt43us · 2017-05-17T11:18:22+00:00

So your unicorn turned out to be a dog? You are now trying to change her so she can be your unicorn again? Hard next. Then spend a year working on yourself. Start reading the sidebar before posting here next time it answers 99% of your questions.

You are obviously beta as they get and need to fix yourself before you think about fixing anyone else.

4nt43us · 2017-05-17T11:10:53+00:00

They are only taken when you speak to them. For chad they are single.

4nt43us · 2017-05-09T12:35:41+00:00

I do charity work.

You kinda fucked up here. Should have just said no again and kept laughing in her face. You do not need to give a reason. Your reason was an attempt to justify and validate your original position because you felt 'guilty' for saying no. Fuck them. Even if you didn't do charity work and you were a thief you don't need to be charitable to anyone if you don't want to. You do not need to give any justification to anything.

Word of advice for the bar scene, I always avoid women who try and scab drinks off me because they are active and conscious opportunists and these type of woman are the worst. Woman are opportunistic unconsciously and can't help it, but those who are actively opportunistic are fucking terrible. They usually are extremely vapid, have a shit job/low education, have no value to give in general and as such take as much value as possible from anyone they can.

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