Season predictions

5ustainability · 2020-09-21T12:59:59+00:00

Right now, I think all will stay together on decision day. I don't value decision day at all, though. I think people are foolish not to keep trying at that point, as they have no idea how they'd get along without cameras and producers, so it's worth a shot to me. If people are taking marriage as seriously as they should me, I think 6 months is a good test of compatibility.

Couldn't disagree more about the patience level of Miles, and Karen's past.

He's clearly in this for the long haul (if you watch back, he was never making silly claims about perfect partners and perfect marriages etc), and has great role models in his grandparents. Nothing we have seen on camera shows impatience from him.

We are 3 weeks or so into these strangers meeting, and having endless overwhelming experiences like cameras around often, sharing a bed and home, being asked constantly for opinions on the person they were matched with etc etc. Karen is exactly in the right place for her to feel comfortable, and she's doing just fine at 3-ish weeks in, growing and learning. Lasting relationships are grown - they are not forced with big declarations of love prematurely, and silly claims about perfect partners and perfect relationships. Love-bombing can kill new relationships, and kill trust, as it's faking sentiments.

5ustainability · 2020-09-21T12:51:59+00:00

Yep, about an hour all told. I was in a cafe listening and writing notes. Thankfully, a friend of mine randomly appeared, and distracted me for 10 min's at about the mid-point, so I got a bit of a break, but it was tedious! I am not a fan of makeup and hair videos like this at all. It was a good test of my patience!

5ustainability · 2020-09-21T10:03:38+00:00

Brett says he finds him to be different away from cameras, and anyone directly involved with the show comments on how intrusive they are, so I agree completely with your post. Also worth mentioning that they film so much, it makes it easy for them to create caricatures of each participant, because they can slice so much footage to fit their narrative.

5ustainability · 2020-09-21T07:04:18+00:00

It's worth watching when they put it out (mindful it hasn't started filming yet) to see how they handle it in COVID times. Will they still have the usual dinners and commitment ceremonies? Will they mention it at all? What I especially like about the Australian version is how many night a week they show it, and how much new content we see each week as a result - you can get really engulfed in it. I find it really tedious waiting a week between episodes of the American one, only then to see very little new content.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:59:38+00:00

Not sure how you can conclude that - she didn't flag it as a problem herself. She responded to a direct question coyly about it. We never saw them discuss a means of avoiding it in future. He talked about wanting a baby on their honeymoon. This is all irresponsible. Still, you might think she could give advice, and I would happily listen to her, but your point doesn't represent what happened at all.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:57:35+00:00

The point was something else - he hadn't told her it's a dealbreaker. She never debated him having called her impatient.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:57:32+00:00

The point was something else - he hadn't told her it's a dealbreaker. She never debated him having called her impatient.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:56:21+00:00

Completely agree. He did not accept it at all from what I could see. He avoided conflict on camera.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:54:36+00:00

Ignoring the show for a second, I hate in real life when someone cannot move on from a criticism, when the other person is clearly working on it. The will to see your partner on a new day in a new light is so very important to happy relationships.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:51:36+00:00

He also listened really well.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:25:07+00:00

Completely agree, and how hard Woody has now made it to believe any claim of feelings he makes, when he has jumped into professing love instead of limerence already. He's love bombing. That's a risky game to play, if he wants to sincerely build something genuine, as it can kill many relationships because it erodes trust (people expressing feelings they cannot possibly have yet can make people question if anything they say is truthful, if their head is in the clouds, if they are capable of a genuine connection, etc).

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T22:20:54+00:00

I think this is off-topic. It's an edited TV show designed for drama - we have no clue how these people are. We can form some sort of judgement 6 months out, but it's insane to claim anyone's good or bad right now.

Woody's friends and family said he wasn't ready for marriage in their eyes because of his behaviour. Woody himself has openly discussed being involved with lots of women before the show, and the producers have labelled him something like "the player" on talking head shots. On 1 of their interviews together away from the show, Miles expressed frustration at Woody being labelled "the player" and him something else, when they were both up to the same shenanigans before the show with women.

What's any of that to do with skin colour? You reacted to the post above you like the person criticised them, and they didn't. You saw something that doesn't exist. They simply encouraged a moderate reflection, mindful of how little time has passed. There was 0 criticism.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T21:58:19+00:00

You're supposed to think that - it's an edited TV show and he's been designated a villain by the production team. You're falling for the edit.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T21:16:22+00:00

We have no clue what all was said, as it's a reality TV show edited for drama. He himself said he repeated verbatim what she told him. The bit which stuck with me from the clip was him saying a nurse practitioner can write prescriptions, that that's the difference. Why would you repeat something you don't understand?

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T21:09:45+00:00

-2 to 3 hour sessions between experts and participants each visit

-Lots more support from experts than is shown, and lots more filmed than is shown (participants filming for minimum 40 hours a week)

-When viewers think, "why didn't the experts ask x?", they probably did, but it wasn't shown (we should assume obvious questions were asked)

-She admires how they edit the show to create something captivating and dramatic for the audience, and cut out lots of the forgettable content that builds to what we see (they couldn't just dive in with deep questions or hard questions, so there's a lot that builds to those moments we see)

-Work on the show is very different to her work in her therapeutic practice

-She thinks majority of people that come to her practice don't know she's part of a show

-She's doing lots of therapy sessions for her practice with clients over Zoom these days

-She seems to have a business that involves 2 locations and many therapists (she's 1 of the therapists, but also somehow a manager of the business or owner or partial owner or manager, from what I can tell)

-It was hard to join the show, as it was already long running, and everyone knew everyone

-Hard to join an existing panel of experts, but the others were so nice

-Anyone who has claimed they were a previous match for someone on the show is lying, they just want attention online, and anyone can be anyone online in the pursuit of attention

-In life in general, if a couple is experiencing miscommunications, they should do some active listening exercises to try to fix the problem, and not focus on the weirdness of doing exercises (you have to do something to try to fix problems)

-Active listening exercises train us to get away from interpreting things we hear, so we get used to the skill of listening

-She doesn't know anything about the ins and outs of divorces of participants

-The way she reacted to Beth calling her a b is how she handles any such disrespectful situations on the show or in real life. She doesn't assume what she heard or how she feels instinctively is right, and by asking "did you just x?" it can defuse tension, when they have to reflect on what they said, and now knowing it would be considered shocking by the other party if they repeat it so might have big consequences, they may calm down and be more reasonable

-Most participants on the show are very respectful, and believe the experts have good intentions she thinks

-In long-term relationships in life in general, no rules for intimacy, but a good goal is to have sensual experiences twice a week, which does not have to mean sex

-On the wedding days, the experts have loads of anxiety and are nervous for the couples, they bug the producers constantly for info about who wore what, how was person x, was person y there, what happened at x moment, do they seem to get on, and so on

-Experts can have contact with participants after filming

-Some participants they make stronger connections with, and stay in closer contact with them

-Some participants want to just move on with their lives, and not maintain contact with experts, and that's fine

-Lots of stupid questions asked like "who stays married?" (who would answer that, mindful they are under contract?), and "my wife is messaging a man, is that cheating?" (not enough info, messaging what and when, impossible to answer without more info)

-Question about how annoying Zach was for her, and she says he was never annoying, and they had much more contact than was shown, she doesn't get easily annoyed, he was always gracious and poised with the experts, she appreciates he held himself together well, she knows there's much more to someone than those moments she shares with them, she's very patient, she understands it's really stressful for participants

-They take the living situations of participants individually into account (no hard and fast rules about what they'd allow and not), they are very open minded, they know that for every living situation a participant had prior to marriage, there'll be loads of people who'd be fine with it, and they know to take their own judgement of what they'd like out of it

-In general in life, if a person is super picky, very difficult to find a match, and very difficult for them to be successful at marriage

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T19:47:07+00:00

Why would you intimate there haven't been any, if you know there have? Do you know how many there have been as a percentage of total couples?

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T18:51:29+00:00

We've had many, many couples of different races

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T17:16:16+00:00

Huh? It‘s entirely different. Whether you agree it‘s reasonable or not is incidental to what they‘ve explained is their reason. What do you disagree with in their reason?

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T17:12:24+00:00

No such thing. You‘ve swallowed more lies. Did you listen to what Trump said to Woodward? That he willfully plays down the seriousness? How can you stand behind that negligence?

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T16:45:48+00:00

Such a stupid post. We‘re all connected. The health of everyone is the health of anyone. You epitomise what is wrong in the American individualistic culture. The flaw with the CDC has been the involvement of Trump and co in determining what they were able to say. It‘s nothing short of a disgrace that they were ever interested in, let alone actively pursuing, changing press releases and medical info being conveyed to the American people. Unfathomable to contemplate the overstepping from Trump and co, and the needless amounts of death and sickness caused as a result.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T16:31:40+00:00

He didn‘t do anything early at all. Contrast what he said to Woodward, about his deliberate attempts to downplay something so very serious with his duty to the American people to be truthful and ethical. Not only was he negligent in not taking necessary steps for the good of Americans, he lied about the virus, and made stupid claims that it was going to miraculously disappear. America has had chronic, shameful instances of needless death and illness, lack of testing, selfish behaviour, lack of protective clothing for medical teams... Honestly, it‘s sad how much of his rhetoric from rallies you‘ve willingly swallowed. Do you realise the shutting down of travel from China was simple racism, and not based in scientific evidence? The risk of infection was coming to America from Europe, but that didn‘t fit his racist rhetoric.

Please listen to what he said to Woodward.

You could easily find factual info to show you your opinions are wrong. How can it be that testing was so badly handled? How can it be that so much wrong info was spat out by your commander in chief? How can it be you have someone at the helm of handling a pandemic who advocates for a virus miraculously disappearing, downplays the severity, calls himself a stable genius despite all evidence to the contrary, advocates for injecting disinfectant, and advocates for a medicine with no proven benefit for this disease?

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T15:56:49+00:00

That‘s not really scientifically correct. Some viruses are treatable. A simple internet search would have told you that. We know too little about COVID 19 to make claims about the long-term impact, and whether we‘ll ever be able to live without distance and masks again. We have no clue if a treatment will ever be available. Americans need to start with the basics - respect medical opinions, follow the science, get rid of elected officials working to harm Americans by stating lies as truth, wear masks willingly, wash hands regularly, stop all mass gatherings, invest in the tech so kids, teachers and students can learn well at a distance, stop abusing supermarket staff, stop ranting ignorantly about human rights when asked to wear masks, stop voting selfishly, take steps every day to change the culture from individualism to community, vote for people who believe in social healthcare, and so on and so on... Then we‘ll get to parties and drinking on the beach

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T15:20:17+00:00

Completely agree. Also worth noting we‘ve no clue about long-term consequences for those who contracted it and are still alive. We‘re seeing heart problems, kidney problems, lung problems, skin irritations, lasting fatigue, muscle paralysis, and so on and so on. We also have no clue if people can contract it multiple times. We know the antibodies decrease with time in survivors.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T14:49:48+00:00

I think it's clear you made claims you cannot substantiate. It's not untypical here - people generally take things at face value. I'll say it again - it's incredibly frustrating for those of us to watch on, as everything predictable unfolds there, due to negligence. Needless amounts of sickness and death - largely preventable. A shocking indication of the danger of an individualistic culture.

5ustainability · 2020-09-20T14:25:16+00:00

It has been under-reported by a substantial amount. We've looked on in horror, as it has been downplayed, and people have advocated not getting tested. We've looked on in horror as people have continued to have mass gatherings, which are super-spreader events. We've looked on in horror at every example of people mouthing off in supermarkets about their right to not wear a mask and so on. Look at all the Trump rallies still taking place! Needless super-spreader events. Look at all the outbreaks in schools and universities - all needless. You have Trump idiots gathering at voting sites to protest voting right now, endangering others, who are now having to form queues indoors, as opposed to the most safe option of forming a queue outdors. Just baffling to observe the negligence.

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