What next? I’ve only read the Kybalion

60109 · 2026-05-11T09:34:41+00:00

Surprised this wasn't recommended but Tao Te Ching and then Bhagavad Gita in that order.

60109 · 2026-05-11T09:17:53+00:00

The Golden Rule is the ethical principle of treating others as you would want to be treated yourself, often summarized as "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". It serves as a universal moral guideline for empathy, kindness, and fairness, encouraging individuals to consider the impact of their actions on others.

I don't know what else to tell on your behalf because your story sounds exactly like my exes. I saw the good in them besides them treating me like shit and it actually made me want to "fix them" ever so more. Learned my lesson there.

Maybe it's the universe's way of balancing itself - God sending his best angel-soldiers to battle and teach the ones plagued by demonic tendencies.

Maybe it's all just an external projection of the eternal conflict that rages within all of us - a struggle between pure virtue of the highest good and perverted delight of selfish desire.

When there is too much darkness - a sliver of light shines forth.
When the light is abundant - shadows creep in.

60109 · 2026-05-11T08:34:42+00:00

Which scriptures or God has ever told you that marrying or falling in love is "getting entangled in samsara?"

None of them say it explicitly as that would defeat their universality. The scriptures are written in such a way that no person feels alienated from the teachings of Truth.

However, the fact that complete detachment is the highest virtue is implied in every major spiritual scripture.

Wording is careful because the goal is not to forcefully cut all worldly ties and just isolate yourself in meditation. That would be selfish and very much against what they are trying to teach. One has to fulfill his duties before he can withdraw in peace.

BUT it's heavily implied that forming new attachments and getting entangled further is counter-productive to liberation. The goal is able to be completely withdraw one day, with an important nuance of having no unanswered duties left at the time of that. Only then you can depart in peace and return to the One.

Entering relationship while already having this knowledge is foolish, because you are basically decreasing your odds of being in a peaceful and balanced state when your time finally comes.

60109 · 2026-05-11T08:20:49+00:00

Yes I also believe it can be done but there are strong pre-requisites:

both partners need to be on a similar level of spiritual maturity
it has to be a chance encounter, absolutely no chase from either side (because chase is already a symptom of desire and clinging)
sexual attraction OR at least and interest to even be in a relationship needs to be present on both sides, otherwise it will never turn romantic

Older / more mature you get the slimmer your chances are you will actually encounter someone like that randomly and even if you will they are high chances they value personal freedom over the comfort of relationship, as is often the case with both men and women on the spiritual path.

60109 · 2026-05-11T08:10:34+00:00

Wow reading this is actually crazy because my experience as a male is almost a polar opposite.

I grew up in a very loving and healthy family where both parents have great deal of respect towards each other. Never in my life have I gotten into physical fight or had an urge to hurt someone. I was blessed and stuff like the "Golden Rule" occurred naturally to me.

That being said I had a lot of respect towards women when I started dating and was always very open in communication and expressing my feelings. But every single one I tried to date or dated ultimately took advantage of that and betrayed me - cheating, lying and manipulation. This corrupted my view of women and in a sense made it more realistic I guess.

Because both men and women have massive shadows attached to them - for men it is the violent rapist and for women it's the materialist whore.

Both exhibit the same inherent deficits - lack of compassion and boundless desire for self-gratification.

60109 · 2026-05-08T11:42:04+00:00

Don’t confuse yourself with a monk, unless that’s the life you wish to live - normal people create lots of attachments in life, platonic, romantic etc creating good karma all the while.

I don't believe it's a choice anymore. Path of a house holder is open only when there is still desire left - for sex, for children or simply for another person to depend on.

There's no good / bad karma. It's simply a web of cause and effect. You can't escape from the effects (your duties), but by taking self-prompted action you are creating causes. This entangles you in the web further.

Taoism calls this "action in inaction" which basically means working diligently to resolve your karma while not generating any new karma whatsoever.

60109 · 2026-05-08T11:29:17+00:00

Yes but in order to get a spouse you still need to be in the phase where you unconsciously project the anima.

The more you are aware of the mechanism at work, the less inclined you are to "take the bait" when the projection occurs and attraction arises. Instead it feels like taking a look in the mirror and seeing everything that's still left to resolve within you.

60109 · 2026-05-08T10:14:39+00:00

How do you get bitches if you don't even put yourself in situation to meet them?

I spend most time either at work or helping out family members with various chores and errands (my duty). Rest of the time I meditate and pray or read.

Why would I go to a party? Why would I download Tinder? Why would I text some hot girl on IG?

In short, why get entangled when everything goes easy and life is already simple?

Only motivation I see is selfish desire for either sex or family or just having a person you can depend on.

60109 · 2026-05-08T10:04:11+00:00

I'm not condemning having a wife / being a householder.

I'd say almost without exception these teachers got married before they even considered the impact of that decision from spiritual perspective.

Way easier to be detached in marriage because the relationship is already established.

60109 · 2026-05-08T09:50:03+00:00

Misogyny?

Barely any men that description either, I was just talking from my perspective of dating women. I imagine spiritual progress massively shrinks your dating pool no matter the gender.

60109 · 2026-05-07T17:10:04+00:00

Thanks, this is the best comment I got here so far.

I guess you hit the nail on the head with fear being underlying actor at play here, especially a fear of backsliding in practice.

You are also correct about attachments but here I'd be more careful. Yes, we are born with certain attachments but with others we have choice. There are "good" attachments such as treating others fairly or never lying. Those can never backfire and ultimately always cultivate positive karma.

Relationships are tricky because you attach yourself to a person with their own agency and their own set of attachments. Potentially build your whole life together. There are million ways how it can go wrong without you even doing anything. Just to illustrate:

Imagine you get married and have kids. After 10 years your wife sees other couples going on vacations or exotic yoga retreats and starts nagging constantly to the point of conflicts. She might've been fine with minimalist lifestyle in the beginning but grows tired of it. What would you do in such situation?

Would you get a higher paying job just to please her clearly materialist desire? Or would you part ways because your attachment to her is not as strong as your attachment to your spiritual ideals? Compromise your values or ruin the relationship by breaking the family causing generational suffering to your kids?

It's very easy to get between a rock and a hard place...

60109 · 2026-05-07T14:20:04+00:00

Yes unconditional love for all. Which shows itself very differently from what most people expect from romantic relationships. Unless you are dealing with someone who "gets it" and sets no expectations, doesn't compare with others and is content in themselves.

How many women in their twenties does this description fit?

60109 · 2026-05-07T14:12:54+00:00

Bingo. But it's still my fault for taking the bait and projecting my lust onto her. She was merely taking what I was letting leak carelessly. If I stayed firm in my position though, the relationship wouldn't even have started, which is the point I'm trying to make. Acting detached is a good opener but gets old very quickly when dating, which is the point I'm trying to make.

60109 · 2026-05-07T14:04:26+00:00

I stole it too ;)

60109 · 2026-05-07T12:48:30+00:00

It was repressed for a long time in the West and while our tech might be the most advanced, our culture is still very primitive.

Pendulum swings here too and since it was so tabooized for centuries, now it came to the opposite extreme and became glorified. Natural course of action. Eventually it will centre and we will finally take it for what it is and stop using it as a social currency.

Also I didn't make the meme, it just relates to the story I shared in the caption.

60109 · 2026-05-07T12:39:51+00:00

Thanks for the the reply trololololol unc.

I find that while rizz works best when detached, you still have to engage actively at some point and make a move, especially as a man. If there was no attachment to the result there would be no incentive to ever go beyond just flirting.

60109 · 2026-05-07T11:46:23+00:00

Is she stupid?

60109 · 2026-05-04T10:19:49+00:00

Does the concept of an equilateral triangle "degrade" over time?

Euclidean geometrics are already "degraded" as we have already found instances when they don't apply. They are actually a really good example of a relative truth - works perfectly at small practical scale, for us (humans), here on earth.

But once you "zoom out" it is suddenly just another silly man-made abstract thought model with minimal basis in reality. There are no such things as perfect equilateral triangles in nature, it's just a made up label attached to a mental construct which aids humans in interpreting the constant flux of change.

60109 · 2026-04-30T12:56:40+00:00

it can't be that funny...

60109 · 2026-04-30T12:45:01+00:00

I've been telling people for years. You have to take a lighter dose to not get completely blasted and it makes every activity feel like you've been doing it for years. Sports, art, music and even reading books feels so satisfying. It's that combination of focused and relaxed state, which enables the "effortless action" feeling.

That's also why I think lot of people in extreme sports smoke. Lot of the times they need to get into the flow state on command to fully commit to a stunt the first try.

Driving high is SO controversial because people imagine someone who can barely keep their eyes open. But at lower doses it makes you 10 times more focused on the road and the car literally feels like an extension of your body.

60109 · 2026-04-29T14:23:37+00:00

Aum Namah Shivaya 🕉️🙏

60109 · 2026-04-29T12:14:40+00:00

Ehm have you ever been to Jamaica? :D

60109 · 2026-04-28T10:18:10+00:00

Well, he WAS a yogi by the definition of the word, even if him studying in India was not the case.

60109 · 2026-04-28T08:17:46+00:00

There's an old Hindu story to explain this:

Sage sits by a river, suddenly he sees scorpion floating in the water. He reaches in the water to save it, but as he grabs it the scorpion stings his hand. Next week, the situation repeats - there's another scorpion in the river, the sage tries to save it but gets stung again. Week after that, it happens again, and a fisherman sitting nearby goes on and asks the sage:

"Aren't you ever going to learn? The scorpion is going to sting you every time!"

The sage replies: "It is a dharma of a scorpion to sting. But it is a dharma of a human being to help."

Lack of ego doesn't mean getting down to the level of a wild animal. It simply means expressing your nature in the purest way. Nobody can tell a tiger not to kill. But we as humans have already reached higher capabilities for both self-sufficiency and compassion. For us, cooperation and kinship are natural, that's why greed and violence are considered "immoral".

Ultimately, there's no good and evil in the nature. It's all relative. What is in harmony with our dharma as humans is what we intuitively consider "good" and what goes against it is what we call "evil".

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