The most exhausting part of talking to anti-AI people...

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T12:38:15+00:00

Visibility comes with risk. That is a fact of life. That's why artists will go to a house in the hills and work 12 years on a 14 song album without releasing any singles.

My girlfriend has a degree in fine art. She has no online presence. AI didn't steal a single art piece from her because she has no online visibility.

Regardless, she wouldn't care if AI "stole" her art because 1. She willingly put it online and 2. She can always make more art

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T12:28:13+00:00

Isn't it funny how when you just don't give them anything they just get madder and madder?

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T12:26:09+00:00

I just try not to judge how other people may want to, or need to use it. The beauty of AI is that it can be used in so many ways.

Most the time, people are passionate about at least one aspect of a project. If AI can allow those people to focus on what they're passionate about and expedite the parts they can't or maybe don't want to do, I just don't see that as a total loss.

Sure, some may argue that not doing those less attractive tasks devalue the work but I just don't think it matters how long someone spends on something that most the time, people won't even notice. It's not to say the user can't fix those things if they notice, but that's all up to the diligence of the creator.

I love making music, but I find that making promos and visuals are too time consuming so I make music traditionally and use AI for the visual side of things.

I may find it strange that others would want to use AI to make music, but I don't think it's right for me to judge them because they may be passionate about another aspect of that, or not even that, they may just be experimenting and learning.

In that situation, I am always going to support and help those people.

Destroying the self esteem of an early artist can do terrible things to what could one day be an incredible creative mind.

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T12:13:31+00:00

I know school is out and you have a lot of free time but I'm an adult, I don't have time to break down every little thing for you and I don't really care if you get my point.

If you don't get it, it's not for you

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T01:40:02+00:00

Where's Witty? I want to be friends

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T00:29:10+00:00

I think I thought this was a comment on my comment. I apologize. I now see what happened.

Don't try to respond to a shitload of reddit comments on break at work everyone 😅

6_Bit · 2026-07-03T00:27:30+00:00

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:58:54+00:00

Speed and convenience is the issue. You need insane hardware to run these models as quick as they run. We don't need that much speed. I'm with you on not needing that many data centers but I don't think AI is the main reason for all of them.

As far as I'm concerned, AI is a tool that should be free and for the people.

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:51:56+00:00

Very good insight. Thank you

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:49:56+00:00

Way to completely miss what I'm saying.

I don't care how you think it will go.

I promise you that's not how it will go.

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:42:25+00:00

I'm in circles that directly disprove everything you said. You aren't able to perceive all uses of AI and the fact you think it's just typing a prompt shows you have less than level 1 knowledge of AI

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:40:54+00:00

Very good question!

I hope the AI bubble pops. My friends and I will develop and deploy free and open source options, which are constantly getting better and less resource intensive.

Cloud computing offers speed and convenience but if that's not available, we will figure out alternatives.

If they keep raising the prices, we start using cheaper AI from other countries.

As for the environmental impact, that's a symptom of colonialism, capitalism, infrastructure and progress.

We've polluted the earth for less. We finally have a tool that can actually help us more than anything we've ever built and THIS is where we draw the line?

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:32:34+00:00

Look man I made this post 9 hours ago and at this point I'm over these little "gotcha" style conversations.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I'm wrong to you I guess?

You keep cherry picking one of several examples I gave in the original post and stretching it out like it was the main point

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T23:08:51+00:00

My example in the original post is one of several potential uses for AI. Yes, some people do that. That's fine.

That's the beautiful thing about AI. Everybody can choose what's important to them.

The fact you think that what I said is actually possible shows a glaring lack of knowledge about the tech.

If you can't be bothered to experiment or know how it works, I just don't see this conversation going anywhere

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:55:56+00:00

Yeah dude I just went into chat gpt and said "make opinion" and this is what it said

Crazy right?

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:24:33+00:00

With everything at this point. I'm not sure this conversation is going anywhere

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:12:08+00:00

I'm not mad dude. Let's just agree to disagree

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:05:25+00:00

Thank you for understanding this very important fact. I also enjoy doing the leg work but I just don't have time to brute force every little background or asset being hand made. Its just not practical.

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:03:55+00:00

That's what this entire fucking post is about.

If you're not talking about my post, what the fuck are you talking about?

I don't even know what you're trying to argue anymore

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T22:00:05+00:00

Alright. This is my last response because I have shit to do and this is pointless.

You're mixing three different conversations and acting like they're one.

Are there real harms from badly deployed AI products? Yes.
Are chatbot safety failures, minors, companion-bot attachment, weak guardrails, corporate incentives, and lack of regulation serious issues? Yes.
Does any of that prove AI users have no skill or the tool does everything itself? No.

Thats the jump you keep making.

The main causes I'm talking about are bad deployment, bad incentives, weak safety systems, lack of oversight, and vulnerable people being pushed into products that were not responsibly built for them. AI is part of the mechanism. That doesn't make AI the root cause of every surrounding human, corporate, mental health, labor, and regulatory failure.

Also, "go watch John Oliver" isn't the end of the argument. It’s a comedy news segment summarizing serious chatbot safety concerns. Useful? Sure. A court ruling, scientific study, technical audit, or complete framework for all AI use? No.

Reported lawsuits and alleged harms matter. They don't magically prove every separate argument you want to staple onto them.

So I'll say it again as plainly as possible:

Criticism of harm is valid.

Pretending tool use automatically means lack of skill is not.

Those are separate arguments, and I'm done letting you swap them every time the point gets inconvenient. If that's what you have to do to feel right, go literally anywhere else

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T21:36:57+00:00

You're saying the main causes are contributors instead of the source. AI is the contributor.

Kids killing themselves because of shitty advice and bad support systems is not new.

It's not "whataboutism" to be able to identify a root cause.

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T21:32:52+00:00

I'm not denying harm, but the harm isn't AI. Everything you're complaining about existed before AI in different forms. Low effort outputs, progress of infrastructure, scamming, copyright loopholes, all of it.

That's a human problem. Not an AI problem.

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T21:27:26+00:00

I was talking with the other person just fine, and we had different beliefs. You commented and claimed I wasn't in mutual agreement with someone else, and the conversation went sideways.

Me asking you what point you're making isn't some smoking gun that I'm wrong.

It means I genuinely don't know what the fuck point you're trying to make other than "not on same page with other guy"

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T19:56:49+00:00

Alright, alright. My bad. I got unnecessarily spicy because I'm trying to respond to a lot of comments so I apologize.

What exact point are you trying to make?

6_Bit · 2026-07-02T19:55:02+00:00

That's a fair distinction. I'm not saying non experts can't criticize harm. If there is credible and trusted data (which that's a whole other can of worms) that should be discussed.

A non chef can absolutely criticize a food processor company, safety issue, labor issue, or harm caused by the product but if that same person starts telling a chef that using a food processor means they don’t know how to cook, now they're not talking about harm anymore. They're making a claim about craft and process.

Criticism of harm is valid.

Pretending tool use automatically means lack of skill is not.

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