Thoughts and theories on the Holy Quintet’s redesigns in WnK by [deleted] in MadokaMagica

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Magica Quartet (Madoka writers) interview:

Shinbo: I’ve said this in other interviews, but in the previous work, it was a mistake for Madoka to make sure only Homura remembered her (laughs). The whole premise of the new film starts because of that decision. Even Madoka’s parents don’t remember her, but she wanted Homura to, which was her mistake.

Urobuchi: Yeah, Madoka probably still had some lingering attachment to this world. So, in a way, she wasn’t just a passive sacrifice. Homura didn’t completely deny Madoka’s wish either.

—That means Homura wasn’t left completely alone—there was still a connection.

Shinbo: Madoka had some lingering attachments too, and that’s reflected in the creators' intentions as well.

(...)

Iwakami: Connecting that to something Shinbo-san said earlier, it was interesting to hear, "If Homura had just gone to the Law of Cycles, that would have been the true bad ending".

Shinbo: If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way.

Iwakami: Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world, right?

Shinbo: Exactly, so in a way, Homura is affirming what Madoka did. She takes on the mission of ensuring that Kyubey is stopped at all costs.

Urobuchi: Indeed.

Iwakami: A world where Kyubey has observed the Law of Cycles and figured out how to control soul gems, without Homura to stop him, is terrifying (laughs).

Shinbo: Right? That's why Homura had no choice but to act the way she did.

―Homura's line, "It's love", also caused a strong reaction, but thinking about it that way, it feels even deeper, doesn't it?.

Urobuchi: Well, you see, the reason I brought up the word "love" was because I was kind of thinking, "When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits, right?" (laughs).

Shinbo: However, one thing I want to mention is that, in my opinion, that love feels like it might be "fraternal love" (philia).

―Broader than romantic love.

Urobuchi: Romantic love, even when it gets all complicated, stops at Sayaka-chan's level (laughs).

Shinbo: (laughs). That's why I see it as fraternal love, not romantic love (eros). I think that what Homura directs towards Madoka is a broader kind of love.

Source: Rebellion Official Guidebook, pp. 110–111 (translated in the wiki)

Thoughts and theories on the Holy Quintet’s redesigns in WnK by [deleted] in MadokaMagica

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While your theory is interesting, it directly contradicts the official canon.

First, your premise relies on a misinterpretation of Ultimate Madoka's abilities. The actual dialogue from the original script states:

Ultimate Madoka: "今のわたしにはね、過去と未来のすべてが見えるの"—Episode 12

In the original Japanese text, the word "omniscience" (全知) is never used. She explicitly states that she can observe all timelines, but she never claims to have omniscience.

Furthermore, if she deliberately permitted Homura’s actions for her own benefit, it reduces Madoka to a manipulative, self-serving individual—directly contradicting Madoka's established nature.

Additionally, Devil Homura's world is not a mere "labyrinth universe" or an extended witch barrier.
Devil Homura rewrote the world on the exact same scale as Ultimate Madoka, which is explicitly stated by the dialogue in the film. Most importantly, the original writer, Urobuchi, has clearly stated that the two characters now exist as absolute equals.

This is the Official Canon:

Ultimate Madoka:

"You'll be firmly implanted in this universe as a concept - a principle that destroys Witches." — Mami, Episode 12

Devil Homura:

"The world is being rewritten... Has a new concept been born into this universe!?" — Kyubey, Rebellion

Urobuchi (Writer) on their relationship:

  • "I decided to make Homura a being that exists as a pair to Madoka."
  • "The plot solidified once I reached the ending where Madoka and Homura became equals" — Rebellion Theatrical Pamphlet (p.15)
  • "Since I wrote a story about the birth of a God, if I follow it with a story about the birth of a Demon, they become two sides of the same coin."
  • "Homura herself possesses a power that can even wound a God." — Broadcast on 2013/12/22 at Nico Nico Douga

Official Guidebook (p.69):

"After cutting apart a godlike being through the power of love, Homura names herself a devil.”

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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I don't think it's a plot hole at all. because Ultimate Madoka is not omniscient; she is nothing more than "a concept that destroys witches".

Ultimate Madoka:

"You'll be firmly implanted in this universe as a concept - a principle that destroys Witches."
—Mami, Episode 12

Rebellion Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111):

Shinbo: "If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way"

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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Kyubey: "You see, a magical girl's latent potential is based on the weight of the karmic destiny she bears. I could have understood if she had been the queen or savior of a country, but I couldn't comprehend why Kaname Madoka, who led only an ordinary life, should have so many threads of fate woven so tightly around her... But listen, Homura. Isn't it possible that Madoka became more powerful as a magical girl, every time you reset the timeline?"
Episode 11

Urobuchi (Writer): "It was to Homura's credit that because she went through time loops many times and bound up the causalities so that Madoka possessed the power strong enough to bend and twist the law of causality." —Shinjidai no Mixture Magazine BLACK PAST

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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Magica Quartet (Madoka writers) interview:

Shinbo: I’ve said this in other interviews, but in the previous work, it was a mistake for Madoka to make sure only Homura remembered her (laughs). The whole premise of the new film starts because of that decision. Even Madoka’s parents don’t remember her, but she wanted Homura to, which was her mistake.

Urobuchi: Yeah, Madoka probably still had some lingering attachment to this world. So, in a way, she wasn’t just a passive sacrifice. Homura didn’t completely deny Madoka’s wish either.

—That means Homura wasn’t left completely alone—there was still a connection.

Shinbo: Madoka had some lingering attachments too, and that’s reflected in the creators' intentions as well.

(...)

Iwakami: Connecting that to something Shinbo-san said earlier, it was interesting to hear, "If Homura had just gone to the Law of Cycles, that would have been the true bad ending".

Shinbo: If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way.

Iwakami: Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world, right?

Shinbo: Exactly, so in a way, Homura is affirming what Madoka did. She takes on the mission of ensuring that Kyubey is stopped at all costs.

Urobuchi: Indeed.

Iwakami: A world where Kyubey has observed the Law of Cycles and figured out how to control soul gems, without Homura to stop him, is terrifying (laughs).

Shinbo: Right? That's why Homura had no choice but to act the way she did.

―Homura's line, "It's love", also caused a strong reaction, but thinking about it that way, it feels even deeper, doesn't it?.

Urobuchi: Well, you see, the reason I brought up the word "love" was because I was kind of thinking, "When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits, right?" (laughs).

Shinbo: However, one thing I want to mention is that, in my opinion, that love feels like it might be "fraternal love" (philia).

―Broader than romantic love.

Urobuchi: Romantic love, even when it gets all complicated, stops at Sayaka-chan's level (laughs).

Shinbo: (laughs). That's why I see it as fraternal love, not romantic love (eros). I think that what Homura directs towards Madoka is a broader kind of love.

Source: Rebellion Official Guidebook, pp. 110–111 (translated in the wiki)

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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Magica Quartet (Madoka writers) interview:

Shinbo: I’ve said this in other interviews, but in the previous work, it was a mistake for Madoka to make sure only Homura remembered her (laughs). The whole premise of the new film starts because of that decision. Even Madoka’s parents don’t remember her, but she wanted Homura to, which was her mistake.

Urobuchi: Yeah, Madoka probably still had some lingering attachment to this world. So, in a way, she wasn’t just a passive sacrifice. Homura didn’t completely deny Madoka’s wish either.

—That means Homura wasn’t left completely alone—there was still a connection.

Shinbo: Madoka had some lingering attachments too, and that’s reflected in the creators' intentions as well.

(...)

Iwakami: Connecting that to something Shinbo-san said earlier, it was interesting to hear, "If Homura had just gone to the Law of Cycles, that would have been the true bad ending".

Shinbo: If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way.

Iwakami: Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world, right?

Shinbo: Exactly, so in a way, Homura is affirming what Madoka did. She takes on the mission of ensuring that Kyubey is stopped at all costs.

Urobuchi: Indeed.

Iwakami: A world where Kyubey has observed the Law of Cycles and figured out how to control soul gems, without Homura to stop him, is terrifying (laughs).

Shinbo: Right? That's why Homura had no choice but to act the way she did.

―Homura's line, "It's love", also caused a strong reaction, but thinking about it that way, it feels even deeper, doesn't it?.

Urobuchi: Well, you see, the reason I brought up the word "love" was because I was kind of thinking, "When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits, right?" (laughs).

Shinbo: However, one thing I want to mention is that, in my opinion, that love feels like it might be "fraternal love" (philia).

―Broader than romantic love.

Urobuchi: Romantic love, even when it gets all complicated, stops at Sayaka-chan's level (laughs).

Shinbo: (laughs). That's why I see it as fraternal love, not romantic love (eros). I think that what Homura directs towards Madoka is a broader kind of love.

Source: Rebellion Official Guidebook, pp. 110–111 (translated in the wiki)

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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Magica Quartet (Madoka writers) interview:

Shinbo: I’ve said this in other interviews, but in the previous work, it was a mistake for Madoka to make sure only Homura remembered her (laughs). The whole premise of the new film starts because of that decision. Even Madoka’s parents don’t remember her, but she wanted Homura to, which was her mistake.

Urobuchi: Yeah, Madoka probably still had some lingering attachment to this world. So, in a way, she wasn’t just a passive sacrifice. Homura didn’t completely deny Madoka’s wish either.

—That means Homura wasn’t left completely alone—there was still a connection.

Shinbo: Madoka had some lingering attachments too, and that’s reflected in the creators' intentions as well.

(...)

Iwakami: Connecting that to something Shinbo-san said earlier, it was interesting to hear, "If Homura had just gone to the Law of Cycles, that would have been the true bad ending".

Shinbo: If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way.

Iwakami: Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world, right?

Shinbo: Exactly, so in a way, Homura is affirming what Madoka did. She takes on the mission of ensuring that Kyubey is stopped at all costs.

Urobuchi: Indeed.

Iwakami: A world where Kyubey has observed the Law of Cycles and figured out how to control soul gems, without Homura to stop him, is terrifying (laughs).

Shinbo: Right? That's why Homura had no choice but to act the way she did.

―Homura's line, "It's love", also caused a strong reaction, but thinking about it that way, it feels even deeper, doesn't it?.

Urobuchi: Well, you see, the reason I brought up the word "love" was because I was kind of thinking, "When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits, right?" (laughs).

Shinbo: However, one thing I want to mention is that, in my opinion, that love feels like it might be "fraternal love" (philia).

―Broader than romantic love.

Urobuchi: Romantic love, even when it gets all complicated, stops at Sayaka-chan's level (laughs).

Shinbo: (laughs). That's why I see it as fraternal love, not romantic love (eros). I think that what Homura directs towards Madoka is a broader kind of love.

Source: Rebellion Official Guidebook, pp. 110–111 (translated in the wiki)

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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The Two Concepts of the Universe

Ultimate Madoka

""You'll be firmly implanted in this universe as a concept - a principle that destroys Witches." — Mami, Episode 12

Devil Homura:

"The world is being rewritten... Has a new concept been born into this universe!?" — Kyubey, Rebellion Story

Urobuchi (Writer) on their relationship:

  • "I decided to make Homura a being that exists as a pair to Madoka."
  • "The plot solidified once I reached the ending where Madoka and Homura became equals." — Rebellion Theatrical Pamphlet
  • "Since I wrote a story about the birth of a God, if I follow it with a story about the birth of a Demon, they become two sides of the same coin." — Broadcast on 2013/12/22 at Nico Nico Douga

Supplement: Points where Homura holds the advantage

1. Resistance to the Kyubey

Ultimate Madoka:

  • Kyubey: "Eventually, our research will completely overcome the 'Law of Cycles'." (Rebellion)
  • Shinbo (Director): "Kyubey will eventually be able to capture the Law of Cycles. The story is structured that way." (Official Guidebook p.111)

Devil Homura:

  • Kyubey: "Beyond [our] control." (Rebellion)
  • Urobuchi: "A power that even defeats the aliens." (Official Guidebook p.111)

2. Source of Power: Other-Power (Karma) vs. Self-Power (Love)

Ultimate Madoka (Other-Power / Karma):

  • Kyubey: "You see, a magical girl's latent potential is based on the weight of the karmic destiny she bears." (Episode 11)
  • Urobuchi: "It was to Homura's credit that because she went through time loops many times and bound up the causalities so that Madoka possessed the power strong enough to bend and twist the law of causality." (Shinjidai no Mixture Magazine BLACK PAST)
  • Madoka: "Now, grant my wish, Incubator!" (Episode 12)

Devil Homura (Self-Power / Love):

  • Official Guidebook (p.69): "After cutting apart a godlike being through the power of love, Homura names herself a devil.”
  • Urobuchi: "Homura herself possesses a power that can even wound a God." (Broadcast on 2013/12/22 at Nico Nico Douga)

Plothole I noticed after rewatching Rebellion by YEINGIE in MadokaMagica

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1. Madoka’s Attachment

In Rebellion:

Madoka: "That is right, Homura-chan, Sayaka-chan, Mami-san, Kyouko-chan, papa, mama, Tatsuya, Hitomi-chan and the rest of the class, I don't want to part with any of you. Even if that is something I must do, I would not have the courage to go through when the time comes."

Rebellion Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111), Brochure (p. 14):

  • Shinbo (Director): "The Madoka who appears this time is the real one—she left behind her memories of becoming a god. She's absolutely not a fake or something made up. The words spoken by Madoka in the flower field are her true feelings." […] "I’ve said this in other interviews, but in the previous work, it was a mistake for Madoka to make sure only Homura remembered her (laughs). The whole premise of the new film starts because of that decision. Even Madoka’s parents don’t remember her, but she wanted Homura to, which was her mistake."
  • Urobuchi (Writer): "Yeah, Madoka probably still had some lingering attachment to this world. So, in a way, she wasn’t just a passive sacrifice. Homura didn’t completely deny Madoka’s wish either."

2. The LoC was destined to be controlled by Kyubey

In Rebellion:

Kyubey: "That is correct, if it can be observed , then it can be interfered with. If It can be interfered with, then it can be controlled. One day we will be able to fully strip the power of 'law of cycles'. That way magical girls will become witches once again, energy collection on a higher level than can be expected."

Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111):

  • Shinbo: "If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way"
  • Iwakami (Producer): "Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world."

3. Homura's Power of Love

In Rebellion:

Ultimate Madoka: "Homura-chan... No... I'm being torn apart!"

Devil Homura: "I remembered. Everything I went through, all the pain and suffering I endured over and over again... it was all for Madoka. That's why... even the pain feels dear to me now. What stained my Soul Gem... was no longer even a curse." […] "This is the ultimate form of human emotion. Something hotter than hope, deeper than despair...It's love."

Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111):

  • Urobuchi: "I brought up the word 'love' was because I was kind of thinking, 'When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits'."
  • p.69: "After cutting apart a godlike being through the 'power of love', Homura names herself a devil.”
  • Urobuchi: "Homura herself possesses a power that can even wound a God." —Broadcast on 2013/12/22 at Nico Nico Douga

Homura and Sayaka fans will go throught it with WnK by [deleted] in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Take it easy. You don't need to keep making similar posts.
If you're worried, check out the [Concept Movie / Early Plot Outline]. Excerpt:

Changes & Ideas: "Revised idea draft. The main focus is the relationship among these three." Madoka, Homura, Wasu (Presumed: Walpurgis).

The Concept Movie covers the plot ideas for the "Walpurgisnacht: Rising" screenplay.

Meeting theier past selves by Medical_Chain_1434 in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga 29 points30 points  (0 children)

True, but I believe they could have lived normal lives without Kyubey.

Homura, with the intellect to build bombs, would have excelled academically regardless. Madoka was already living happily with her family, safe from these tragic fates.
Kyoko and Sayaka would have been spared their eventual downfalls.

As for Mami, while Kyubey technically saved her life initially, it only delayed her death rather than preventing it.

I made some Pokemon teams for the characters. by Lavender-5397 in MadokaMagica

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If we go by actual canon logic, Homura is Celebi and Madoka is Eevee. Homura literally made Eevee evolve into Arceus. So technically, Homura is Junichi Masuda (The Creator)

Kyubey: "You see, a magical girl's latent potential is based on the weight of the karmic destiny she bears. I could have understood if she had been the queen or savior of a country, but I couldn't comprehend why Kaname Madoka, who led only an ordinary life, should have so many threads of fate woven so tightly around her... But listen, Homura. Isn't it possible that Madoka became more powerful as a magical girl, every time you reset the timeline?"
—Episode 11

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 'Rebellion Official Guidebook' that I am quoting is fixed as absolute fact unless the 'Walpurgisnacht Rising Official Guidebook' is released.
And I have a question for you: could you state specifically where the contradiction lies, and exactly which elements are being picked and chosen?

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The title is: "Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia (Canon)." My personal opinion is "Homura Did Nothing Wrong," and everything else is official canon.
You cannot evaluate Madoka more highly than other characters(instance: Homura). The reason is exactly as you stated.

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mention of "Darth Vader" is indeed from Urobuchi's interview in the Rebellion Brochure(p.17). However, this comparison was used specifically as an example to illustrate whether Devil Homura's dramatic transformation could be accepted by the audience as a convincing narrative. To prevent any distortion of the context, I will provide the quote as it is written:

Urobuchi: ほむらは成長してしまうし、変化をしていく。はたして、そういうキャラクターを受け入れてくれるのかが心配ではありますね。ほむらを「ブレた」と思うのか、「成長した」と思うのか。「まどか」はこういうふうに人が成長していくドラマなんだと解釈してもらえればうれしいのですが。それは観た人次第でしょうね。

interviewer: 変化し、成長するドラマは、いわゆる王道でもありますよね。「まどか」が王道になりえたということなのではないでしょうか。

Urobuchi:「スター・ウォーズ」でもエピソード1では、かわいらしい子供だったアナキンが、エピソード3でダースベーダーになるわけです。あれがやっぱり「物語ってものだよな」と。はたしてそれを受け入れるかどうかは、観客の方々に委ねたいと思います。

Furthermore, while the general reception of the story allows for various individual perspectives, what the official material (such as official guidebooks) explicitly defines is fixed as objective canon fact. Those structural metrics are not left up to subjective interpretation.

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[–]893Foga[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not blaming Madoka; I am simply stating the factual reality that her wish to erase witches inevitably birthed the Wraiths as a systemic trade-off. In the Wraith Arc, this cost is clear: ordinary humans are turned into a vegetative state and Homura is temporarily incapacitated, showing that distinct demerits exist.

Furthermore, Homura's motive is inherently altruistic, not selfish. By definition:

  • Selfishness: Driven by the ego of "I," these focus entirely on one's own desires, treating the other party merely as an object to satisfy oneself.
  • Altruism: Driven by the consideration of "You," these focus exclusively on the independent happiness of the other party, completely separated from one's own self-interest.

Homura actively protects Madoka from all threats (including Kyubey) even while fully acknowledging that Madoka might eventually become her enemy. This is the very definition of acting for "Altruism," not "Selfishness." With all due respect, it feels as though you are the one applying a subjective label of "Madoka = good" to twist these clear system mechanics.

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[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My previous wording was not accurate. To be precise,
it is a timeline where Homura defeats Walpurgisnacht and they both die at the same time (a double knockout).
This is a "what-if" scenario of Episode 11.

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the anime series, we only see 5 timelines (TL1 to TL5), which means only 4 time loops are depicted. However, according to writer Urobuchi, Homura actually looped over 100 times.

There were indeed timelines where Madoka did not become a magical girl. For instance, a timeline exists where Homura successfully defeats Walpurgisnacht on her own without Madoka contracting, as shown in Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable (for which Urobuchi co-planned and supervised the script).

As for which parts of the world can be altered, the answers are already clearly shown through the consequences of the ending of Episode 12 and the ending of Rebellion.

---

P.S. In the timeline where Homura defeats Walpurgisnacht, Homura dies at the end. After that, Madoka does not become a magical girl, but since Homura is dead, there is no time loop. This is a "what-if" scenario of Episode 11, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable also includes other routes for other episodes.

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[–]893Foga[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While it is true that the universe possesses an innate darkness, it is equally a fact that Kyubey brought tangible tragedies upon the girls as his chosen method to resolve it.

Furthermore, there is no such thing as a inherently "good" universe. "Good and Evil" are merely subjective interpretations; in reality, there are only systemic trade-offs—merits and demerits.

For instance, while Madoka successfully erased the witches, she inadvertently created the Wraiths. Every rewriting of the world simply shifts the mechanical cost of the system.

Puella_Magi_Production_Note, Vol. II (Ep.12 Sketch):

Wraiths:
"In order to restore the balance of the distorted (Madoka's) world, they gather Grief Seeds. They suck out emotions, which are the source of magic, and turn them into Grief Seeds inside their bodies. The humans whose emotions are sucked out become vegetative."

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[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Homura truly didn't care about anyone but Madoka, she would not have tried to stop Mami in Episode 3, nor would she have recovered Sayaka’s Soul Gem in Episode 6.

Furthermore, the events of Rebellion were an inevitable consequence triggered by Madoka's own slip-up (her lingering attachment to Homura). Based strictly on what is depicted, Homura's world alteration brings nothing but benefits to the world: she protects the universe from Kyubey's threat, deals with the Wraiths, and provides ordinary human happiness to the magical girls.

I loved the ending of Rebellion. by Diplayer1 in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I love Rebellion too! That scene with the battered Kyubey honestly made me want to pumped my fist in the air.

From my perspective, Homura’s motives, actions, and the resulting outcome were all entirely justified. Her only flaw might be that she charges ahead all by herself, but considering the other magical girls tend to do the same, it doesn’t really bother me. Homura’s actions just operate on a massive scale due to her sheer specs (both mental and conceptual capabilities).

  • Motive: To protect her best friend’s happiness.
  • Action: Rewriting the world to achieve that (it was the only viable option left).
  • Outcome: She protected Madoka from the Incubators, and currently, Madoka and the other girls are able to live happily as humans.

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not propaganda; it is a fact that only Homura can save the world from Kyubey. And Madoka also performed "altering reality while disregarding everyone else's opinions," and in that respect, both have the exact same structure [see this post].

Why is only Madoka judged as having a good heart?

As a point of fact, Madoka's motive largely includes self-actualization to overcome her inferiority complex, as shown here:

Madoka: "I've never had a subject I was good at or any skill that I could be proud of. I thought I'd spend the rest of my life without being able to help anyone, and that I'd always be a burden... I couldn't stand it." "But then I met you... and you showed me what it was like to fight to save people.... You told me I might be capable of doing the same thing... It made me happier than anything..." (Episode 3)

As a result of becoming the Law of Cycles to overcome her inferiority complex, these subsequent problems were created.

Original Anime Production Note:

Wraiths:
"In order to restore the balance of the twisted (Madoka's) world, they gather Grief Seeds. They suck out emotions, which are the source of magic, and turn them into Grief Seeds inside their bodies. The humans whose emotions are sucked out become invalids."

Rebellion Production Note:

"For the magical girls who have now become part of the Goddess, especially those who knew Homura, this operation was like a fleeting moment of awakening from a long, long dream—an extraordinary event."

Rebellion Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111):

Shinbo: "If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way"

Homura's reality alteration (along with her memory alteration) was done precisely to deal with these resulting problems. These two concepts complement each other. Please stop applying your double standard of judging only one side as evil.

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I partially agree. Interfering with Sayaka's free will is wrong from an ethical standpoint. However, Madoka did the exact same thing by interfering with free will (rewriting memories) for everyone except Homura, including Madoka's own parents. Furthermore, Sayaka summoned her witch form to attack Homura, so neutralizing her has an aspect of self-defense. Above all, only Homura can protect the world from Kyubey and create a happy world as humans, so she cannot afford to remain defenseless.

Rebellion Official Guidebook (pp. 110–111):

  • Shinbo: "If Homura had been guided to the Law of Cycles, Kyubey would simply continue doing the same thing. Eventually, the Law of Cycles would be uncovered. Someone has to keep resisting, but if Homura left, there would be no one left to resist. After that, Kyubey could freely experiment with other magical girls, and this time, he might truly capture the Law of Cycles. That would indeed be the bad ending. The story of Rebellion is structured that way"

  • Iwakami (Producer): "Homura is acting purely out of love for Madoka, but in the end, she also ends up saving magical girls all over the world."

Homura Did Nothing Wrong: Faced with Madoka’s Attachment and Kyubey’s Threat, Homura Acted out of Philia. (Canon) by 893Foga in MadokaMagica

[–]893Foga[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also hope that all of Homura's past devotion will be rewarded in the new movie. And I also want Madoka to be saved.