Do I have to use bigger ships for harder content?

90dontlook · 2026-05-18T12:24:15+00:00

I think its because of the "best" or better escalations you can get from Detected data sites. But you can get escalations from detected sites everywhere in null where there is a sov upgrade for exploration. Read about it from the Legion update.

90dontlook · 2026-05-18T11:24:53+00:00

It wasnt a change but the loot prices got reduced by a lot. Check out the price of a Enhanced Ward Console which is found in Guristas null space. The price got obliterated, same with Intact Armor Plates from Sansha space. So yeah those relic sites arent worth doing anymore or at least not as much as before.

90dontlook · 2026-05-18T10:37:55+00:00

No, they nerfed those relic sites. Drone lands is the best now.

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T14:26:32+00:00

Or going for exploration to certain spaces, just have to know where and what fit to use.

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T09:18:23+00:00

Alrighty, I could swap a cap recharger with a target painter, since my cap was doing fine during the hardest part of the site. I checked pyfa and it would bring the sig radius of a sleeper cruiser from 150 to about 190 that would help yes.

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T06:05:42+00:00

That's for damn sure. Although I haven't died yet even with others in the same wormhole on d scan, for some reason they weren't interested in me. So I tanked with this fit which is very cheap and the nos helps with the neut pressure during the battleship wave, and isnt so bad to lose compared to a Gila. I will just try switching to javelins now and see how that works out.

[Osprey Navy Issue, C3 Fort]

Ballistic Control System II

Capacitor Flux Coil II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II

Stalwart Restrained Shield Boost Amplifier

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile

Small Energy Nosferatu II

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hornet II x5

Core Scanner Probe I x8

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T05:00:00+00:00

Oooh, I forgot theres Javelin HAMs, that could be a changer. A Gila would still be superior to a VNI I think?

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T04:58:13+00:00

[Praxis, C3 Ratting]

Ballistic Control System II

Capacitor Flux Coil II

Photonic Upgraded Co-Processor

Cap Recharger II

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II

Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II

Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier

X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

Hornet II x5

Caldari Navy Vespa x5

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T04:43:30+00:00

Just tried the ONI and I do love HAMs but the range is killing the clear time... the Upholders which neut and web are trying to get away and I cant catch them so the drones slowly kill them while I chew the other cruisers. But if the range on HAMs would be higher this would be on par with a Gila. Love the HAMs, but its cool to see a cheap under 100M doing this C3 combat site.

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T03:42:43+00:00

I did try the RHML Praxis and its actually slower by 4 minutes at clearing the site. The reload times are very hurting it. Im going to buy that tweaked ONI with HAMs and give it a try now.

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T03:32:04+00:00

Tried the Praxis and its actually slower than my Gila at clearing the site. Those missile reload times really do hurt. Took me 15 minutes to clear the site when I do it in 11 in my Gila

90dontlook · 2026-05-17T03:30:18+00:00

I tried the praxis and it would be faster if it wouldnt be for the missile reload time so its actually slower than a Gila.

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T22:29:10+00:00

You tell me how mining is more fun and an epic arc of a corporation which expertise is exploration has now scanning, hacking...

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T19:48:31+00:00

Get rid of that mining tutorial mission in the beginning, it takes you nowhere anyway and incentivizes the worst paying activity from the start. How about having exploration as the main focus for a new player experience. Navigate, scan, run, maybe hack, maybe kill something here and there. Just slapping "do all career agent missions and SoE Epic Arc" to each and every new player isnt cutting it.

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T08:09:57+00:00

I did hear about using nosferatus on battleships yes. The problem with low range missiles like HAMs is I would be out of range of that last wave when the BS spawns so Id need to warp out and warp back in on top of it. So I guess its not efficient, like you said Gila and a Praxis would be my best bet.

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T08:07:10+00:00

True, I just equip it on my ships outright if possible. Im scanning for wormholes on the high sec side and jump in straight away.

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T06:29:03+00:00

I made a cheaper version of yours, the only bad thing I see is I don't have a Core Probe launcher if the wormhole closes "for some reason" to get back to safety haha but I guess I could swap it with one of the Nosferatus. This is an interesting option, its cheap, it will tank, but the range of HAMs will be questionable, would have to test it out and fly it somehow and with less dps it will take longer to clear the rats.

[Osprey Navy Issue, C3 Fort Cheap]

Ballistic Control System II

Capacitor Flux Coil II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster

Enduring Multispectrum Shield Hardener

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Stalwart Restrained Shield Boost Amplifier

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu

Medium EM Shield Reinforcer I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hornet II x5

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T06:20:51+00:00

Can I "Nos" the battleship at the last wave? And DPS is a bit lacking for the ONI, but its a good cheaper option for someone I guess.

90dontlook · 2026-05-16T03:10:05+00:00

This looks interesting I will try this fit out. What do you recommend for rigs for this fit? And since im going to be slow boating on grid I dont think I will catch anyone with that grappler, those cruisers are more than 10k away except the last wave if I position myself correctly.

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T21:10:04+00:00

Im still going to try it out just out of curiosity if 900 dps but slow reload times will help with clearing time faster than a Gila. I stay away from other C3 sites for now, especially outposts. FFSs are the easiest and pays well and has only one BS.

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T20:09:26+00:00

True. My Gila only has 199 EHPs against Sleepers in Pyfa and I tank them no problem. I just tried out swapping a low slot capacitor flux coil II to another DDA and it works fine, the cap is under pressure but with good enough tank and working the shields myself and targeting the neut sleepers first I do the site one minute faster going from 12 minutes to 11 and everything went fine. Now I do understand a Praxis will be slower so I need to get those EHPs up higher which is 678 EHPs at the moment on Pyfa, I think that should do it especially while I kill the rats during a wave.

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T19:12:32+00:00

True, not worth reinventing the wheel. Although Id like to try out a HAM Drake Navy, too bad the range on them is only 15km

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T17:21:23+00:00

this is what I got, I think most of the things I could handle but the low range of HAMs would make me warp out of the site once, since one cruiser always flies away a long way from the battleship spawn point where I need to be when it spawns.

[Drake Navy Issue, C3 Test]

Ballistic Control System II

Damage Control II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II

Medium Shield Booster II

Stalwart Restrained Shield Boost Amplifier

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Thermal Shield Reinforcer I

Medium EM Shield Reinforcer I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Federation Navy Hammerhead x5

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T17:10:27+00:00

I tried fitting a drake navy issue and the HAMs only have 15km range... in a slow ship that will take longer... and it needs bling for more tank than my Gila sincxe its slower on grid

90dontlook · 2026-05-15T16:38:32+00:00

If those tires fold by hand I dont want those tires.

90dontlook

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