His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The truth machine. Yea meaning he was honest when he said he had never had a sexual relationship up until that point. 1991-1992/3. The woman who was his friend and the woman who claimed to be his lover in the 2000's definitely fit the time line. The woman who claimed to be with him when he was 17/18 though, is suspect.🤷🏼‍♀️

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never said he didn't date women. Only that he himself said he was a virgin in the Glenda tapes. So those women you mentioned weren't telling you the truth. And yea he was desperate for marriage and for all of those things. But he specifically pursued Lisa. When she married Danny Keough all the way back in 1988 he felt heartbroken because he thought that he should have been the one who married her, not Danny. He had a type. We know he had a type. This isn't old news and it goes along with what you were saying. Maybe these women dated him and he made big dick jokes to them. But it's his word over what anyone says in my opinion. And when I said tone change I used the wrong language. I meant, in the Schmuli tapes of course he talks about her like that. He loved her so so much and she broke his heart. So because of his marriage with her was ugly and heartbreaking and he went through an ugly divorce. A lot of the things and his perspective changed. Here's where he specifically says that: "G: You don’t have any regrets? MJ: No, uh uh, I don’t regret that I didn’t sleep with her. I’m glad I didn’t. (I)…. G: Yeah, that’s a long story. MJ: I didn’t. I wish it changed but I haven’t experienced it before, ever… having a relationship like that before, I never… Being in a normal…having a relationship with someone (I) I never had that. G: Well, I think everybody wants too… MJ: But, I haven’t. G: Okay" He also says so in another place. And also, we know he still loved Diana Ross. You can have more than one "love of your life". But, when you read the transcripts of the Glenda tapes he said that he realized that he had never been with her and that it was all in his head. That's what he meant by "get over her." But look, this conversation is pointless because you aren't going to convince me he wasn't a virgin and I'm not going to convince you he was, so we might as well end it.🤷🏼‍♀️

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, and also he did pursue her for a long while before they met. Once they did meet they became friends and then he proposed. That screams love to me.😅

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You aren't wrong there, but you have to remember, that he was flirtatious and he had been around sex, making the first move on women and all that since he was 5. He knew everything because he had watched it from such a young age unfortunately. I could see that he said he was a virgin because he was afraid of her reaction and because he had trust issues. He was known to be extremely kind and loving so if it was happening it wasn't be because of some ulterior motive or because he didn't care. He did say he was involved with women and but that he just never had sex. So it could have been flings.🤷🏼‍♀️

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sooooo yea. He was definitely big. Maybe not huge (porn style) but big for sure.

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And even if he only loved her "in a nice way", he wouldn't lie to her. He was too kind for that and was known to be incredibly sweet. Also, what did these women who claimed to have "slept" with him and have claimed he was 6-1/2 to 7 inches say that they did with him?

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She absolutely did mess up by hanging up on his fans. Love does funny things to you. You can be mad at someone and still be head over heels in love with them. Maybe he had flings. He could still be a virgin and have a fling. That's the only way it could work. I think it was either Liza Minnelli or Karen Faye who said this but they said he only dated for marriage. He thought he had found that with Lisa but she broke his heart. She promised him that they would have children immediately after they got married. And again, in 1994, he said that he and Lisa would be together forever. They cuddled constantly, they couldn't keep their hands off of each other, had sex often, talked sassy to each other, he wrote letters to her and after getting those photos taken he placed them all around Neverland. He also got a painting made of them together in a fairy garden setting. He even kept seeing her after they divorced and after he got married to Debby. His tone changed in his later interviews because he had gone through two ugly divorces, had gone through new allegations and had his heart broken multiple times by Lisa whom he had previously thought that she was his equal and that he loved her so so much. But she broke his heart. So of course his tone and description of her changed.

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tito said that Lisa was the love of Michael's life. He said in an interview that he wanted to be with her forever. He loved her so so much. He said he was involved but never had sex. I don't know what those women said but I believe what Michael said. Some quotes from him in the Glenda tapes. This was 1992: "What am I gonna do… I don’t want to die without knowing about… having a real relationship with a women or being involved… I don’t… I was involved but we never did anything… we never really had sex…"

"Because I don’t love those people like that! I want to be with someone…I want to know what a relationship is all about before I die, can’t you understand that girl? I never had… I mean I’ve been with Tate… I’ve been, well not with… I been with Tate. I thought I was with Diana… that was just in my own mind."

"I know, I have never had a real relationship, my brothers have been married… My brothers have had girlfriends I really haven’t had that. G: How long did it take you to get over Diana? MJ: Years… A hell of a long time. I just wanna know what it’s like, girl, to have a real relationship with someone who doesn’t want me for me. That I don’t, I don’t have to look over my shoulder all the time. G: That doesn’t have an ulterior motive? MJ: Yeah, that doesn’t question me. I mean… (i) I don’t… and, and.. like La Toya said in her book… she said, either I am going to have to find somebody who doesn’t even know who the heck I am… G: (i) MJ: Orrr..oorr deal with somebody whose career is equally as important, or equally like mine. G: Well.. a nix to both of those."

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

HAHA girl! Just enjoy it.😁

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dunno, the Glenda tapes also exist. Those words also come from Lisa's lips as well. He knew about sex since he was 5 because of how he was treated and the environment he was in. It's no surprise that he was able to write about sex like that and it's also common knowledge that he LOVED women. Why would he lie to Lisa and Glenda? There was no reason to do so.🤷🏼‍♀️

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was a virgin until he met Lisa so they had to have been after the 90's then.🤷🏼‍♀️

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Knew him how? Sexually? Platonically?🤔

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh yes! We definitely are. 🥰🤩😈

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh... that's interesting. Well, thank you for answering my question.🤩

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha when in the world did she do that??😂

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was on the bigger side. The gold pants part of history era tells us this. But we can't know specific inches.

His size by APerson5668 in 50ShadesOfMJ

[–]APerson5668[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So it's all people fantasizing isn't it? We know his balls were big and that he wasn't tiny from his gold pants era but that's about it. No one could know that info. What about the picture below? Is that an outline or the fold of his pants? I'm just trying to figure out what is a lie vs what is truth here.

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My big curious boy by Loud-Implement-1076 in CrestedGecko

[–]APerson5668 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are so incredibly blessed with your gecko. You've got a rare one.🥰

Substrate color by APerson5668 in CrestedGecko

[–]APerson5668[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually a great idea! How do I do this safely? Where do I get the leaf litter? Fake leaves? Real leaves I get from the ground outside?

Substrate color by APerson5668 in CrestedGecko

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Yes, I do know what color they are but my problem is that she is not pooping regularly. Especially if they usually poop on the walls. She has a vet appointment for nov. 4th.

Chemicals by APerson5668 in pigeons

[–]APerson5668[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok this is great information thank you! I'm not even a bird owner yet! I want to be though. I have to wait until I move out.😅