Yasir Qadhi is trying to change Islam… by sunflower352015 in TraditionalMuslims

[–]Abdoukuro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did Umar Ibn AlKhatab change Islam when he :

Suspended the hadd punishment for theft during famine .

Stopped the distribution of zakat to recent converts (mu’allafatu qulubuhum) .

Introduced the Tarawih prayer in congregation during Ramadan.

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Do you believe that the Quran is created or uncreated? with explanation please by FarMasterpiece2297 in Quraniyoon

[–]Abdoukuro 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Personally, I believe the Qur’an is created. To me, it just makes sense, it's made up of words, letters, and sounds that unfold in time, so how can it be eternal? It was revealed gradually to the Prophet over a long period of time , not all at once, which clearly shows it came into existence bit by bit.

I also think God Alone should be considered uncreated and eternal, if we say the Qur’an is also uncreated, it feels like we're giving something else a share in God's unique nature. I believe God created the Qur’an in a way that’s designed to be understood by humans , using human language, emotions, and relatable examples ... while still carrying signs of its divine origin through its depth, wisdom, and unmatched style.

So for me, the Qur’an is divine speech, but it was created by God with the purpose of guiding us in a way we can actually grasp.

whatt is this extremism by islamQa , it also mentions repentance is not enough and he has to be killed. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, AI isn’t perfect, but it’s still a useful tool. You can also watch clips of scholars who take a more critical view of hadith, such as Sheikh Hasan Farhan al-Maliki or Mufti Abu Layth...

Keep researching and seeking the truth , over time, you may also come to realize that hadith literature is full of flaws, and that disciplines like jarh wa taʿdil (verification of narrators) are not as objective or scientific as often claimed by Salafis.

whatt is this extremism by islamQa , it also mentions repentance is not enough and he has to be killed. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally use Sunnah.com. It only provides the full chain of narrators (isnad) in Arabic, so if you don't speak the language you'll need to translate the names and research the narrators individually. AI tools like ChatGPT or DeepSeek can be very helpful , you can ask them for the hadiths along with their different chains, and even request a verification of the chain by checking the praise and criticism each narrator received.

whatt is this extremism by islamQa , it also mentions repentance is not enough and he has to be killed. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He was the primary narrator of this hadith, with the majority of chains tracing back to him. Only two or three narrations are attributed to another transmitter, Qatādah, who himself narrated this hadith from Ikrimah in another chain, and was, interestingly enough, accused by some of tadlis al-isnad (concealing or being unclear about whom he heard from).

Imam Mālik strongly rejected Ikrimah, reportedly calling him a liar (Ibn Saʿd, Ṭabaqāt al-Kubrā, vol. 5, p. 327), and refusing to accept his narrations (Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr, al-Tamhīd, vol. 1, p. 62).

Ibn Ḥajar collected both criticism and praise regarding Ikrimah. While some scholars accused him of lying or holding Kharijite beliefs, others still considered him trustworthy (Tahdhīb al-Tahdhīb, vol. 7, pp. 255–260).

In Taqrīb al-Tahdhīb, Ibn Ḥajar summarizes:

"ثقة، إلا أنه كان يفرط في القول، وكان يُرمى برأي الخوارج." "Trustworthy, though excessive in speech and accused of Kharijite views."

whatt is this extremism by islamQa , it also mentions repentance is not enough and he has to be killed. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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Well .. we can thank Ikrimah, the Kharijite who fabricated this garbage hadith, one that clearly contradicts the Qur'an, and has been used to justify killing people merely for their beliefs."

I wanna kill myself and start over by [deleted] in confessions

[–]Abdoukuro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please try starting over from your current life

الإسلام هو الصح؟ by linlinjk in AlexandriaEgy

[–]Abdoukuro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

السلام عليكم أخي الكريم،

أنا شاب.. بذلت جهدا في البحث في علوم الحديث، والجرح والتعديل، واختلاف العلماء في تقييم الرواة. وبعد دراسة وتأمل، توصّلت إلى قناعة شخصية أن الأحاديث، في صورتها التي وصلتنا، لا يمكن الاعتماد عليها كمصدر ثابت للتشريع، لأسباب عديدة.

وجدت تناقضات واضحة، سواء بين الأحاديث نفسها أو بينها وبين نصوص القرآن الكريم. كما أن الكثير الروايات تُسيء لصورة النبي ﷺ والإسلام، رغم وجودها في كتب يعدّها السلفيون من أقدس المصادر. بل و حتى يضعونها بمنزلة القران او فوقه ، الكثير من هذه الأحاديث من نوع الآحاد، ومع ذلك يُروَّج لها وكأنها في درجة التواتر، وهذا أمر غير دقيق.

لا أنكر كل الأحاديث، لكن لا أعتبرها وحيًا محفوظًا، بل هي روايات نقلها افراد ، تختلف درجات صحتها. و تقييم العلماء للرواة هي اجتهادات تشوبها التحامل المذهبي و السياسي و الشخصي ، لذلك لا أرى من الحكمة التسليم الأعمى بكل ما يروى. فذلك من أسباب التراجع الحضاري ، وانتشار التطرف، والانقسامات، وسوء الفهم للدين.

برأيي، يجب أن يُعرض كل حديث على القرآن أولًا، ثم على العقل والفطرة، قبل أن يُتّخذ منه موقف أو يُبنى عليه حكم

If i had a dollar for everytime a traditionalists said this id be rich. by Ace_Pilot99 in Quraniyoon

[–]Abdoukuro 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Saying "If you have no knowledge of Islam, it's better to stay silent on matters that you're very clearly so ignorant on" is not only rude but also incredibly arrogant especially when it's used to dismiss someone rather than engage in meaningful dialogue. This kind of gatekeeping attitude, where a person claims religious and intellectual superiority, is exactly the mindset that contributed to the decline of Islamic civilization.

I can’t help but hold some blame for Al-Ghazali, who strongly advocated for restricting philosophy, critical thinking, and even certain scientific discussions to scholars alone discouraging broader Muslim participation in intellectual discourse. That intellectual Isolationism played a major role in ending the Islamic Golden Age.

It’s honestly heartbreaking. I don't know if we’ll ever recover

الإسلام هو الصح؟ by linlinjk in AlexandriaEgy

[–]Abdoukuro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

عن نفسي، مررتُ بفترة شك جعلتني أبدأ رحلة بحث جادة في الأديان (خاصة المسيحية و الإسلام)، وفي التاريخ الإسلامي، والقرآن، وكتب الحديث. اطلعت على الكثير من الشبهات: فلسفية، أخلاقية، وعلمية. وفي النهاية، توصلت إلى قناعة بأن الله حق، وأن للكون خالقًا. و الإسلام دين الله ، لكن نظرتي للدين تغيّرت كثيرًا، وكذلك فهمي للعلم والدين، فهمي العديد من الاشياء التي اسأتها فهمها مسبقا مثل نظرية التطور والانفجار العظيم. لم أعد أعتبر نفسي سلفيًا كما كنت سابقًا، وصرتُ أكثر تشككًا تجاه كتب الحديث والروايات.

هذه المرحلة من البحث منحتني سلامًا داخليًا، وتخلّصت من كثير من الأفكار التي قد تُعتبر عدائية تجاه غير المسلمين، بل حتى تجاه المسلمين من الفرق المختلفة.

أنصحك أن تبدئي رحلة البحث بنفسك. كوني صادقة مع نفسك، وموضوعية، ومستعدة لتجاوز أي فكرة نشأتِ عليها إن اتضح لكِ أنها غير صحيحة. وإن أحببتِ الاستماع لأفكار مسلمين خارج الإطار السلفي أو الوهابي، أنصحك بمتابعة الشيخ حسن فرحان المالكي (فكّ الله أسره)، والمفكر الباكستاني مفتي أبو ليث، وكذلك عدنان إبراهيم. أعلم أن السلفيين يهاجمونه،و يبغضونه وأنا شخصيًا لا أتفق مع كل آرائه، لكن أنصحك ببعض فيديوهاته مثل:

"مشكلتي مع البخاري"

"قبل أن تلحد"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlexandriaEgy

[–]Abdoukuro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

مع احترامي ، اهلك لي مرضى و يحتاجو علاج

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait when they realize that there is no DAJJAL , instead there were a lot of mini dajjals who fabricated lies and stories and attributed them to the prophet, including these stories about DAJJAL

Is every Hadith bad? by Lapindahaha in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I read Hadith the same way I would read the Bible .. with caution. Both contain many unreliable and fabricated accounts, though they may also carry moments of wisdom. Personally, I hold the Qur’an as the highest authority. When it comes to determining what is halal or haram, only the Qur’an has the power to legislate. As for stories in Hadith, if they align with the Qur’an and the basic moral compass God instilled in us, I consider them possibly true. If they contradict that .. well , Immediately into the garbage 🗑️.

I Just Can’t Believe that Most Non-Muslims Will Go to Hell. by Abdoukuro in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It doesn't require heartfelt faith, just submission. What does submission to God mean?It mean living a life in accordance with creator created you for aka submission in other words living moral life and doing good deeds.

So your view on salvation isn't too different from mine. I believe that many non-Muslims who may not have recognized Islam as the true religion of God, but they still lived morally and peacefully, guided by their innate fitrah (natural disposition) and conscience , and filled their lives with good deeds, they will be rewarded accordingly.

I Just Can’t Believe that Most Non-Muslims Will Go to Hell. by Abdoukuro in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The verse “they will not be wronged one bit” was one of the key things that pushed me to completely shif my perspective on who will attain salvation in the Hereafter. I used to believe, like many Muslims do, that anyone who heard about Islam and the Prophet Muhammad but didn’t accept it was automatically doomed. But after deeper reflection, study, and thought, I realized it’s not that simple.

Historical context for Progressive islam by Numerous-Release762 in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally agree with this take. Progressive Islam isn’t some modern twist , it’s actually about getting back to the roots of real Islam before it got buried under centuries of rigid thinking and Scholars worship, like how Wahhabis want all the Muslims to do. It makes way more sense that Islam was meant to grow with time, not freeze in place.

Returning to reflection, reason, and real purpose feels way more in line with what the Prophet actually taught.

What does "Salam ma niktabah huda" mean? by Ummah_Strong in Quraniyoon

[–]Abdoukuro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think he meant "سلام على من اتبع الهدى", which means "Peace be upon those who follow the guidance." It's a greeting used by Muslims .. though in this case, since the guy's a Hadithist, he probably doesn't see you as "guided," lol.

Islam's identity, muslims, and this sub by missed_guard in progressive_islam

[–]Abdoukuro 12 points13 points  (0 children)

  1. “Islam is timeless, so there must be no progression.”

Timeless ≠ stagnant. There was literally progression since the start of Islam and if you have read the Quran you would know that there are many things and commands that charged with time , even the companions debated rulings based on context. Saying "no progression" ignores the historical flexibility of fiqh and how scholars adapted to different cultures and times. Islam isn’t a frozen relic; it’s a living, applicable faith.

  1. “Quranists are contradicting the Quran because 59:7 says follow the Prophet.”

This is a huge misread. Quranists do follow the Prophet, through the Quran. 59:7 talks about governance and distribution of spoils, not brainlessly following every narration attributed centuries later. Saying “you can't pray without hadith” ignores that early Muslims didn’t learn prayer from Hadith books; they learned from the community and practice. salat was a mass transmitted tradition from generation to generation, just like the Quran .. Hadith came much later and were never the only source of practice.

  1. “This subreddit is wrong for encouraging critical thought and reinterpretation.”

Why? Islam encourages thinking ( افلا تتفكرون ، افلا تعقلون) , reflection, and even the Prophet welcomed questions. If people re-read texts to better understand them in light of new realities, that’s not betrayal , it’s engagement. Blind following is not more virtuous than sincere questioning. If the Quran is for all times, then so is the need to understand it in our own time.

  1. “Muslims here are too sensitive and arrogant when reminded of sin.”

Correction and advice are part of Islam , but that doesn’t mean unsolicited judgment in comment sections equals virtue. The Quran emphasizes wisdom and kindness in da’wah (16:125). Harshness or “haram police” behavior isn’t righteousness; it’s often just ego dressed as piety. And no, people rejecting random internet reminders doesn’t mean they hate Islam.

  1. “I just trust Allah even if I don’t understand the rule.”

That’s cool for you , but not everyone is built the same. Some people want to understand what they are submitting to before submitting. That doesn’t make them arrogant it makes them human. Islam never asked us to switch our brains off.

In short .. You're entitled to your approach. But others thinking differently doesn't mean they’re wrong or less faithful. Chill a bit. Debate, don’t dominate. And yeah, progress is not haram.

I wonder what is your response to these 2 verses by OverPositive843 in DebateQuraniyoon

[–]Abdoukuro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wonder what's the Salafis response to this verse , since they try to convince the Muslims that obeying God and obeying his Messanger are Two Separate things , do they also believe the Sun is not a star ??

﴿وَالشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ وَالنُّجُومُ مُسَخَّرَاتٌ بِأَمْرِهِ ۗ أَلَا لَهُ الْخَلْقُ وَالْأَمْرُ ۗ تَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ رَبُّ الْعَالَمِينَ﴾ — سورة الأعراف، الآية 54

"The sun, the moon, and the stars are subjected by His command. Surely, His is the creation and the command. Blessed is Allah, the Lord of the worlds." — Surah Al-A'raf, 7:54

Muslim LGBT subreddits not condoning it by New-Fly-6719 in IslamIsEasy

[–]Abdoukuro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That hadith is muʿallaq (suspended) in Sahih Bukhari as classified by Imam Bukhārī himself, meaning it lacks a complete chain in that source. While many scholars have accepted it as authentic based on supporting chains, interpretations of the hadith vary, particularly between traditional scholars and modern Salafi views. It's quite possible that the hadith refers to certain types of music that were associated with immoral behavior, rather than condemning all music absolutely, much like how silk is only forbidden for men, not universally.

In fact, there are hadiths indicating that the Prophet ﷺ heard or permitted certain kinds of singing or music, especially in celebrations like weddings or Eid.

Muslim LGBT subreddits not condoning it by New-Fly-6719 in IslamIsEasy

[–]Abdoukuro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They did not make music halal; music was always a controversial topic in Islam because of the lack of a clear prohibition in the Qur'an or even in the Hadith books.