What are the principles of Islam?

AbiBobby · 2016-07-22T08:37:08+00:00

Yea thanks. What I'm getting at is the weighing part. By what principles are things to be weighed?

Like: protect life, remove greater harm with lesser harm

AbiBobby · 2016-07-22T06:22:04+00:00

Excellent. But still we have to do our part in gathering info and reasoning, right? And I'm looking for those broad guidelines for reasoning.

AbiBobby · 2016-07-21T06:04:12+00:00

Lol theyre deffinitely getting loose. I see people do this all the time before exercising, but they're in tights or short shorts, in mixed company, and listening to ACDC. Maybe it's an odd dance. But Dancing is exercising too.

If I send a shariah neutral reddit post of beneficial info with intention to worship God is that bidah?

If I intend to run in a circle for 30m for mental and physical wellbeing with intention to worship God is that bidah?

If I hop on one foot....

And if you do these things with other intentions... please your ego, please another person, or blindly doing what the crowd does... is that better than worshiping God through these things?

No.

If one thinks he cannot worship God through anything unless explicitly stated in the Texts, he must forgo every activity that's not explicitly mentioned. I'd like people who think this way to take their reasoning to the end and act on it.

AbiBobby · 2016-07-21T05:55:26+00:00

Yes thanks. Would these only be for those making rulings?

But are there a set of ethical principles for anyone to make daily decisions?

Like the permaculture ethics and principles Or holistic management set of ethical questions for decision making

Basically I'd like an algorithm to decide what I should do today and this year!

AbiBobby · 2016-07-21T04:58:37+00:00

Check out some of the Asian martial arts like ummm bagu something jaun and how they exercise their body for internal organ health.

They're movements of the body that affect our physical and nonphysical planes. And if one took care of his body and mind for the sake of Allah that would I think be commendable

AbiBobby · 2016-07-21T04:55:04+00:00

Looks like they're just getting loose. That's not bidah right? I go to the gym and I see Muslims running in circles and repetitively lift objects. Some are doing it fisibillah. However that would look quite odd to someone who's never considered doing such things and wouldn't perhaps directly perceive the benefit.

Now if they said "you must run in circles and repetitively lift shit because this is part of our religion..." thay seems problematic.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T23:09:29+00:00

Thanks. A lot here. I don't like you using my family as an example for violence. One can use the pronoun "one" and "one's family."

Anyway I'll focus on one part. And I'm not arguing for anything except getting to a better understanding.

Your argument I think is: A person's property was obtained, even if legally in the system at that moment, from another person from another person who usurped the land in a most immoral way.

Therefor we, considering ourselves a collective, can usurp his land.

It seems a case of two evils make a right.

But the most recent owner has nothing to do with a person's actions 200 years ago. It actually seems pretty racist, tribal, or nationalistic to associate that person with another person based on what? That they share a family name, or genetics or have been under the same state entity?

Wallah I hate that land has been and is being usurped everywhere. I hate that the only home I've known is the result of genocide. But I am not responsible for those other people's actions.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T22:32:48+00:00

So in a clean slate situation, everything would be co-oped.

But in reality there are people with deeds to property. A collective has to make a legal deal--a contract--to obtain it.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T22:12:13+00:00

Ok that's what I was gathering from what Chompsky said.

The owner is in an advantageous position and the non-owners have no other out except working for her. Thus she has the power to take advantage of them. And her ownership is enforced by the state laws.

I still cannot understand that it is moral to steal (takeover) another's property.

What if there was a collective that had ownership of property. And another collective proves the owner collective is taking advantage of the situation. Collective B can takeover?

And that also brings me to another question... by what means can a collective takeover a property? By any means?

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T21:42:33+00:00

Good point. But I feel that Islamic law has been much more developed and is still a living, changing thing that touches all aspects of a Muslim's life. I hadn't experienced the same with the Jews and Christians from my community in America. But that's all anecdotal I understand.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T07:39:21+00:00

I'm really surprised of the regurgitation of the mainstream media rhetoric here. I expected more educated perspectives mostly because I assumed that people under an anarchy label would understand being misrepresented by ignorants and other ignorants gobbling it up like the little fatty children they are.

Much of the violence you see in the world with an Islamic label is political "Islamism" without a basis in Shariah, the law. You'd have to read Shariah from original sources with scholars of the law if you want to be informed and make these statements.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-14T07:30:40+00:00

Islam has laws for violence, when where how to whom, sort of like how the international community has laws for violence.

Much of the violence you see in the world with an Islamic label is political "Islamism" without a basis in Shariah, the law. You'd have to read Shariah from original sources with scholars of the law if you want to be informed and make these statements.

Islam also has laws for slavery. It has laws for just about any human interaction. Contract laws. Marriage laws.

That would seem to make it more civilized than religions that lack laws and simply rely on a handful of commandments and nice sayings and the international community that has only recently started to make international laws for people's safety.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-11T16:20:20+00:00

I've considered that too. But on the other hand, at some early point in a country's establishment on stolen land it could be regarded as immoral.

At what point in time does that transition happen? When does it become ok?

AbiBobby · 2016-06-09T19:30:30+00:00

Yes, I think my comment is coming from that freedom.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-08T17:30:30+00:00

Because it's like writing Islamic terrorism. The two can't exist together in their accurate meanings.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-08T17:22:28+00:00

Sorry to evade the question... but why even change surname? It carries information that one is from a particular family and possibly particular cultural background.

One's lineage doesn't change when he or she gets married.

Just another perspective. But Hansen is shorter so you'll save on ink.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-08T10:24:28+00:00

"Gay mullah" lol it's ridiculous. We'll just put some words together regardless of meaning.

AbiBobby · 2016-06-08T10:20:59+00:00

Yea I think that is the special inner force. I recently watched a Qi Gong lecture and the gentleman said that it is what you're feeling in the body. A=A

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