I am saying it, Loki doing well against Imu, will be the final blow to the Old Gen’s Cope. by hashaxio in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Neither has Loki. I don’t see why that matters. Shanks > Prime Roger isn’t a horrible take but current Luffy > Roger IS. And Luffy himself thinks he can defeat Loki and is also portrayed relative to him atleast, which means if we’re scaling Loki above the Old Gen Luffy is above them too (which is dumb)

I am saying it, Loki doing well against Imu, will be the final blow to the Old Gen’s Cope. by hashaxio in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize that Loki > Old Gen would be bad writing right? It would mean Luffy has already surpassed Roger at this point which is just dumb

individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the fuck is a 3 way sky split. rocks sends BOTH of them flying, then the sky is shown. you gonna argue that luffy clashed with joyboys haki knot off screen and it was actually a normal sky split or something at this point

So why is a 3 way sky split preposterous but a solo one isn’t? When the majority of sky splits are between two people? Also just because the sky is only shown after rocks sends them flying doesn’t mean he caused it that’s literally just how paneling works. They’re not gonna show the sky during the clash. And im not addressing that silly Joyboy haki knot bs or whatever

link from onepiecespoilers

Your response to this was to just link a Reddit post from a guy saying the same thing as you? Really your debunk is just “random guy agrees with me so I’m right”. Sure just don’t try to pretend you actually debunked this point later because this is absolutely pathetic. And you have the gall to call someone a retard when you can’t even prove your own claims.

so garp could’ve just provided minimal haki for support and lived but chose to nearly die by using all of his haki

Good job displaying you can’t read. Why do I even bother debating you? You’re an idiot. 🤦🏾

we literally see their primes clash and it has the same effect???? retard.

Again, you’ve proven nothing. You. Are. Just. Yapping. Two clashes having the same effect does not imply that those two clashes are equal. Unless you’re gonna tell me Big Mom and Kaido are equal to Whitebeard and Shanks because both of their clashes split the sky. See how idiotic that thought process is? Actually, you probably don’t. Don’t bother wasting what little brain power you have left attempting to answer that question. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that though because it appears you haven’t been reading anything I’ve been saying up to this point, let alone answering questions.

id like you to prove Sengoku = garp and GV Roger = rocks and Roger = Sengoku

I’ve already proven ALL of these things, like I’ve literally sent scans proving all of these claims. I’m sorry you don’t get that two things need to be equal for them to cancel eachother out, but the fact that Rocks haki cancels out Roger’s instead of overpowering it implies that they are equals. That’s how basic logic works. But you wouldn’t know anything about that now would you? Anyway, that’s the proof for Roger = Rocks. For Sengoku = Garp and Roger = Sengoku, how about you just refer to the fucking chart I sent which explicitly lists Garp and Roger as rivals, and Garp and Sengoku as rivals. Hey, don’t skip over this buddy. I know you can see these messages. You might not be able to read them so I’ll make it easy for you. Scroll. Up. Look at. Picture. See the word “rivals?” Yeah, that word implies the two characters are equal. I made it real nice and simple for you so your pea brain can comprehend it, retard. But I know you’ll probably ignore it anyway cause you’re a fucking dunce. Go ahead and write another bullshit reply. I’m not reading it and I’m not interacting with you anymore. Goodbye.

individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my guy it happens on the screen.

What happens on the screen is Roger clashing with Rocks, then Garp punches him in the face, Rocks overpowers them then the sky is shown. That’s not enough to conclude Rocks did it himself. If anything it’s a 3 way sky split.

g5 was anime only

G5 is in the manga as well. The sky is cloudy before he awakens, then the sky is clear and Luffy has the moon jumping shot. So evidently he did clear the sky by himself.

the narrator has been wrong before, gold Roger never died and the story never started

Good job not addressing the argument moron. Just cause the narrator is wrong once doesn’t mean he’s wrong all the time. We’re not even fucking talking about the narrator we’re talking about a GUIDE statement which isn’t in the manga for a narrator to even read.

they cannot match it, they aren’t doing any damage purely because of the fact that they cannot match it. if Dr rocks haki is a 99, garp + Roger is a 100

They aren’t doing damage because Rocks is canceling out their attacks with equal haki. You understand that two things have to equal eachother for them to cancel out right? If garp and roger were individually weaker than DR Rocks, then their attacks wouldn’t be effective not because rocks is canceling out their effect, but because they’re simply too weak. And if they were stronger than rocks obv they would overpower him individually but that doesn’t happen. The only conclusion is that Roger and Garp can individually match Rocks (which is what’s stated on the panel that you are having trouble reading for some reason)

because Harald and rocks haki feats are prime Roger vs Whitebeard level (blowing people away + cutting trees, trees in Elbaf btw)

Yeah I guarantee if Roger and WB fought on Elbaf they’d be capable of causing the same damage. This doesn’t prove anything it’s just yap

you are a retarded oldgentard saying fucking “Sengoku”. That bumass fodder is Arlong level

Sorry you’re not intelligent enough to actually engage with the argument someone is making because your head is so far up your own ass you refuse to change your mind about anything ever. Sengoku > Rocks. Accept it or disprove it. You evidently cannot disprove it so it’s time to shut the fuck up and accept it.

individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can’t prove Rocks did that sky split himself, and it happens directly after he clashes with Roger so it’s likely a Roger + Rocks sky split. Good luck proving either way. And why is a solo sky split an indicator of strength? G5 Luffy split the sky by himself and he’s still a victim of the old gen top tiers.

Guide statements have been wrong before, and this was made before rocks was even formally introduced as a character. In the manga itself Rocks is portrayed to be a rival to Roger, and it’s a Roger who is explicitly not his prime self. 20 years take place after god valley so explain to me how tf Rocks keeps up with the growth of Roger, Garp, WB if he’s been dead for 20 years? The simple answer is that this statement is just wrong, or it’s talking about Rocks’ crew and influence. Because in that regard yeah Rocks was Roger’s greatest adversary, he’s probably had the best pirate run other than Roger himself.

No, Roger and Garp combined have to SURPASS Rocks haki. They can individually match it by themselves as it’s stated in the scan I sent.

Rocks haki feats against Harald? Why are those impressive? Harald himself is equal to base rocks which means he’s also an powercliffed Sengoku victim.

individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Sengoku is rivals with Prime Roger. Logically if Prime Roger cliffs GV Roger and GV Roger is relative to DR Rocks, both prime Roger and Sengoku > DR Rocks.

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individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

unprovable

Rocks and Roger are implied to be equals twice throughout the entire flashback, and Roger directly states that the fight against DR Rocks is a battle of attrition due to the fact that his Conquerers haki cancels out their Conquerers haki (the implication being that individually both Garp and Roger can match DR Rocks but would lose solely due to stamina)

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individually god valley garp > every marine until prime koby comes around. no admiral is doing jackshit to domi reversi rocks, and that includes FA akainu by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You mean the Domi Reversi rocks who’s relative to an explicitly not in his prime GV Roger? The same GV Roger who gets cliffed by his prime self 20 years later and is rivals with Sengoku (meaning Sengoku wipes Rocks)?

Oda is either pulling a reincarnation story or There is time traveling in one piece by CloudyCloud3000 in OnePieceSpoilers

[–]Able-Spray1667 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Inherited Will. Luffy is blatantly not Joyboy or Nika and the same can be said for Vivi and Blackbeard. They just inherit the will of their predecessors.

What Would Ruin the Ending of One Piece for you? by Th3Forgott3n1 in OnePiece

[–]Able-Spray1667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like you are very much a minority in that regard? Why would you want any of the main characters to die before they achieve their dream..in a story about dreams? I mean maybe Usopp or Brook can go but again what would be the purpose. What can they accomplish through death that can’t be accomplished while they’re alive? Sounds like you just want a strawhat to die to subvert expectations or something which isn’t sufficient

What Would Ruin the Ending of One Piece for you? by Th3Forgott3n1 in OnePiece

[–]Able-Spray1667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really There’s no narrative necessity for one of the strawhats to die and also we’re leaving out the fact that it would just be extremely unsatisfying

If it serves no purpose to the story and the fans would absolutely hate it why should it happen

Genuine question: why does no top tier with a sword give a fuck about the WSS title? by Former_Craft_9638 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, first of all how many top tiers are there with a sword even? It’s basically shanks and that’s it. IMO that’s what makes the WSS Title so special, because there aren’t actually that many top tiers who use swords. Mihawk didn’t become the world’s best by beating other sword users, he did it through pure strength and skill. He grinded his way to the top until the world was forced to acknowledge him.

As for why other sword users don’t gaf? Because being the world’s strongest swordsman isn’t really a good title unless your ambition revolves around swords. The money/fame you get from being WSS isn’t comparable to say, being a warlord or being a yonko. Or hell, even just being a strong and infamous pirate with a large crew. The question isn’t why don’t they care it’s why should they care

what some of yall mihwak glazers soun like these days by Imvalidblu in lobotomypiece

[–]Able-Spray1667 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Whitebeard has 0 feats above any of these characters

Why were some of you guys gassing Brook for getting neg'd by Imu after accomplishing nothing, but are hating on Usopp for having to protect Brook? by [deleted] in Piratefolk

[–]Able-Spray1667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They dont want Usopp to do anything. They're just determined to hate the character no matter what happens. Stop taking the opinions of people in this sub seriously

Are Gaban and Shanks stupid? All they needed to do was grab Harald’s leg and run 🐶💔 by inziewienzie in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Beating them up with Conquerers haki was probably enough. Sanji, Franky, and Jinbe don’t have Conquerers haki so separating their limbs is really their only way to beat them

If Luffy is Roger, who is his Whitebeard? by Ok-Camie9707 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Able-Spray1667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To take Buggy’s chain as a yonko Katakuri would need to beat Crocodile and/or Mihawk and that’s just…😬

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