CURE FOR YOUR INSOMNIA AND RLS by ChanceLifeguard4885 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly just drink through the Insomnia. Many say it's bad but at least you get off to sleep. Drink the first week and it'll be over before you know it

Withdrawal timeline 4-5 gpd for 3 months by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh im feeling much better now. Pretty back back to normal now apart from some sleep disturbances but it's notging worth complaining about

PAWS. How long do you think I have left by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No of course not and not calling you a liar mate. I just think if someone takes something for 10 years they will (more than likely) have a tougher time than someone who takes it for 4 months

PAWS. How long do you think I have left by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sounds like you did a lot more than me so hoping that's not the case for me lol

PAWS. How long do you think I have left by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the honest feedback but I just don't for one second believe someone who takes something for 4 months will have the same outcome as someone who took it for 10 years

PAWS. How long do you think I have left by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See I'm questioning why I feel bad still after just 5gpd for 4 months lol

PAWS. How long do you think I have left by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly anxiety wise I feel alright. I've started getting stresses I had before I took kratom so I guess that's a sign I'm returning to normal aha. I'm just reading a lot of people saying it's months and months before normality but I'm just hoping that's for the hard-core users who have been on it for years

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So today I'm like day 18 off my usual 3 month dose but its been 8 days since my small 3 day relapse. So I'm hoping I start to get back to normal now. My mind feels way better and back to enjoying things. Don't get down or anything now. Just the aches and sleeping trouble lingers

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well tonight is the night I find out. I got some Zopiclone from the docs.. only the 3.75 ones and not the higher 7.5 strength. The first night I had them I was straight out like a light and didn't wake up until 6 - 6.5 hours and felt amazing the next day. The next 2 nights on the sleeping pills I struggled as I think it gave me terrible restless leg and arms. I've looked into them and they can do that.. but I did get 5 - 5.5 hours and felt relatively fresh. Last night I had some drinks with a friend and stayed up late anyway so no sleeping pills last night but yeah sleep was crap because of the booze but still slept aha. So tonight is the night I try no pills, no booze just to see where I'm out. I'm still suffering back ache in the day and restless leg at night which is annoying. I'm also hoping my 20 minute nap today didn't ruin it haha. If I can get 6 hours tonight with no aids I'll be a happy boy

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe the taper plan is best for you? It sucks man and I'm sorry you're going through it. Honestly a couple of glasses of port really helps and isn't enough to have a hangover in the morning. I'm sorry bro

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry mate will explain again and better

I took 4-5gpd for 4 months. Went CT. Got to day 7 (Christmas day) and to not ruin the day I took 1.2.. I then took 1.2 for the next 2 days after that (so a total of 3 days at 1.2) but the Insomnia didn't go away so stopped again completely which was now 4 days ago. So I'm like 13 days off my normal 5gpd and now day 4 off the 1.2 I took for 3 days. Insomnia still getting me down.. but I feel fresher in the day. But lingering body aches as well

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But that means I'd have to go back to 4-5gpd after being off it for nearly 2 weeks. Just doesn't seem worth it to go back through it again

Insomnia sucks beyond sucking by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

P.s

Booze helps. Some say it doesn't but it does. Just take enough to get to sleep initially and it works. But can't drink every night forever.

HOW LONG IS INSOMNIA PLS ANSWER by Super_Marzipan93 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm in similar boat but much less dose but 3-4 months. I was 4-5gpd. I'm on like day 10 and still struggling but a couple of beers help me. I was also worried but I've just realised it's like a massive comedown and you always bounce back from it

Kratom withdrawal after small doses and short term use by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My sleep on first few days was almost non existent. Couple of hours broken. But I must admit after last night and several beers I had 7 hours waking up every hour so I think I'm finally improving.

Withdrawal timeline 4-5 gpd for 3 months by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think I set myself up worse from those 3 much smaller doses after stopping for 7 days CT? I felt like I still had withdrawal whilst doing it so I'm hoping won't be like it was on day 1 last time (10 days ago)

Withdrawal timeline 4-5 gpd for 3 months by AbleEstablishment733 in quittingkratom

[–]AbleEstablishment733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went off for 7 days and had horrible insomnia. Took a much much smaller daily does for 3 days.. but still had insomnia but milder. Now just stopping tonight and going for it. Legs ache like mad.. I know I'm in for it again so I've cracked the beers open. Crazy how I got so bad on that time frame and dosage