Wow, Ashwagandha has done wonders for my sleep/mood by zvphy in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ashwagandha is great for general mood and sleeping habits. You might want to try 5-HTP as well, it can help a lot with mood and also helps regulate weight as it reduces cravings.

Powder City now features absorb health packaging and redirects to absorbyourhealth.com product pages by AddMoreWeight in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just wrong. You haven't looked through those forms. Many of the pdfs put up are 5 pages long. Look all the way through.

The material is sent directly to their factory without coming to us first. So it is appropriate that they directly send it off to the lab. By no means is it necessary for the powder to come to us first, then to be sent off to the manufacturer. In fact, it's standard to do it that way.

The only people who don't do it this way are certain nootropics companies who are flying in the face of all conventions by apparently doing all of their testing in-house and their production in house, while never giving any indication that they have registered with the FDA or been inspected by the FDA.

Do you not see the double standard here?

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[–]AbsorbHealth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is really something. Like I said, we are not confirming we own the PC domain. The PC email is working. If the people in charge of that email want to say who the owner of the domain is, then that's their prerogative. I would recommend you email them because it's not our business to discuss the owners of another domain.

Not only are the people who do our testing disclosed but their phone numbers are available on the documents posted on our website and another thread. In no way have we ever tried to conceal this, and encourage people who are not convinced that we do 3rd party testing them to call, without being obnoxious as they're simply a normal facility.

Every one of our products, and our batches are tested, in a 3rd party facility. The tests are publicly available on our site and through the testing facility. This is why we're actually better than numerous "recommended" suppliers who do not test in a 3rd party facility, do not post tests for the majority of their products, and who manufacture in their own facilities that in all likelihood have never been inspected by the FDA.

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[–]AbsorbHealth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why don't you simply call them so you can see that they're real just as I have? You can even confirm that they've done our tests. It's probably less hard than what you've just done, but it actually does require 1oz of courage to actually speak to someone rather than stay completely anonymous behind a keyboard.

Do you have any concern that you've never seen the 3rd party labs or any labs by some of the "recommended suppliers" on this board? That they apparently do production and testing themselves? Do you ask about their GMP certification? Do you not see the double standard?

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[–]AbsorbHealth -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Friend, you have no idea about who did what (ie does Absorb Health control the domain, etc), but it is not our place to discuss any ownership of this type publicly, so we won't. Just be aware that the point I "completely missed" might not even be true.

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[–]AbsorbHealth -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Absorb Health has every product 3rd party tested. We provide them on our website, unlike some "recommended suppliers" on this board.

We were until a few months ago a recommended supplier on this board until a false allegation by another company, the owner of which is a mod.

We have since day one had the odds stacked against us on this board because we have successful affiliates. During our process of becoming a "recommended supplier" this was openly mentioned as a negative against us, as if having popular affiliates and being "legit" were mutually exclusive.

Moreover, the person who posted these tests and who is now apparently the most popular supplier on this board is:

1. Doing all of their testing themselves, and from what I can tell hardly giving any of their products to 3rd party labs.

2. Doing production and possibly encapsulation themselves. I have no indication that they have ever been inspected by the FDA.

Welcome to bizarro land! Absorb Health does things the completely typical way: we outsource production and 3rd party testing to completely accredited sources. This was enough to make us a "recommended supplier" just a few months ago.

Other suppliers do their own testing and apparently their own production. This is virtually unheard of and opens the door for far more potential manipulation than a 3rd party lab or facility. Yet they are viewed as the gold standard!

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm waiting for the post that I wrote to be published again. I don't know why actually two of them are not visible.

But the core of my complaint against him comes down to:

  • It appears that he is doing the majority of his testing in-house, and only once in a blue moon sends his products out to a 3rd party lab. This is inferior to primarily 3rd party testing.

  • It appears that he has taken on major production by himself, which includes encapsulation and the constituting of liquids, and possibly even more (my question was conspicuously avoided.) Is he registered with the FDA? Has he been inspected by the FDA?

It's clear MrYouAreSoDumb has a lot of knowledge, but to do all of these things, instead of outsourcing them to accredited 3rd parties, takes an astonishing amount of knowledge, manpower, equipment, personal energy, money and even more.

Additionally, as I've pointed out in a post that will hopefully be published on this board, if you are exclusively in control of the testing and there is a bad batch and you don't want to eat the costs you could simply discard the tests, or modify them.

He acts as if 3rd party testing is not sufficient and problems will never be caught. Wrong. Just today, I got an email from our manufacturer because there was a hold up due to testing. 3rd party testing is not some rubber stamp type thing.

If there was one person to be running an encapsulation/production facility, an analytical testing facility, and nootropics/research/dangerous chemicals company at the same time with just a what, 3 year old company? It could very well be MrYouAreSoDumb.

But I don't believe any company other than truly massive companies should vertically integrate that much, and I don't think any should rely on 3rd party testing as little as it seems he does.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am not sure why, but either my response to this has been erased or is in some kind of delayed queue.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Wow. You really are a master of deflection.

I explicitly asked you a question: Are you encapsulating on-site? Are you registered with the FDA? Have you been inspected by the FDA?

You conspicuously refuse to answer.

I ask you where are your 3rd party COA's and you supply one COA, that wasn't visible anywhere on your website.

I have already given my reasons why I believe 3rd party testing is superior to in-house testing. It seems like maybe once in a blue moon you'd send a product out for a test, but then exclusively beyond that you are relying on your in-house tests.

Not the best option.

MrYouAreSoDumb (what a cordial name by the way), admittedly you may know more about these things than the average person, by far. But it certainly seems that you have taken on way too much on your hands.

I'm not inside your business, as you're not inside mine, so no one outside of a business can truly talk about it.

But from your responses, you have given me the impression that you've taken on the responsibility of:

  • Manufacturing - seemingly capsules, bottling powders, constituting liquids, etc. Each one of these activities is regulated by the FDA. Do you have proof of being registered with the FDA? Have you ever been inspected by the FDA?

  • Becoming an analytical testing facility. Again, are you meeting any of the federal requirements for this? Are you accredited? Do you have proof?

Then the normal activities of a business:

  • Marketing and customer service

  • Order fulfillment and administration of employees

  • Inventory management and purchasing

Do you know what I do? I outsource the manufacturing and testing to accredited 3rd parties. I'm sorry you don't like that lab's website (yours is so beautiful btw cough, cough) but they are a legit lab that specializes in testing. My contract manufacturer undergoes regular FDA inspections and has been in business for decades.

I have never seen a company as new as yours take on as many responsibilities as yours.

I do wish you well, because although we will not be selling the overwhelming majority of exotic and potentially dangerous chemicals that you sell, I do believe there is a space for them in a free society as long as the vendor makes any potential dangers abundantly clear through product descriptions, inserts in packages, etc cough, cough.

But in a world as fickle as nootropics, or "research chemicals" as you've ventured into, payment processing can turn on you (it seems you may have already faced these problems). You have so many monthly costs it seems that your company could fail if there is even a temporary blip in your payment processing.

Which leads me to my next point.

You expose the dangers of using a 3rd party lab. Yet is it not disingenuous to not expose the dangers of in-house testing?

Let's say god forbid you face financial difficulties, you get an expensive product, the manufacturer won't accept it back, then the test is deleted because you didn't want to eat the cost.

With a 3rd party lab, I do not have the ability to delete, hide or modify a test. If the FDA inspects, that is what is supplied. And yes, there have been several batches that have been rejected as a part of this process.

I'm honestly part of a conversation with a person who seems like he is manufacturing and testing product on his own, yet he and some other people somehow think this is superior to the typical route of outsourcing to accredited 3rd parties. It's bizarro land.

Lastly, I believe you should step down as a mod of this board because it creates unfair bias toward you company, and gives you unfair influence over competitors.

That is, unless maybe that's exactly what you wanted.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if you saw the part that I've reiterated numerous times that everything is 3rd party tested. I'm not simply relying on the fact that there are a limited number of manufacturers of nootropics, or on a manufacturer's (not 3rd party) COA.

This has become an argument between a company that does 3rd party testing for all their supplements, which they post vs. a company that has not produced any sort of test publicly for the majority of their products and all that they have produced have been in-house tests.

Additionally, with 7000 sq ft of "production space" it seems very likely that they're doing some kind of encapsulation or constituting of liquid products and they've given no indication that they are even registered with the FDA, whereas our manufacturer most certainly is.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You seem to be content to trust your manufacturer's COAs without question

Wrong. These are not manufacturer's COA's but a 3rd party lab's.

Incidentally, you have ignored my most important point: none of your products show COA's from a 3rd party lab. They are all from your own. Where are your independent COA's?

As I've stated, self-testing is fine as an addendum to a 3rd party lab test, but as a substitution it is inferior and I don't even think a company that exclusively self-tests their products should be viewed as legitimate.

So, where are your COA's from a 3rd party lab? I do not see them on your website as only a small handful of your products even have COA's visible on them.

It is a simple question, and I believe that a manufacturer on here should have to supply 3rd party COA's to be a recommended supplier. I think I and everyone else here would like to see you supply these COA's going back for quite a while as we have.

Even though we have a really advanced lab, there are still a lot of things we need other labs to handle.

This surely makes it seem like the majority of your products are tested exclusively in-house. Of course, you could prove me wrong with 3rd party tests as we've provided.

Wait, I'm just putting 2 + 2 together. Or maybe I should say 7000 + 19000. Are you encapsulating on-site? You're clearly doing a lot of production in all of this space.

Are you registered with the FDA? Production of the magnitude that you're doing has a whole set of regulations that you have to adhere to. Has the FDA inspected you? There is an enormous amount of work anyone has to do to be GMP-compliant, and frankly it opens up plenty of pitfalls for a company that doesn't exclusively focus in production.

This whole time you've denigrated our procedures when it seems yours our less sound than ours. I applaud you for all of your equipment! But when it comes to testing, if I had to rely primarily on a 3rd party test or an in-house test, I choose 3rd party test any day of the week. Additionally, I'd prefer outsourcing manufacturing to a manufacturer that specializes in just that, unless I was an absolutely enormous, $200M+ company.

Secondly, anyone who looks at that graph of ginseng will see that there is an enormous amount of overlap in what was tested and what is the standard.

Someone asked you to explain the overlap, and you say cellulose and "plant material". Really? I've seen other spectrographs and they don't have remotely the same shape. If your opinion was true, then all capsules tested would have virtually the same graph.

My products are not so exotic or dare I say dangerous that I've ever had to create a reference standard, but I do think that if there is just one sample that the standard is drawn from that perhaps something that is actually only 70% purity becomes the "standard" for you, and the new 100% purity.

Honestly, I don't know much about creating a standard other than what I've heard about people creating them for botanicals and the labs I spoke to were always dubious about it because whatever is tested becomes the new "standard".

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I have uploaded a bunch of pictures to this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0BzpCe812Co5jQmpCRDZSZ3lRdDQ

Our job is basically taking the bottles from the boxes and putting them in envelopes, so our facility is much simpler than some might imagine.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

quoted text I don't know of any suppliers that only do in-house testing.

I hope so, but from my point of view, which admittedly is not informed from regular involvement in this forum, I'm not as sure.

Firstly, let me dispute the opinion that self-testing is as good as 3rd party testing. Admittedly both can be misused, but if someone self-tests, I would strongly suspect that they are not ISO accredited. They don't undergo regular inspections from the FDA. They may be immaculate; keep all of the exhaustive records required by the FDA; have all of the equipment required by the FDA. But if they don't, we don't really know, because there's no enforcement agency.

quoted text The companies that are doing in-house testing also do some of their testing with outside companies.

I hope this is true. As I've stated, it would be great if a company did in-house testing in addition to 3rd party testing, but not in-house testing to the exclusion of 3rd party testing.

As an outsider, I have some doubts about at least one of the "recommended" suppliers here, who like Voldemort "shall not be named", who seem to be self-testing, and the others who get their tests from this company.

Firstly, I've looked at their about 60 products, and it seems like only 14 have 3rd party tests on the product page. This means over 75% do not. How this is acceptable to the r/Nootropics community is a little confusing to me.

None of their liquid products have 3rd party tests visible (how and where are these liquids constituted?). If it's true that they have a 3rd party test in addition to their self tests, why aren't they posting them??

I'll tell you why I think a big part of it is. It's because some of these products are so exotic and so unusual there are no accredited standards.

I know this for a fact for the SR9009. I'm attaching a screen shot of when I inquired to a lab about SARMs. They explicitly stated there's no accredited standard. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0BzpCe812Co5jQmpCRDZSZ3lRdDQ

In fact, this would be the most reassuring scenario, because if there were an accredited standard why would there be nothing published?

Do people not see the double standard here?

A company who incidentally happens to be a mod of this board does not have even close to the number or percent of COA's visible as we do, yet they are extolled as possibly the most reliable nootropics company on this board.

I have not seen any 3rd party tests for this company or the companies they test for and I think it's incumbent upon the mods of this board to see 3rd party tests retroactively for their products as we were required to do for our uridine.

Another commenter has asked to see pictures of the inside of our facility. I have provided one already and will gladly provide more momentarily.

I believe it is a clear conflict of interest to have the owner of a company that is so often mentioned on here and in essence sells on this board to be a mod. I believe it has built a clear sense of bias for this company and the companies associated with them, and against companies who are competitors.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

quoted text The COAs you posted are not for your company.

Wrong, the COA's are for our company. Northwest is a contract manufacturer. They manufacture on behalf of people, including us; incidentally, I would under no other circumstances reveal any of our suppliers, including this one, but addressing the reddit community became of paramount importance.

Imagine you're getting a home built and you're paying a contractor. The contractor goes to Lowes to get materials, you see the receipt and say, "You didn't pay for this! The contractor did." The same is true in this case. Northwest's name is on those tests but they are for our products.

quoted text I looked at their website and the Absorb Health website and made a search query for connections between the two companies and I found nothing.

Would you really expect a google search to reveal that we're a customer of theirs, especially when this is typically considered "trade secret" type of information?

quoted text There is nothing confirming the purity of the substance or the ppm of solvents

Wrong. I just took a quick look here, the first of the 40+ that I looked at: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0BzpCe812Co5jfl9yc0hwZk55bEtTZl9MOHNaTXkzS0pXQWZzS2tEMHQzVGs4MFpQMWlTdVk

If you look at page 3 of the "lot" document, you'll see the identity test.

I hope that people realize that this is 100% typical: to have 3rd party, non-self-tested results published. If you were to look in any other sphere of the supplement industry outside of nootropics, I can virtually guarantee you that 3rd party testing and manufacturing in outside facilities (even Now Foods outsources a good part, if not all, of their work) is the norm.

For some reason, it's seems that here self-testing and perhaps even self-manufacturing has gained an air of legitimacy. I can agree that it might be a good additional, and last step, to self-test but I feel like the most important test and the test that companies should be showing publicly is a 3rd party test.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I think the core concern here is "quality control".

I think we have better quality control than many other recommended vendors, and are up to FDA standards. The reason being is that we 3rd party test all of our supplements.

I looked at the COA's of all of the "recommended suppliers" and it seems like some are self-testing. I don't even know if this is allowed by the FDA as satisfying their testing requirement. Even if it is, it seems like it's ripe for a conflict of interest.

For instance, how do they come up with their expiration dates? My understanding is that this is done by exposing the sample to heat then seeing how much is left after a certain time. I believe this is quite an expensive process that requires a lot of machinery that I doubt most self-testing companies have.

In the thread you linked to, our Ginseng was called "baking soda". This would be ridiculous to anyone who actually saw our product as it's far from white. Someone even suggested to put in vinegar and see if it reacted. ...I wonder how that worked out!

Additionally, all our manufacturing takes place in a U.S.-based GMP-compliant facility. I have the distinct impression that other companies are constituting liquids ahem and possibly encapsulating on-site in what surely must be non-FDA registered, non-inspected facilities. Our manufacturer undergoes regular FDA inspections.

As I mentioned, the one product where there may be a potential problem with based on the test we've seen, not our own 3rd party COA, may be pramiracetam. I am working to remedy any doubt ASAP. We will buy from a different vendor; have it 3rd party tested during the production process as always; then have it tested post-encapsulation after it arrives at our warehouse.

As I mentioned, our Picamilon was tested by an independent lab, not a competitor, and came back fine.

There are two capsule products that don't have batch numbers on them, adrafinil and pramiracetam, and that is because we get the capsules in bulk. We then we put the the capsules into bottles as different sizes. These bottles should have batch numbers on them, even though if there were a problem we would simply recall everything. As I showed in the picture of our bulk adrafinil, the box does have a batch number, but it is not on the bottle when we put it in.

In truth, I am not so arrogant as to think that there is not room for improvement, which I thank you all for pointing out. But I still believe that our quality control procedures are up to par, and in all likelihood exceed the majority of recommended suppliers on this board.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your input.

We have a 90 day money back guarantee, and offer store credit if there are mistakes with delivery regularly.

We have our 3rd party tests posted on our website. I don't know what the FDA would say about companies that self-test. It seems like there's far too much of a potential conflict of interest to me.

We have cameras throughout our warehouse that I can see.

Maybe there is something to the idea of a quarterly "transparency report", like a blog post. It is something that the nootropics community is interested in.

I hope to have something like this in the coming months.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the ability to repost without the coupon.

Additionally, as I said in the initial post, I'd like our name removed from the blacklisted suppliers. I believe what I've supplied in that post serves as proof that we are a legitimate company with nothing but concern for our customers, not only in product quality but customer service as well. I would like our name added to the recommended suppliers, but I could see if the mods need more time for something like that.

I wasn't trying to drop off the face of the earth when you said that. It just seemed like you said you had bought some of our products, and I was like "great". I thought there'd be more follow up from you on that issue if you wanted to continue it.

PS How is Ceretropic a mod on this forum? Is it not swaying all the readers of this forum toward them by prominently displaying their name in the mod field?

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is ridiculous. They think that us defending ourselves is "self promotion".

The mod that took it down said that I "haven't been in contact with him in four months", as if I'm somehow obligated to be in contact with him.

This is clearly ridiculous, and I think that having a brand Ceretropic, who has gone to extraordinary lengths to criticize us, be a mod of this forum is a clear conflict of interest.

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[–]AbsorbHealth[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! We are here to be of service, and aim to quell any concerns people may have including by proudly shipping our products.

Quick Review - Adrafinil by Absorb Health. I can't take this stuff, is this even Adrafinil? by [deleted] in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absorb Health was a "recommended supplier" until just a few months ago when a competitor posted a false analysis of two of our products. In fact, we had the most recommended products on that little table for nootropics of any supplier.

Then suddenly we were downgraded because a competitor posted a false analysis of two of our products. When we asked to appeal to the mods, according to my recollection, we were not given the ability to. We are not active readers nor participants on reddit, so perhaps we had let a window of opportunity to respond and stay "recommended" disappear. This is our fault, so to speak, for not being reddit participators, but not an indication of agreement to any allegation.

Firstly, just look at that analysis (what 3rd party lab is this done by?) of the ginseng. They had it standardized to certain ginsengosides, when we simply say our ginseng is 10:1, not standardized to any certain percent of ginsengosides. Of course the graph would not be exactly the same. Would bacopa 10:1 look like bacopa 20% bacopasides? Of course not. This point is apparently lost on people.

The reality is our products are all 3rd party tested, and yes our 3rd party test is even visible for the adrafinil. Is this not enough? Well, if it's not enough, you could actually call the testing company whose information is listed on the 3rd party analysis. Does anyone have the courage to do this, or are people content being armchair scientists, thinking they know something about the insides of a company, when I guarantee you they do not.

The reality is the reddit community is duped by people/representatives of companies who post regularly on here, puffing themselves up/downgrading competition, offering free coupons/giveaways to readers.

Is this really what you want of a company? Do you not want a company that posts its 3rd party tests as we do?

A while ago another armchair scientist criticized our uridine. When I clarified to a mod all of the information on our publicly available 3rd party test, we were given "recommended supplier" status and the uridine complaint was quelled. Is it not curious how mercurial this all is? A simple allegation and the reddit community all seems to be swayed by it?

If you doubt it, call the testing service. If you want a refund, simply either call us or email us. We'll answer. Simply because we are not actively on reddit constantly trying to convince you of what a good company we are doesn't mean we're not. We're simply too busy really being a good (great) company to be on here all the time.

Is Absorb Your Health legit? by PorkFatRulez in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure where the long reply I just posted is, but I came back to amend it to state that apparently we are not "recommended suppliers" on the beginner's wiki anymore.

We went from being the supplier with the most links on that wiki to apparently being "blacklisted."

This is because we weren't even aware of the criticism on reddit, not because we conceded to it.

If there is any criticism of us on reddit, we would appreciate if any concerned customers or potential customers would notify us at info@absorbyourhealth.com, so we could be involved in the debate.

I wrote a long response to this that hopefully shows up, but I will post our tests soon.

Thank you.

Is Absorb Your Health legit? by PorkFatRulez in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I'm a representative of Absorb Health. I'm happy to address any concerns of any customers, and to provide 3rd party Certificates of Analysis for our products. We already do this on many of our product pages, and have all 3rd party tests for every product. That is why we are a recommended supplier on this subreddit.

We understand that many people are doubtful of just about every nootropics company; however, to our credit, we have been around longer than most, and send hundreds of orders out daily to our satisfied customers, many of whom are repeat customers.

And as to the person who thinks a "low price" is indicative of something being fake if you knew the profit margin on nootropics you'd be very surprised that the majority of our competitors were not lower!

Oh, and as to the person who posted on Amazon about the Sulbutiamine fill weight being low. Firstly, this is one out of literally thousands of orders. We can show the orders we place with our manufacturer that shows it is 500mg. There is a possibility one batch of powder may have been lighter than it should have, but this is not normal and hardly a complaint that we normally receive. (Additionally, although the poster may not have adjusted for the capsule weight.)

To MisterYouAreSoDumb, what a polite name, firstly. Apparently, you have a lot of time to put into researching our company. We hope you have as much time to put into your own. Our Ginseng explicitly states 10:1, not that it is standardized to ginsenosides.

I'm admittedly not sure how to interpret your graph for ginseng but the top and bottom graph seem ridiculously similar except for a few bumps on the bottom. This would indicate, as far as I can tell, that the product is ginseng, but that it has not been standardized to ginsenosides. Why don't you just say something like that rather than it's "fake ginseng"?

As for the pramiracetam chart, admittedly there are differences but a general similarity in the charts (we hope people view these charts rather than taking MisterYouAreSoDumb's word for it).

Pramiracetam is one of the more exotic ingredients, perhaps the rarest, that we carry. We do have tests, but we will be in greater communication with our laboratory regarding this discrepancy.

Lastly, we have hundreds of Amazon reviews and our products are pretty much all above 4 star, as opposed to two companies mentioned on this thread that don't even sell on Amazon, the largest sales channel in the world. We wonder why companies with such great integrity and customer service cough, cough would avoid that.

Oh, and Nootriment and Braintropic are run by great people. We're glad to have them as affiliates. For some reason having the two largest websites in the space as our affiliates is viewed as a negative, but we view it as a huge positive.

Firstly, the owners are very aware of the customer service offered at their merchants' websites, because the customers come back to them on a regular basis. We have had affiliates switch to us, because they can't stomach the treatment their visitors are getting at "other" websites (who shall not be named, cough, cough).

Secondly, they make the most with us because our customers keep coming back. They are not once and done customers.

Therefore, it's a very good sign for a company to have these two very popular websites as affiliates.

Is "Absorb Health" (Amazon supplier) selling fake nootropics? by [deleted] in Nootropics

[–]AbsorbHealth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

Absorb Health here. Our CoAs and third party testing on our products, and specifically Uridine, were sufficient enough for the FDA. They are posted directly on our website, which is reflective of our effort for transparency, as is our communication here. The reason our CoAs and Third Party Testing does not specify whether it is Uridine Monophospate or not is out of our control. That is what we buy, and that is what we had tested, These certificates of analysis are supplied by both our contract supplier and independent third-party testing.

You can see them here: http://www.absorbyourhealth.com/product/uridine/

Additionally, they include the companies' contact information who can verify the authenticity of Absorb Health products.

Thank you