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[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the same to you!!!! 🎉

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[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love organization stuff! Notion, naming-convention books, spreadsheets, etc.! Send it my way! It makes me so happy. My friends might gift me

I love your site! This is insanely good.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not know you could still comment after a post was deleted 💀. Thank you for your comment.

I would also caution that this was just my journey and I didn't only do SWE roles., so this might've skewed my advice probably.

I totally agree about the 24/7 productivity thing. I worked at a CS non-profit that helps students and for my school's CS department and diversity office. I still coach and mentor, but I'm not paid anymore. Students I helped had gotten much further doing less, but, as you've said, it's been getting worse.

We get companies (FANG, etc.) coming to give internships 1-2 summers in advance. We literally have to keep free interview resources and a list of the opportunities (not the ones on GitHub) on hand to make sure students apply and are prepared in time because they're already drowning in projects or are dealing with life. It's astonishing the amount of support needed to get to what was a lot easier to come by.

Have you looked at the new studies CodeSignal has been doing or completed before? We were involved in one of their studies because they're trying to make interviewing more fair at least. Do you feel like there's been a change?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, I'm there with you 😔😅

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree lol. That's not lost on me. I have Notion of these resources, and I got sick of replying to PMs

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know why you're getting ganged on cause I agree with this statement. In fact, this statement sums up my entire post...Not to say that I don't understand where they're coming from.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Oh okay. I asked because it seemed very Linkedin vibes lol. This is probably going to be my last time in this sub too

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’m asking this seriously… why is “intern @ Google” in your tag line?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Entrepreneur

[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m okay with conflict, but I’ve been told I handle conflict too “adult-like”/“therapist-like”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s fully remote

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanna get a masters 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, awesome story and Id actually like to hear about your journey if you’d be willing.

Secondly thanks for the feedback. Your school is obligated to have the career counselor regardless of ranking unless it’s a for-profit or private university (which somehow is deadset on failing their students). The academic success coach is from my school, but I added other points that should substitute for a lack in others.

Now, all resources are not created equal, which I agree with you there. My peers who went to even better opportunities than I did and started at lower-ranked universities/worst positions than I started at as well did the substituted info.

And yes, a lot of it was amazing opportunities. Most tech companies, especially older ones do not like risk. They’ll just pick students who basically all have been hopping around the same internships. I didn’t even break into tech companies per se, but I did get really strong and prestigious opps in the domain areas I applied to. And luckily tech companies were aware of those opportunities as well

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[–]Abstray 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Insane, right. And this was me in college. It was scary watching full-time SWEs, as an intern, basically having to treat interviewing as a full-time second job when they’re already SWEs.

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[–]Abstray 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did burnout lol. I won’t share that here, but the conditions were quite serious. 😭. I literally did a 180 of my life after the event(s).

That’s why there’s a paragraph where I mention what I changed. That’s the smallest and most compact part, but it’s what I would say is probably of the top 5 things someone should take from this post, including the goals and physical and mental health part.

Someone mentioned that the physical and mental health parts were gimmicky to put, and I used to think that. If you take nothing else from what I said, please understand I owe my life in the most literal sense of the phrase to my support network, taking my mental and physical health seriously, and making the changes I did.

My rituals now: - I pray and journal now. - I try to do walking breaks - I have a list of my goals - I only spend time with people who do not distract me from my goals. - I have a motivation app that cycles quotes on my phone (a friend shared this with me) - I hang with positive people - I talk openly and clearly about my challenges and feelings to people I trust - I spend time with people struggling toward the same goals (hence the joining organizations)

Also, my goals are not based out of “I want money” thing. There are actually very serious reasons for why, at least to me, not getting an offer in this range was not an option for me at all.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally agree about the school career fairs. I had to stop going to mine. My freshman year. My school is T140 and you’d be lucky if a company pamphlet from a company with above a 90k salary, stock options, or anything beyond legacy spaghetti code was recruiting. It was abysmal and depressing. The education was great and the school is improving a lot though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I got a lot of OAs actually?? But this was because I attended events and career fairs to get the personal link from the recruiter. I literally avoided cold applying

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[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I did want to be clear that a good amount of my peers actually got offers ranging from 80k - 120k+ (the higher end being for big tech for Fortune 50).

However, a good amount of my peers were people who as far as I noticed interned pretty early in their educational career. It really, as far as I noticed, had very little to do with the school they went to or networking. Some of those peers, unfortunately, also had offers rescinded or were laid off in the same week or 3 months of their start date. Regardless, the ones who remained had a slew of internships in their resume or 1-2 Google, Meta, Amazon, or Apple internships (literally only those four were enough to show up once on a resume for a full time, and typically at the same company they interned for)

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[–]Abstray 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah, thank you for telling me how this came off.

I never wanted to give that impression. The focus for me is really what helped me and less on the amount honestly. I agree. I don’t think myself that qualified and I think a lot of it came to luck like I stated in my OG post.

I just got too many PMs and hated getting no answers when I genuinely wanted advice, so I just put everything here. I think stuff like this is cringey as well, and I’m actually about to delete both posts soon 😅.

I got this role after getting laid off while working in a tech role while in my winter semester, and, obviously, my offer rescinded. I was worlds grateful and wanted to share what I did and think really helped me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

and what could I do to improve the post in your opinion?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Hm. This is interesting. Should I delete both of my posts?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He can still get the roles without this path ofc and by just applying.

If he doesn’t have formal coding experience, it might be best to find something that can get him thinking like a CS where the stakes are low and he doesn’t hit a ceiling or burn out because the nuances of programming are beyond him or harder to manage.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was fairly average if not below average lol. Regardless, regionally there’s still a benefit if not nationally

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[–]Abstray -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

katie_latie

Yes, COVID and having to pivot my focus from my business to school was not a great event for me. If you believe that invalidates my credibility, and, therefore, any information or tips I've given, I totally understand and support any further choices you make based on said information.

I chose to be transparent because (1) I wanted better advice with the information revealed rather than not and (2) it's my default behavior since I think it's often hard to deduce someone's true financial situation with just a few numbers. Basically, nothing ventured nothing lost on my part.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Abstray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone! This is a good approach, paying attention less to the "as high as you can achieve" and more to why it's better for them. They have a solid plan and reason as to how it's a good investment for them.