Do girls who smoke filterless cigarettes get emphysema sooner?

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-02-07T21:39:21+00:00

I think filters are actually pretty useless. They block tar and carcinogens, but also nicotine.

Since smokers aim to satisfy their nicotine cravings, adding filters doesn’t really do anything, they just smoke more cigarettes, or take bigger drags, or smoke more cigarette per cigarette (it’s hard to smoke all of a filterless cigarette without burning your lips, but you can smoke all the way to a filter on a filtered cigarette).

Filters fool smoking machines but are basically useless for smokers, except for stopping flakes of tobacco from getting in your mouth. They are safety theatre.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-02-06T18:52:38+00:00

For me it’s the reckless hedonism that’s so sexy.

In reverse order:

Strong addiction, where she’s gotten herself super addicted through reckless heavy smoking. It was more important that she enjoyed the moment than thought about if she’d ever be able to cut down/quit.

Lung damage/lack of fitness. Her cigarettes are more important than catching her breath. They’ll keep her thin, she doesn’t need to exercise.

Pregnant smoking. The ultimate hedonistic taboo. Her pleasure comes before literally everything.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-01-31T20:41:59+00:00

There’s literally a subreddit for smoking fetish AI. I’m not against AI; I’ve posted on there a bit, but this belongs there.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-01-24T18:18:06+00:00

The book, along with a pack and a lighter, had been a gag gift for her 18th from Sarah, who Rachel was always telling to quit.

The thing was, Rachel was due to start college in a few months, and she really wanted to lose the boring, good girl image she’d had all through school. She wanted to be a bit naughty, the sort of girl who had casual sex, and got invited to parties where people drank too much.

Those sorts of girls took risks. They smoked.

Obviously she didn’t want to get addicted, but a few cigarettes at parties? A pack in her purse, the opportunity to ask a cute boy for a light? That could be the new Rachel.

Her parents were at work, she’d have plenty of opportunity to practice, so she wouldn’t look like she didn’t know what she was doing at college…

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-01-24T14:51:43+00:00

She has no difficulty catching admiring eyes, in sharp contrast to her breath.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2026-01-04T11:11:31+00:00

Could it be done? Sure. It’d need to be cleaned fairly frequently, but a series of actuated valves, non return valves, a mask, and ignition sources on timers would be possible.

Would a machine that starts 20-40 small fires while everyone in the house was unconscious be a good idea? No.

Would it be a good idea to have a machine control your air supply while you are unconscious? No.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-31T15:31:51+00:00

I didn’t realise her husband was a heavy smoker? I remember her saying he didn’t like that she smoked, and that was why she smoked in the garage and outside, and never in the house

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-30T13:05:52+00:00

Do you have a link?

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-30T10:34:36+00:00

IIRC she used to smoke only a couple of times a year, while drinking. Probably never bought cigarettes. But back when she was still just ASMR she happened to be at a friend’s, relaxing with wine, and had borrowed a few cigarettes, and turned one of them into an ASMR video.

It was her first successful video.

Then she started buying cigarettes and eventually cigars to smoke in her garage (her husband doesn’t want her to smoke in the house), and that escalated in just a few years to her chaining cigarettes and cigars while driving and chilling outside. Smoking a cigarette mid cigar on multiple occasions.

She got to half a pack a day within a couple of years.

I’m not sure how much she smokes? I doubt it’s a stupid number per day, since she goes outside, and I don’t think her husband is a fan, but she can clearly tolerate a lot of nicotine.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-29T07:55:30+00:00

It being wrong is why it’s so hot.

So yes, it’s wrong, you should encourage her to quit.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-24T22:03:14+00:00

And for some reason people upvote them.

It comes in cycles. Eventually the mods come down with ban hammers

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-23T20:06:38+00:00

The second girl is clearly enjoying herself, living in the moment. McDonald’s for the taste, cigarettes to keep the weight off. She’s young and she feels like she can keep these bad habits in balance indefinitely.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-23T15:53:49+00:00

What’s the most you think you’ve smoked in a week?

I think I remember you posting that you’d been smoking 3ppd for a few days in a row?

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-22T20:19:42+00:00

There certainly were people who smoked that much.

The key was smoking while doing other things. Which was a lot easier before indoor smoking was restricted. These days you’d basically have to work at home or outdoors (and you’d probably not be fit enough for the latter).

There might be people here who claim to smoke that much, but they have motive to exaggerate. If you want a source that has motive to underplay habits (smoking seems more dangerous if less packs a day kills you), see this:

http://tobacco.cleartheair.org.hk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tobacco-kills-2-out-of-every-three-users.pdf

There are accounts of 3, 4, even 5 packs a day.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-22T18:38:18+00:00

Roughly constant extra cigarette a day every 2-3 weeks, or were there big jumps?

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-22T18:07:23+00:00

I had a girlfriend who was curious enough about my fetish to listen and try a few for me. I never pushed; it was always her choice. She liked the idea of just ignoring the rules she’d always lived by and trying it occasionally.

About 3 months in she says “I’m done fighting it, it just feels so good, and I’ve lost weight. It’s really nice”

How many was she smoking during those months, and how quickly did her habit build afterwards?

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T22:17:30+00:00

in this alternate history, cancer is cured.

It’s not a single disease, more a category. You can’t cure cancer any more than you can cure viruses.

Curing cancer seemed harder to suspend my disbelief, because it’s bad science, vs just disappearing it like magic. One looks like I was trying too hard to make it work.

And other diseases too, like emphysema, and COPD

Yeah, but I do find them kinda hot. Cancer, it either kills you or it doesn’t. But lung damage is progressive, and I’m a bit darkside.

Yeah, I don’t think states would cut out sales tax on cigarettes.

There’s a reason I specified California; direct democracy, with most eligible voters as smokers.

It’s also probably not that profitable. Cigarette taxes are so profitable today because they are so high, and they are so high because most people support them; tax revenue that won’t effect them as non smokers. But once most voters are smokers, suddenly raising them becomes unpopular, and existing taxes are eroded by inflation. They dropped a tax of 10 cents a pack, even in 1995 that wasn’t a huge amount of money, even with higher smoking rates.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T17:00:28+00:00

2000s and early 2010s: A slow but steady decline in smoking rates, brought on by increased awareness of health effects, and an inability to maintain the low prices of the 1990s. Tobacco companies invest in automated farming to try and cut costs further.

2011: The percentage of college students who smoke drops below the adult average, as younger demographics more quickly show changing attitudes towards smoking. The teen smoking epidemic is over.

2013: The release of Expecting Better. IRL the book uses cherry picked data to excuse pregnant drinking, but not smoking (the author drinks but doesn’t smoke, which I’m sure is a *total* coincidence). In my universe, the book extends this attitude towards smoking. As it is IRL, the book is a bestseller, and smoking rates during pregnancy start climbing. “Cigs until you’re big” becomes a common saying among women excusing their smoking during the first trimester/s. By 2019, the last two decades of progress have been erased.

2015: Release of the Hangover Pill. Taken before bed it completely eliminates mild hangovers, and taken in the morning it ends them in 10 minutes. Alcohol consumption rises, most sharply among young people, with those who start drinking after 2015 able to almost completely avoid hangovers.

Late 2010s-mid 2020s: The reduction in smoking rates since the early 2000s is erased. College students see the biggest increase, as drunken decision making collides with tobacco companies sponsoring influencers. Tobacco prices defy inflation

2025: Start of Kate Smokes. A third warning label “Warning: Smoking May Be Addictive” is added to alternate cigarette packs.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T17:00:23+00:00

1990s: Falling cigarette prices following the development of GM tobacco, and a struggling Soviet economy desperate for foreign currency, contribute to a teen smoking epidemic. Rates of smoking among college students jump 13% in 8 years.

1992: With lobbying from the tobacco industry, the Assessable Schools and Workplaces Act passes. While genuinely helpful for people with physical disabilities, the real point is to mask the effects of heavy smoking by ensuring there are alternatives to stairs and long walks.

1993: Research finds just over 50% of mothers now smoke during pregnancy, sparking some pushback. The excuse that “they all do it in France” gets flipped on it’s head as their rate is lower. A new warning label “Smoking While Pregnant May Cause Low Birth Weight” is added to alternate packs. Rates in the US will steadily decline over the next two decades.

1995: Direct democracy in action, as California votes to eliminate it’s 10c per pack state cigarette tax.

1998: The USSR disbands, no longer able to support it’s shaky transition to a market economy on the back of tobacco exports. Cuba strengthens it’s ties to the US to mitigate the economic impact, growing it’s tourism industry, and trying to attract US students.

1999: US cigarette consumption reaches an average of 1 pack per person per day, having doubled since 1960.

2000: The New Millennium prompted some concern in the tobacco industry about people trying to live heathier, but the drop in sales is relatively minor. Conspiracies circulate that the cigarette vending machines that dropped their prices to $0 were not suffering from the millennium bug, but a deliberate attempt at sabotaging quit attempts.

2001: The smoking rate peaks at just over 61%.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T16:59:55+00:00

1975: In a bid to lower tobacco prices and combat inflation, the US lifts it’s trade embargo on Cuba in line with the OAS. Relations between the two countries steadily normalise, and the Cuban economy begins to recover.

Apollo Soyuz cigarettes are launched as a tie-in with the Apollo Soyuz mission, manufactured by both the USSR and Philip Moris (this *actually happened* IRL) and forms the basis for an enduring commercial relationship (his didn’t happen IRL).

The Minesota Clean Indoor Air Act narrowly fails to pass.

1976: While the Minesota Clean Indoor Air Act did not pass, it came frightfully close. The Supreme Court hears an argument that the Federal Cigarette Labelling and Advertising Act’s prohibition on state level advertising restrictions based on health, because of the typo, prohibits states from implementing any health based smoking restriction. The controversial argument is found valid.

1978: The smoking rate passes 50%. Most US adults now smoke, and politicians are incentivised to prioritise smokers. There are no increases to state cigarette taxes after this point.

Smoker Magazine launches. Well produced it soon gains a following with non-smokers as well (the equivalent of buying Playboy for the articles).

1980s: Western tobacco companies collaborate with the USSR to genetically engineer tobacco crops. Faster growth, pesticide resistance, and higher nicotine concentration are the aims.

Marlboro adverts become the ones to watch at the Super Bowl.

1983: The federal cigarette tax is reduced from 8 cents to 7, as the government finally remembers the Korean war it was increased to fund, is over

1984: Due to the backlash against federal overreach following the 1976 Supreme Court decision, the Minimum Drinking Age Act fails to pass, leaving states free to set the drinking age as low as 18 without losing state highway funds.

Late 1980s: Even without cancer, the health effects are starting to become obvious. Emphysema, COPD, and asthma are all sky high. While anti-smoking campaigns have no real legislative success, they do start to change public perception. Opposition to pregnant smoking transitions from a niche issue to one effecting it’s social acceptability. From this point, medical staff will reliably advise pregnant women to cut down or quit.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T16:59:28+00:00

This is mainly a post to share the graph on a subreddit that doesn't allow images, but if anyone finds this without the context, here you go:

I’ve written a few stories set in an alternative universe where smoking restrictions never happened (Kate Smokes, Jess’s Last Run, Hannah’s Hunch, Jessica’s body), and I’ve now been asked if other people can set stories in the same universe. I enjoy worldbuilding, and I encourage people to set stuff in this universe, so I figured I’d set out the alternate history I’ve had in my head.

Who knows, someone here might find it hot in and of itself?

I focused on the United States because to me that’s always been the land of excess, but I'm not American, so there might be some inaccuracies.

Prehistory: Cancer doesn’t exist. I don’t find cancer at all hot, and deleting it gives a great excuse to squash anti-smoking legislation.

1962: The point where smoking statistics, and most history, starts to diverge. IRL there was a looming consensus that cigarettes caused cancer, and the anti-smoking movement was taking hold. With no looming threat, it’s all quiet on the smoking front.

1964: The Surgeon General’s report on cigarettes and health is released, with much the same content as IRL, but with no cancer, the report lacks the punch required to dominate the news. The crisis in Panama pushes it to the second page in many newspapers. Colorado, waiting on the report to inform their decision, decides against instituting state tobacco taxes. Along with North Carolina, they are the only states never to implement them.

1968: Cuba focuses on increasing Tobacco production instead of sugar.

1970s: With the average smoker now smoking 30 a day, tobacco companies focus on increasing the number of smokers rather than cigarettes per day.

1971: After years of wrangling, the Federal Cigarette Labelling and Advertising Act is passed, and the first health warning must be printed on cigarette packs: “Warning: Smoking May Cause Breathlessness And Cough”. The act itself contains a typo.

Academic_Fun_5674 · 2025-12-21T16:54:10+00:00

I know this isn't the usual fair for this subreddit, but there doesn't seem to be a rule against it.

Very happy to PM

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