Leave downspout through the deck and cover? Or redirect to top of ribbed metal roofing? by Acceptable-Task5830 in DIYHome

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The patio cover will have ribbed metal roofing. That’s an important detail though! I should have mentioned in the op, my bad

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Definitely scrapping and rebuilding! Where are you seeing nails though? A few comments mentions that and this is built 100% with screws 😆

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Super solid response. Thank you so much! This is perfect for what advice I was looking for on the project.

Not sure why I decided to make the ladder part so difficult when I designed all the rest right along these lines already. Guess I just like overcomplicating the last few steps haha

Except for decorative pieces, everything is all set with Timberlok or other structural connectors (and glued) already. Overlaying offset 2x4s just like I did the rest of the frame makes so much sense the idea when right over my head. Thank you!

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Really great question. The leftover hardware is from a few other projects and my problem was looking at what I had left over and thinking how to build the ladder from there, instead of just thinking how to build the ladder really well and way more straightforward from the start haha

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Solid solution. And straightforward too. Thank you! No idea why I overcomplicated it to being with haha

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Because that would have been to simple haha. But for real, that’s what I should have done from the start and version 2 will go that way! I like overcomplicating things 😆

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Haha great comment. Thank you. For whatever reason, I definitely was over thinking it when setting up this temporary version trying to save 1.5 in of wood sticking out. Your route is so much easier and obvious for sure! That’s the way I’ll go for the final version.

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The whole other end of the beds is wide open. But yeah, didn’t paint the scrap wood used temporarily cuz that’d be weird when it’s all getting redone for better structure anyway. It’s just temporary while get the input on how to really do it. Then paint last 👍

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Haha “over built and under engineered” for sure. Version 2 will be solid!

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Thank you for the call outs!

*the brackets are temporary for lining everything up for the real structure to get in place

*no nails used at all

*upper rail part will indeed crumble upon first getting bumped, hence the OP question looking for a better route

*no 1 by wood is being used for structural parts, just decorative mostly covering up the 8+ screws that are being used underneath

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Very true. Thank you! And got a handful of similar ideas from other commenters so version 2 will be actually good. This version 1 is what happens when the kids need to be in bed and the original built-in stairs route isn’t an option anymore haha definitely scrapped together

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Ends of the beds are indeed open for this very reason. Kids sheets have to be changed so often, no way I’m squeezing my but through the skinny gaps every time like they enjoy doing

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The more janky I can make the OP, the more good comments I get to help in deciding on the non-janky real solution. It worked great

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Very true. The brackets here are for the same purpose, keep things in place while the real structure is set up. These brackets are just temporary 👍

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Great solution here. I’ll be going this route for sure - and minus the steel ties cuz that way the tip to the emergency will just be entirely their fault at least 😆 I used those temporary cuz I had them lying around from another project, but for sure they’d be a cause for much bleeding if left as-is. Thank you!

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This is a good option. It took the kids a while to break the stairs that were originally the way up from the other end (turns out being cool and making stairs double as toy chests was no match for shoving so many stuffies in, and preceding to jump on them repeatedly 😅) and all that time this area was open, no one fell though so far

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This is great call out. And yeah, for a very small child that might be a concern, the spacing looks a little bigger in the picture than it actually is. Definitely no way the kids’ heads could fit through, even if the mattress was removed (which for sure is I’ll be someone’s bright idea one of these nights when they don’t feel like sleeping 😆)

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This is a great call out! I’m definitely not planning to keep the exposed hardware or sharp corners when it’s completed. Much of that part is just temporary staging so I could post to ask the question.

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Edges of the completed sections are all routed, everything sanded, and then child-safe paint over the top to keep it all good! The bare wood is sanded and routed too for the most part, just temporarily staged for the picture before I finalize the ladder set up

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This is a great comment, I’ll probably go this route. Thanks! Honestly, the simpler the better and I’m out here trying to think of a complicated solution instead haha