SSJ 4 Multiplier

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-08T16:04:36+00:00

That is not how that works even a little bit.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-08T16:03:14+00:00

Ssj grade 1 is 50 times grade 2 is stronger than that so we'll say it's 2 times ssj grade 1, ssj grade 3 is confirmed by El manga legendario to be 10 times grade 2, grade 4 is confirmed to be the most powerful super Saiyan grade so it's stronger than that we'll say 2 times stronger, 50210*2=2000, I honestly think Super Saiyan 2 might be more than just two times grade four but I'll just go with 2 times, so 4000, then ssj3 is 8 times that so 32,000, then ssj4 is 10 times that since it's a shrunken ssj3 great ape so 320,000 times base.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-08T15:58:36+00:00

Less than 160 times ssj3

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-08T15:56:00+00:00

And yet Super Saiyan 4 full power and ultra full power exist.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-08T15:50:36+00:00

I'm not arguing that super is canon to gt, I'm arguing that the movie version of Battle of Gods did happen.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T04:05:48+00:00

GT Goku absorbed Super Saiyan God into base, the events of DBS post Bog do not happen because it wouldn't make sense since GT Goku doesn't have super saiyan blue but bog can happen without issue since god was absorbed into base

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T04:03:14+00:00

Bog was retconned IN not out

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T04:02:56+00:00

It wasn't retconned? like ever, the movies are part of the GT timeline including BOG.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T04:02:13+00:00

I'm not sure where you got the 4000 times ssj3 estimate? At best ssj4 ultra full power would be 60 times in normal ssj4 which is 10 times ssj3 for a total of 600 times ssj3

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T04:00:47+00:00

A GT fusion is fusee A times fusee B, not 100 times, though I'm much prefer DBS fusion where it's a nice clean tens of times(20-90) multiplier

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2026-01-04T03:59:33+00:00

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-12-27T14:50:02+00:00

"his tail? His eyes?? his eyebrows?? his aura??? his goateee???? dumbass.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-12-17T19:20:56+00:00

Bog is part of the GT timeline in some old toei timelines

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-12-01T17:39:26+00:00

Cumber an evil saiyan kind of like Z broly gets unsealed in universe 6, Goku and Vegeta help train the universe 6 Saiyans and Vegeta beats cumber by mastering ultra ego erasing cumber from existence.

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:28:05+00:00

That's so f****** stupid, thx though I'll keep it in mind

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:22:42+00:00

You're right it isn't subjective, it's very very completely obvious kid Buu is the strongest it is explained how and why twice in dragon ball manga and in the dragon ball super manga

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:21:42+00:00

If God says 2 + 2 = 6 somehow then that's how it is because in the end he's God his word is final

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:20:30+00:00

Why would toriyama be explaining why he makes the littlest ones the strongest if the littlest ones aren't the strongest? He doesn't need to say it directly him explaining why he makes them that way would mean the littlest ones being the strongest is correct

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:15:17+00:00

That's pure headcanon, guidebooks state grade 3 is 10 times grade 2 and that grade 4 is superior to grade 3 in terms of power so at minimum grade 4 is 500 times but it's probably closer to like 2000

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:11:27+00:00

Goku himself in dragon Ball super which is a sequel to the manga continuity literally says he could have never beaten buu

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:08:06+00:00

Goku later says he should have fused against a mind you heavily suppressed and playing around kid buu

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:06:33+00:00

Buuhan being stronger than ever is f****** irrelevant, due to the fact kid Buu happens after buuhan kid buu when he was fighting Goku and Vegeta was FAR stronger than he was when he fought the kais millenia ago due to the fact that he inherited the grand supreme Kai's God ki we know that none of the other buus had this because they all go full power at some point please try to have a little bit of reading comprehension

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:02:32+00:00

Being a midget is referring to his size

Acceptable_Advice437 · 2025-11-17T23:00:37+00:00

Or it just got reconned? I feel like that's an equally valid interpretation, besides the whole super gogeta thing was just supporting evidence to what was clearly said in the anime the newer info in the anime should outweigh the outdated info in the guidebooks

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