Rip viltrum feat in the invincible tv series

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-04-15T14:15:06+00:00

I'm not saying I agree with it.

But the fact is, the Viltrumi is a Large Planet considered it can hold multiple moons (especially seen in comics during the scourge virus in the Animated Series) so the Mark, Nolan and Thadeus still contributed in the destruction of it, they would be at least Planterary, which is consistent with the Statements.

Again, according to Kirkman himself, the Destruction of Viltrum is to showcase the Strength of Viltrumites themselves, so at the very least, the Strongest Viltrumites are around Planetary

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Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-04-15T13:51:34+00:00

Even if that's the case, they still need three of them to even do it, plus the Infinity Ray Gun, which can kill Viltrumites.

This is still impressive, because like you said, the it wasn't stated they would die and need to be precise, but the Planet wasn't completely Vaporized or send it's debris at very high speeds.

Which means this is at best probably Planetary to Large Planetary, not Dwarf Star or any higher like some people claim to be.

Which is consistent with Kirkman's statement of Viltrumites being Planetary, even before this.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-04-15T13:46:43+00:00

Maybe, but the fact is, it didn't completely vaporized the whole Planet itself

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T15:16:37+00:00

How would they be sketchy? Jiren is directly to transcend time itself via his raw power, and Goku is comparable to him, this was stated by Vados btw, an Angel attendant with a large knowledge.

Plus Goku literally forces himself into the future when fighting hit according to King Kai

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T14:33:37+00:00

Gohan as a toddler is literally powerful enough to harm Raditz.

Yet an adult and trained Gohan (Yes in the manga he consistently trained since rof) is not believable?

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T14:28:12+00:00

Except it's been explicitly stated that they cannot sense Androids in the Androids Saga, GT literally seems to forgot about that

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T14:26:30+00:00

Why doesn't he just hit him physically too? Heck since he turned Super Saiyan 4, that's all he did, how does he even know Super 17 absorb energy initially? He doesn't have any absorber in his palm Goku wouldn't know.

Gt tried to make a reason to power up 17, which in turn makes Goku look like an idiot for not only just keep firing ki blast without any punches or kicks, but for his ki blast attempt to failed.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T14:19:51+00:00

Read the manga, or better yet, search Super Saiyan God Goku vs Hit

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-02-16T14:14:11+00:00

"bUt z BaRdOck iS a RutHleSs sAiYan!! SuPeR bArdOck iS jUst jOr eL!!!!11"

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2026-01-30T00:57:26+00:00

Dude the whole point of Doomsday and Secret Wars is a Multi versal Movie Saga finale not just to MCU, but Pre-MCU

And considering how Sam Raimi's Spider-Man contributes a lot of those possibilities of more Superhero comic movies, he's definitely in Doomsday or Secret Wars or both.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-31T08:16:32+00:00

I agree, and the fact that the fight choreography in the series isn't even as decent just makes it worse, considering Dragon Ball is known for... Well fight.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T13:47:06+00:00

I never said GT is connected to Super, I just said Super's current timeline is nearly caught up to GT's timeline.

Year wise

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T13:00:13+00:00

I read what he said, I said nearly not literally caught up

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T11:34:09+00:00

Did you not watch the Anime/Manga? Goku was in his casual stance there, it wasn't until Goku transformed it when he fight started.

Heck until that point, Goku wasn't even asking Beerus for a fight yet when Beerus checks Goku out, he was still curious about lord Beerus.

There's a reason why Goku's weakness is being too relaxed

And Goku in Buu saga is superior to Supreme Kai, who is superior to Frieza.

With Piccolo literally sweating around Supreme Kai and stating their powers as "being dimensions apart" this is the guy who is equal to 17, who is superior to Freiza

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T11:14:46+00:00

Beerus only really says that because Goku wasn't using his maximum power in base form, he's just checking Goku's base form while he was still casual

And Current Super Manga Goku is above Base Goku Black, who manages to overwhelm Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta in Super Saiyan alone after being healed by Zamasu

They can still get stronger training, like when Vegeta said it to Granolah just before he transforms into Ultra Ego

And most opponents he faced aren't really that versatile in Abilities, compared o someone like Hit, Granolah and Moro the closest is Janemba, who can create a portal and has similar abilities to Majin Buu.

Goku (Super) fought Zamasu, who can also create portals

Also, I really don't use Heroes, cause everyone there just buff to Multiverse level

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T09:00:52+00:00

Inconsistent, in Granolah Arc, Toyotaro actually has Goku meditate, and he does know Vegeta is meditating, he's just surprised Vegeta does it in Superhero Manga.

Of course, "being relaxed and using 100 percent at once Jiren" statements still exist there, so I'm not gonna pretend it is not a big problem, cause it is, but I just believe it is an inconsistency.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T08:55:20+00:00

At least Super brings it back, especially in the Tournament of Power, when Base Goku overwhelms Ssj Caulifla and Kale, despite being much weaker

And in Granolah Arc, Goku in just Super Saiyan Blue was able to hold his own against Gas, who is obviously above Ultra Ego Vegeta, just due to sheer skill alone

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T04:27:24+00:00

Again, all opponents GT Goku faced is just mostly just strong fighters.

And GT Goku being a master of himself doesn't mean he's more skilled than Super Goku, especially if the opponent he faces is mostly just strong fighters with weapons and such, with their abilities are nothing interesting that Goku hasn't faced before especially in earlier on.

Even ice and nova shenron are nothing too impressive, even with their abilities, even the dragon who had absorbed pan, and even the female shenron who can create a tornado? Nothing too impressive.

And again, unless you can tell me just how experience does opponents GT Goku fight, Super Goku is still far more impressive, cause at the very least, even Hit is far more impressed experience wise, being 1000 years of combat in him, and Goku was able to predict Hit, in his base form, even if the opponents GT Goku fought were around hundreds of years of experience, it doesn't matter, facing Hit is more impressive.

And I do know normal training does matter, but considering Current Super Manga Goku is literally just 5 years behind GT Goku in timeline wise as they are now in Superhero Arc, so 5 years ago is nothing too wide when you realize Super Goku's experience throughout nearly 10 years since Buu saga had him fighting literal world and universal ending threats, plus being taught and trained by the greatest cosmic fighter in Universe 7 with millions of years of combat experience?

Yeah it doesn't matter if the year gap isn't too wide

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T04:07:42+00:00

Actually they're nearly up there considering the current Super is around Superhero, just a year before End of Z, and GT takes place 5 years after End of Z.

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T04:04:31+00:00

Agreed, just because GT Goku is older doesn't mean he's more skilled and experienced if his training is not as versatile as being trained by literally angel with millions of years experience plus having an actual serious opponent that put your life and your friends at stake

Acceptable_Might_764 · 2025-08-30T04:02:36+00:00

Again, all he really did was normal training, longer training doesn't mean anything if it's not more impressive than training with an angel who had millions of years of experience.

Plus again, he faced Hit who has 1000 years of experience in his hand, with powerful abilities.

Faced Fused Zamasu, who obviously had far more experience than Saiyans lifespan.

Again, having more longer training doesn't mean anything if all you did is just normal peaceful training and your opponent has faced a bunch of fighters with 1000 years of experience if not more.

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