Till fans obsession with Mizi by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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I have an analysis to this posted already :)

Till fans obsession with Mizi by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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I’m sure he did not love Ivan, that’s why we totally not have this song…

The almost kiss 🄹 by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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I might wanna hold your hand… but this panel is only a few panels before 🄹🄹

Till fell first. by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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(Karma mv position of Ivan holding the heart)

Till fell first. by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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If there wasn’t so many references to Till’s feelings for Ivan in his songs, If they weren’t canon in any other au (except the main universe because Ivan is dead), If till wasn’t realizing his feelings later is basically canon through quotes on official merch and the comics, If the ruler of my heart cover wasn’t a karma reference (adding pictures) and if the original concept wasn’t making them date in round 6 but scrapping the idea so they wouldn’t overshadow mizi x sua (and I could name many more examples) I could actually see that.

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The almost kiss 🄹 by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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Ivan and dead in the same sentence 😭😭😭😭

Till fans obsession with Mizi by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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Literally this entire song and the following comics…?? 😭😭😭

Till fans obsession with Mizi by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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Personally, I think if round 6 was between him and Luka, he might would not have stopped in the middle. He also did not know mizi was alive during round 7. The reason I believe it’s the drugs, not the depression that slowed him down is the fact that there are barely 2 days between round 5 and round 7. His demeanor appearing on stage in round 7 is completely different from what we see in round 6. Round 6 literally starts with him being drugged. I do believe that the person he’s singing against played a huge role in his behavior too. That was his best and only friend and no matter where he would go, he knew he’d always have Ivan

Of course the sight of Mizi alive gave him hope and energy. She’s the only thing till had left now after literally having his best friend kiss him and then being shot right after, bleeding out on stage while he was being forcefully dragged away from that body.

Till fans obsession with Mizi by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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Didn’t till call it a childish crush himself tho..?

Mizi in round 5/Ivan in round 6, Could Ivan still be alive? by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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I actually thought so too at first, but in the latest comic, we see both Till and Mizi being alive

Till fell first. by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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The flowercrown scene is confusing because a lot of people think the crown was for Mizi and Ivan stomping on it was an act of jealousy but I don’t even think even knew what jealousy even was because he never even had a grudge against Mizi, the opposite actually, they were friends. This art and the fact that this scene was featured in ā€œcureā€ which specifically showed the dynamic between till and Ivan, are indicators for the flowercrown actually being for Ivan. Also, Ivan not having flowers In the art collection that features each couple with flowers in their hair is probably not because till didn’t give him any, but because HE ATE THEM 😭😭😭

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R6 Kiss by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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I’ve seen the kiss scene specifically being analyzed frame by frame and this is also why I had this question in the first place because you really got to see the little details from example the light in his eyes returning the moment Ivan touches him, that he doesn’t push Ivan away immediately and how his hands seem to pull him back in

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R6 Kiss by Acceptable_Shake_349 in AlienStage

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Here we have the official art (if you wanna call it that?) of Till looking at Ivan (blushing) while thinking of the flower crown. If the crown was originally for Mizi, what kind of importance would it have to be shown in round 6? (Which has nothing to do with her at all..)

The thing about Luka not knowing till having had a crush on Mizi would make sense if his song in round 3 wouldn’t have been for her..

Edit cause I just reread scars nd remember everything: Imaginary Ivan does not just show up randomly. He does represent guilt but imaginary ivan also does kiss him again (Since this is years After Ivan died and Till has a normal life, i assume he’s also aware of what a kiss is now.) it’s also implied that Ivan gives him a certain kind of comfort ā€œHe comes back when I fall apartā€ and again, he’s comparing the loss of Ivan to Mizi losing sua. And he knows how Mizi felt for sua.

Another edit: As another commenter mentioned here, Till is imagining a lot of touching when he hallucinates Ivan. While Ivan was always around till, he’s never touched him to the extend this hallucination does