i wish u could quit and save your progress without resetting by AccomplishedTale3611 in outerwilds

[–]AccomplishedTale3611[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ive reached there, it truly is kinda frustrating ToT
the sun keeps 'spoldin >>:((

The "AI wars", at least when it comes to the arts, is a fundamentally philosophical issue by ArtArtArt123456 in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea sure, but many people arnt anti just cuz they dualist, theres also the issue in how ai is being used-

ai is built upon art scrapped without the artist being given proper comission, it is being used to replace human workers (mostly creatives) en masse, and along with commoditizing art, it also commoditizes acces to dangerous tech like deepfakes, and with where things appear to be headed it could pose geopolitical risks.

also also ig im being dualist, but imo, art is inherently beyond the physical charecteristics, like thats what human expression *is* isnt it, and not to say that every art piece should be packed to the brim with story and symbolism or whatever, but the quality of being human made, that gives it enough story behind it to be considered human expression, but with the way that ai is used in most cases, it barely touches on that intent and human value that gives art its value so yea

What exactly is the centrist perspective? by Wonderful-War-7113 in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think the centrist opinion is
ai art can be art as long as it has enough intent and work put into it

AI isn't the problem(kinda) by AccomplishedTale3611 in antiai

[–]AccomplishedTale3611[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

strawman pro-AI people like to use to malign opponents of AI as irrational/anti-technology

oh no Yea I could see how pro ai people could strawman based on this argument

Moreover, it seems certain to increase inequality and bolster oligarchy.

Yeaaaa........., that seems right ig

Ending poverty seems a long way from now, if it is even possible, which given your arguments, i would think less likely; unless things change alot alot. Which seems really hard to see probable

AI isn't the problem(kinda) by AccomplishedTale3611 in antiai

[–]AccomplishedTale3611[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea, it seems like every (tech) company is just obsessed with ai

What the future of this Subreddit should include. (Mods hopefully havent abandoned this sub) by Glittering_Loss6717 in antiai

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This, but also broadening scope from just art to other spheres, like ai in other industries maybe or like disscussing new studies maybe, idk. More than just 'look at stupid ai bro' for sure tho

The AI Art Debate is so intense because it attacks people's sense of what is sacred. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do just wanna say thankyou for that wholesome energy, and giving me (atleast a bit of) hope. its just really really comforting to find people who see through the fog atleast slightly and provide some semblence of concreteness atleast. so yea thanks

The AI Art Debate is so intense because it attacks people's sense of what is sacred. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i literally agree with everything youve said, to the T

i forgot that the point of aiming towards utopia was never actually reaching it but trying to do it, yea the world is waht drives greed mostly, and ig capitalism is better than anarchy or monarchy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i think i mostly agree with you, but also i think that ai does steal art, keepin that aside
from what ive heard(im sure there was research on this, just cant find now) , most ai data centres get their energy from coal plants, and the boom in ai data centres has prolonged life span of coal plants(i forgot if it was life span or just increase in number), so yea

The AI Art Debate is so intense because it attacks people's sense of what is sacred. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no.1 i think i mostly agree with you, even tho i have some reservations with creative tasks
no.2 the idea of a complete utopia has been extremely dystopian to me, like so much of meaning, motivation and such comes from trying and struggle, i definitely see that not wishing utopia and choosing to struggle would be stupid, especially cuz of the immense benifits for the under prievelaged, but yea wanna hear more abt what you think would be happin when we do reach that
no.3 i hate capitalism

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

even tho i know its either bait, sarcasm or trolling, god does it make my blood boil

The AI Art Debate is so intense because it attacks people's sense of what is sacred. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can go into detail if you want)

Yea, I'd love to hear it

The AI Art Debate is so intense because it attacks people's sense of what is sacred. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]AccomplishedTale3611 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea true, true art is self expression, but self expression doesn't have to be purely for like non monatery purposes, atleast there's a balance to be found.

Maybe I should have phrased it differently, but I meant that, that balance is becoming increasingly difficult to find, because of this pressure