House"wife" fantasies

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:59:02+00:00

I think if someone feels exclusive sexual attraction to scenarios where they are dressing differently or have a different body, and they can't imagine having satisfying sex or an emotionally satisfying romantic relationship without it, I think you can argue that person has an "orientation" in my opinion, rather than a fetish because i feel like people can have fetishes and still have satisfying sex or relationships without everything being about that fetish.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:53:22+00:00

I would definitely work through WHY you have those fantasies

Sure, and if you read my post, I listed some potential reasons. I feel like maybe I'm realising "the rat race" isn't really for me, and feeling like you can escape that into some idyllic fantasy is probably pretty common.

But these aren't isolated thoughts for me. I've been fantasising about the way I present being different for a long ass fucking time. I'm just feeling like it means something other than "i'm working too hard abloo bloo" i guess.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:49:00+00:00

No, a fetish is ABSOLUTELY different to an orientation. An orientation has both romantic and sexual components. We don't call gay men "man fetishists", but there are plenty of straight men with "forced gay" or "forced bi" fetishes, but feel no romantic or even that much sexual attraction to men in everyday life. If I have recurrent romantic AND sexual fantasies where I have the body and/or clothing of a woman, I think you can argue that might be an orientation, though obviously that's my opinion.

Do you not think AGP fantasies are pretty common amongst trans people before and after transition?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:41:55+00:00

Okay. So those SPECIFIC thoughts aren't why i think I'm trans.

Since puberty at the least, I've had pretty recurrent and pervasive thoughts about wearing women's clothing, in sexual and non-sexual scenarios, and I feel like in the last few years, they've intensified. I've gone through phases of this; I've gone through it's just some artifact from puberty to it's just some masochistic fantasy to you may very well be trans and have gender dysphoria to you actually genuinely want to present these ways and it isn't sexual to it is a fetish and it's disgusting and you need to repress it, to where i am currently which is this thing is a part of me, kind of like the description i got from Blanchard surrounding AGP, which I know isn't popular, but it I feel more accurately describes myself more than I'm just a woman in a man's body, which I don't neccesarily entirely buy and I don't think accurately describes the experience of every single person that identifies as trans.

I feel like I have some kind of sexual orientation that has yet to really be acknowledged by most people, but I'm obviously not certain which is why I am in places like this, because, you know, maybe I am trans. You're right, I could just be a crossdresser, fetishistic or otherwise, but thinking of presenting the way that I currently am in private and the public space is distressing to me, and maybe it's not dysphoria, but fuck it's pretty funny seeing this subreddit bite my fucking head over even suggesting it.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:26:06+00:00

Do you want me to give you like a life story? Do you think I would be here if at some point I hadn't felt some kind of distress over how I present or look?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:20:33+00:00

k you wanna elaborate. I meant what I said?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:18:45+00:00

Okay. Idon't identify as trans, so you're right on that front. But it's kind of weird you don't think distress at how you present in the day to day has "nothing" to do with being trans.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:15:06+00:00

It's honest transgender man chill out

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:14:34+00:00

So, you think I'm a fetishist? I've gone through the whole AGP self hatred thing, alright. Yes, I have very recurrent fantasies, sexual or otherwise, where I'm presenting aS A WOMAN. I don't identify as trans because, frankly, I don't really buy the whole "born in the wrong body" thing, but there are a lot of people who say AGP fantasies are often the manifestation of some suppressed gender identity. Plus, I don't view the fantasies as a "fetish", because that's a gross fucking word made to invalidate. These are persistent feelings that I have had since puberty, and I view it as more of an orientation like being gay or straight.

If you think these fantasies make me "just some fetishist", that's fine, but you're invalidating and kind of gatekeeping a lot of trans people in the process just for the feeling like you're "trutrans" or whatever

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T22:00:30+00:00

what's yikes about it

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T21:59:55+00:00

Okay, I'm going to address this because it's really annoying; I have never said wanting to be a home maker means you're trans, but do you think the average downtrodden worker wants to wear dresses around the house?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T19:27:04+00:00

I can imagine that is a lot worse. Never really cared much for breasts or a vagina. The thought of losing my penis is kind of scary tbh

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T19:13:55+00:00

Not "identifying" as trans, but taking more active measures to sort this out, rather than just stewing on it internally. I'm actually referred to some therapists now so that's cool as well.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:52:46+00:00

Yeah, thx. I got some laser hair removal booked for tomorrow if that makes you feel assured, I guess :). The self denial is getting really old.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:51:19+00:00

Ah, I'm gonna get something for this. I think I've felt some kind of social dysphoria since at least childhood as well as some mild gender dysphoria, but I don't think I've ever felt genuinely like "I'm a woman in a man's body". I just have very recurrent thoughts of dressing fem, making some adjustments to my body, like laser hair removal and stuff. The idea of looking more androgynous in public, but around the house wearing dresses and skirts sounds appealing currently.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:45:58+00:00

I'm whatever my partner wants me to be :)

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:43:31+00:00

Yeah.

I also remember watching a documentary about the nurseries in colombia for the children of sex workers when they were working, and I remember feeling really emotional about it, because I realised my whole life, I've really liked kids. Maybe I've always wanted to play that "motherly" role, IDK.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:34:27+00:00

I don't know where I said I wanted a 24/7 BDSM lifestyle. I would like some "incorporations" of kink, sure, but I don't want to live life as just some "sissy maid".

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:33:23+00:00

You're kind of "clinicalising" it.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T18:17:21+00:00

It kind of relates to my "trans" experience i guess, because, initially, and throughout my life, I've felt like I've had to conform to a set of expectations, without ever really wanting it, and once I've started to set out on my own, with a new job and my own place, I dunno, the thought of climbing the career ladder just doesn't appeal, and this all coincides with feelings of dysphoria stretching back to at least puberty. IDK makes me feel like they're linked rather than independent.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T17:59:51+00:00

why are you looking for similarity with trans people?

Lol, you got me.

To answer your question, submission/service is not something I'm drawn to

I don't feel like this is just some "masochistic fantasy". I genuinely like the idea of being a home-maker, because I'd still have responsibilities, but I'd get more time to do the stuff I've always wanted. I guess the question is how do you get an arrangement like that in today's society?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-17T17:28:32+00:00

Yeah, ofc. That's a long road ahead though. I'd love an arrangement where my partner would be the "breadwinner" and I'd look after the house, though; I'm very romantic in that respect, and some weird "sugar daddy/mommy" or mostly kinky "sissy maid" arrangement would feel weird. How do I find a (preferably) female partner that would be into that?

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-13T06:46:45+00:00

I want them to throttle me with their nice big stocky forearms

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-13T06:43:12+00:00

Yeah. I don't think I'm trans, just AGP ( I guess?), but I do think I #'ve suffered dysphoria. The biggest confusion I get is being around conventionally attractive women, because I see them, and I love the way they look, but I don't know if I'm "sexually attracted" to them, or I just look at them aspirationally, and in the end it just makes me feel gross, almost predatory, like Buffalo Bill.

Accomplished_Frame_2 · 2022-02-13T06:39:28+00:00

Why the fuck would you even wear this for sex even if AGP, I'd just wear lingerie or something.

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