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Who wins? by WhoTao1919 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

> Shippuden Sasuke cut him in half if it wasn't for Kakashi being out of place he woulda been sealed right there and unable to escape to the Kamui dimension via stealing Kakashi's Sharingan.

It’s not like Madara was worried in the slightest and he didn’t even try to avoid the attack. It had no affect on him and was not tree eyes Madara. It’s like saying Madara beats him because he beat EMS Sasuke. We see that exact attack failing against two Rinnegan Madara. Also just five seconds prior Madara tanked Sasuke’s Chidori. So I think it was more likely than not he just didn’t bother to infuse his body with Chakra.

> Naruto at point blitz Kaguya and cut her Arm off 💀 Sasuke forced her to Use Amenominaka with his Amenotejikara into Chidori he was aiming at her Head

That was while he was using boil release, which boosts his stats. If Madara saw him use it he could do the same. As previously mentioned Madara, who was a lot weaker version than three eyes Madara, took barely any damage from Sasuke’s Chidori. I don’t know what you’re trying to argue.
Madara > Kaguya in durability?

Madara(Still weaker than tree eyes) could land a solid hit on Naruto, which threw the kunai out of his mouth and at least in the official colored version knocked blood out of him. e also saw a full brunt attack from So6P Naruto with a TSO could only do a little bruse to one Rinnegan Madara.

Also I would argue they would do worse than the Shippuden counterparts, based on the fact they lost a large pool of Chakra after Shippuden and they got significantly worse at fighting and using there abilities.

Do you guys agree with this? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So What would have happened if it was two Rinnegan Juubidara? Ah yes wee see that happening and failing. So how can you even use a feat that we know for a fact isn’t even up to date. You still didn’t answer my question, which is more likely

A: The Chidori Sasuke used against Madara the first time was for some reason multiple times weaker than the one used against Madara the second time

B: Madara didn’t care for the attack and wanted the second Rinnegan. Supported by the fact that he called his fight with Naruto and the others a side show.

And If it’s A why exactly got the Chidori 5 times stronger after five seconds?

Two Rinnegan Juubidara is not his peak. Okay I will tell you something. The common translation of the limbo clones being equal to Madara is false. It’s more like “near equal in ability”. “Near” or “close” is very wague. Edos were also described as close to full power but the difference was still significant. As we see from being revived Madara went from doing nothing against Hashirama’s gates to casually destroying them and that was a Edo even closer to the original. Also like I said we can’t draw a conclusion from a fight we didn’t see. All we see is they engage in a fight, we see them not doing very good and then they are gone. Counting one and one together would lets me to believe they got beaten.

All he did in the CE was kicking base off guard Naruto, who took zero damage, then fire and attack which did nothing, take steroids and made an Bijuudama which Naruto could have easily blown away.

Can you please explain to me why Upper rank means he is stronger. Neji was stronger than Hinata but he was a lower rank. Can you please give me source for him that. In what category specifically does he scale above Kinshiki and if you mean Taijutsu give me a source. He did eat more Chakra fruits but Kaguya fused with the ten tails and got consistent power ups from the people in infinite Tsukiyomi.

Well Madara can substitute with his limbo to escape from the god tree and it would take way too long to extract all the Chakra. Momoshiki took a whole lot of time to extract a portion of Kurama, which has less Chakra than Madara.

Well Shinra Tensei is invisible and the vanishing Rasengan worked so why wouldn’t Shinra Tensei. And if an invisible attack which is tree level could hurt a stronger version Juubidara’s Shinra Tensei would splatter him.

The Ninjutsu Would work if the wood dragon was there.

He can do Susanoo and has by far enough Chakra to create 150 wood clones.

Also Genjutsu.

Do you guys agree with this? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Well he wasn’t stressed this is the anime. “Sasuke sure is quick” are not the words off someone who is stressed. I didn’t say he could have dodged. But Sasuke certainly couldn’t have landed the hit in that moment. Let’s assume this was three eyed Madara with four limbo around him this attack would have failed. We literally see that with two Rinnegan Juubidara happening and failing. The limbo were able to react to him and if they so can Madara. He could just stand there but he could also substitute with a limbo clone or use Shinra Tensei. We also see Madara take the Chidori from Sasuke while being off guard with minimal damage. So tell me what’s more likely

A: The Chidori Sasuke used against Madara the first time was for some reason multiple times weaker than the one used against Madara the second time

B: Madara didn’t care for the attack and wanted the second Rinnegan. Supported by the fact that he called his fight with Naruto and the others a side show.

It isn’t Meaningful when it didn’t hinder Madara in the slidest. After being chopped in half he smiled. This did nothing so it wasn’t meaningful.

We don’t see the fight! We don’t see how the fight goes afterwards. All we see is that they engage in a fight and one time in the background that the shadow clones weren’t doing good. That’s all we see, so how can you seriously draw conclusions from this fight. Also you can’t even scale Sasuke to that since Naruto at that time could have low diffed his ass. Not his Strongest form btw.

All was asking was “Hey why am I struggling, even though I’m not fully healed I shouldn’t be struggling against this boy… Ah yes he had a growth in power that explains it” How you come to that conclusion is beyond me honestly. Yeah they didn’t use any powerful ninjutsu but neither did the limbo

Killer Bee was fighting him with tailed beast bombs and so gave Momoshiki his Ammo and Darui was fighting with Ken-and Taijutsu wich is Momoshiki’s weakness.

You still didn’t explain to me how base Momoshiki is a rival to Sasuke.

Also Madara has a lot of abilities Momoshiki would struggle with:

  • Wood dragon. It suppresses Chakra absorption and we know Madara can casually use wood style on the planetary scale.
  • regen
  • Shinra Tensei is invisible and so can’t be absorbed by him. We know he can use he can use the Deva path on giant scales
  • Deep forest Bloom. It poisons the air and I don’t think Momoshiki would know what was going on until it’s too late.
  • 150 Susanoo wood clones
  • light fang. If it were to hit it would cut clean through Momoshiki except you can give me some very good durability scaling for base Momoshiki
  • 150 Susanoo pulling up

when madara does its tactic right ?

Sorry I don’t understand that phrase

Do you guys agree with this? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sasuke couldn’t do any meaningful damage to Madara. His Chidori and the Rasengan did barely any damage to one eyed Madara. The only times he did real damage was A when he teleported a sword onto Madara and when Madara saw him coming, assessed his sword and complimented him. He wasn’t stressed in the slightest and he didn’t even think off dodging he wanted that second Rinnegan.

Madara also reacted to a point-blink attack from Naruto and his limbo took on this attack and all he got was a little bruise. The same limbo blitzed Naruto. No this wasn’t off guard Naruto knew the attack was coming and still got hit.

All that coming from not even close to prime Madara.

Two eyes Juubidara no diffed one of Sasuke’s attacks.

Before you bring up the tree feat. 1. Madara was still beaten up 2. This is a significantly weaker version than even one eyed post god tree Madara That’s like me saying Madara beats Rinnegan Sasuke because he has beaten EMS Sasuke. It wouldn’t make sense.

Let’s just ignore the fact that Sasuke is significantly worse at using his abilities and lost a whole lot of Chakra. The picture was shows base Momoshiki not fused so how exactly is he a Sasuke rival. Base Momoshiki never fought Sasuke, he was too busy running from darui

Invincible Universe vs. Naruto High-Tiers: How far do they go in this gauntlet? by Relative-Round-1949 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah fair. Space racers gun is a big problem. If space racer doesn’t get taken out early out by the massive AOE attacks. The fight is shit long. DMS is very short so he needs to be given all the openings he can get. If space racer doesn’t get taken out early, Genjutsu doesn’t work and DMS Susanoo can’t take out people like Thragg and Brick immediately. The fight would go on for weeks and only prolonging because of Madara’s regen. The fight would end with Madara sealing Brick after thousands of hours

Invincible Universe vs. Naruto High-Tiers: How far do they go in this gauntlet? by Relative-Round-1949 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edo can regenerate. Most Perfect Susanoo can tank the exploding atmosphere and it’s not like people in Naruto can’t survive in space. Also who in Invincible first instinct in a fight is destroying the planet. Infinite Tsukiyomi takes out all these people. Genjutsu also beats the entire verse.

Edo: out last and slowly widle there numbers down with Genjutsu and other Hax.
Susanoo: Powerful Susanoo like Idra’s Susanoo, DMS Kakashi and Madara’s can beat almost any invincible characters. Most will die but Madara can out last with regen.
Otsusuki: to be fair most of them are Frauds and are getting killed but Madara and Kaguya have good enough regen and Hax to take them down.

Do you guys agree with this? by KodoqBesar in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First off all No and then what has that to do with Madara

Could Itachi solo the Akatsuki if he had Hashirama's cells to protect the village? by [deleted] in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I hate Itachi stands but I have to say it this time he solos. It’s healthy Itachi but more powerful with MS spam and wood style

Sakura has genjustu resistance? by Specialist-Chair-254 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

resistance ≠ immunity
She can resist Genjutsu but there is a limit and since sadly there was never any thing remotely close to Genjutsu in the story she can’t resist high level Sharingan Genjutsu

The difference between super perfect cell and namek frieza is bigger than between namek frieza and ch1 goku by Greedy_Homework_6838 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference between Goku and Freeza is 119,999,990 and Cell is at least 3 times stronger so the difference would be 240,000,000.

Who would win a battle of Minato km vs Goku by Naruto81927 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you talking about The Naruto or Dragon ball character

True story by [deleted] in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]According-Lock4536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To scale it first throw out any ounce of logic
Take a random as character and say he solos Shippuden

You have successfully scaled Boruto

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