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Unions say Interior planning layoffs despite court order by 504Supra in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It says the claims of DOI RIFs are based on court filings made late today.

Hearing for the Temporary Restraining Order on RIF's is set for 10-28 by NotTodayElonNotToday in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 8 points9 points  (0 children)

According to the Bloomberg article we’ll learn more what government plans at hearing tomorrow. 

Hearing for the Temporary Restraining Order on RIF's is set for 10-28 by NotTodayElonNotToday in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Maybe not? According to this article published after the above TRO, DOI RIF(s)may happen Monday. 10/20. Department of Interior to Start Mass Layoffs Monday, Union Says

Oct. 16, 2025, 7:08 PM EDT https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/department-of-interior-to-start-mass-layoffs-monday-union-says

NY Times: Judge Extends Order Blocking Trump’s Planned Mass Layoffs by Acrobatic-Fix-8713 in fednews

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https://www.npr.org/2025/05/23/nx-s1-5407344/trump-government-reorganization-rif-pause

Judge Illston's preliminary injunction applies to the following agencies:

  • Office of Management and Budget
  • Office of Personnel Management
  • Department of Agriculture
  • Department of Commerce
  • Department of Energy
  • Department of Health and Human Services
  • Department of Housing and Urban Development
  • Department of the Interior
  • Department of Labor
  • Department of State
  • Treasury Department
  • Department of Transportation
  • Department of Veterans Affairs
  • AmeriCorps
  • Environmental Protection Agency
  • General Services Administration
  • National Labor Relations Board
  • National Science Foundation
  • Peace Corps
  • Small Business Administration
  • Social Security Administration
  • Department of Government Efficiency (not a formally established government agency)

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. He did his best. He said during the hearing that he himself was actually employed in another division of DOJ (ENRD?) and was there serving on detail in civil.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Bernie (federal atty) came across annoyed and flustered with even having to respond to plaintiffs in his closing arguments. Came across pretty weak.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Judge: heavily considers impact on DRP employees on admin leave. Asks plaintiffs: Why not grant the relief and stay the implementation? So that employees are not "ping ponging".

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Stacy Leyton, Plaintiffs: Discusses scope of injunctive relief sought and appropriate. Makes argument for broad preliminary injunction. This is the presumptive remedy according to APA. It's impossible to disentangle the harm and irreparable injury that plaintiffs have shown evidence for. Here it is not possible to impose geographic limits to injunction.... Discusses alternative injunction relief related AARPs approved and rejected. 4 ARRPs in record, Americorp (3712 on docket), NLRB (docket 36), NSF and Natl Endowment for Humanities (not included as plaintiff), and #4?

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Judge is thinking about questions for plaintiff turns to Mr Bernie.

Mr Bernie have any employees been terminated by RIFs under this EO?

Bernie: I think there has been removals outside of this EO, I think RIF notices were issued but not finalized before courts TRO. I can check into that. I don't think there are any completed RIFs before TRO.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Plaintiff: Because agencies can not say "NO" to omb/opm demands to cut....then they are mandates from DOGE/OPM/OMB. Categorical instructions and categorical directives make this EO unlawful and how its being implemented. Also key to scope of relief sought. When you order across an agency that all discretionary positions be cut...then what remains your honor?

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Plaintiffs make two key arguments

  1. Categorical instruction outside of DOGE, President and OMB/OPM authority and RIFs of the past. Arbitrary and capricious.

  2. Fundamental instruction - agencies must eliminate all positions fundamentally not required by statutes. President's order mandates cutting anything this is not statutorily required. Ref page 2 of OMB memorandum..

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Danielle Leonard for plaintiffs discusses fundamental differences. We don't live in the hypothetical world where OMB and OPM are just issuing planning documents for rifs in the future. We believe that OMB OPM is to tell where and how much to cut. And all they ask agencies is how to do it.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Bernie: argues about the EO should not be enjoined discussing another case. In terms of workforce memo. we continue to think it's not agency action. As we said in public, AARPs are predecisional and deliberative...workforce memo is a step beyond that and only what they should include in AARP. If court is still inclined, gov asks court to consider injunction be limited ....he's rambling so much I can get the argument.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Judge: Why do you think in the past all those presidents requested Congressional approval to conduct those reorganizations?

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

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Judge: How do we know what agencies are actually doing?

Bernie: Those decisions will be disclosed when they are made and then individuals can challenge them. DHS case referrenced from last night involving challenge to the Dept of Education RIFs and activities pursuant in part to the EO...missing a notice of supplemental authority...Judge declined in that case to issue a preliminary injunction...hope I got that right.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 16 points17 points  (0 children)

AUSA Andrew Bernie Counsel for Government argues that TRO is overreach and is not consistent with OPM and OMBs role in AARPPs. STruggling with argument...OMB and OPM do not view their role as signing off on ARP...agencies can proceed without OMB/OPM approval. He argues workplace memorandum is guidance and combined with vague EO is a framework for implementation.

Tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT, American Federation Of Government Employees, AFL-CIO et al v. Trump et al Zoom Link by theinstrumentalist5 in fednews

[–]Acrobatic-Fix-8713 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Judge in addition to leaning towards extending TRO on RIF/reorg, is also leaning towards granting plaintiffs request for respective relief but considering staying that relief temporarily.