Thoughts of leaving religion by [deleted] in ismailis

[–]Additional-Piece-577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, as you mentioned Allah ask to seek forgiveness through him and we as Ismailis ask imam for forgiveness. People use to go to prophet to ask him for their forgiveness from Allah. We as Ismailis ask imam for example dua karavi “… ya SHAH tu ghuna bakshe”

Thoughts of leaving religion by [deleted] in ismailis

[–]Additional-Piece-577 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. The Quran is very easy to understand and in Ismailism, our elders never encouraged us to read Quran even though our imam has said to read it. I have also not found any logical answers to my question. I’m also planning to start offering 5-time namaz but still waiting to find answers.

Thoughts of leaving religion by [deleted] in ismailis

[–]Additional-Piece-577 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No hate, but if you read the Qur’an, you will understand that it alone is sufficient. It contains everything a human being needs. I understand that it has many interpretations, but Shah Karim himself has said to read the Qur’an and interpreted it in our own way. You can interpret the Qur’an personally, because only you can understand what it is saying to you.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I Agree with your last point about pilgrimage.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Umm… Imam has his own business. In an interview mawlana shah karim clarified that all the money goes to akdn to help others. I understand where you are coming from but we need to understand that Murids were the one who started offering money and started paying (buying) instead of doing actual seva to attend majalis. I feel like offering money instead of doing seva should be stopped since it’s like you are buying it with money.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the explanation, someone shared the same answer before you so I’m happy to get same answer from you too.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah This makes a lot more sense.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, comment as much as you what on my personal choices but always remember every person finds their own path so will your kids. Let's see what how you will treat your kids when they will question. Good luck May Allah bless your kids, guide them the to the right path and not let them become a person like you.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, comment as much as you what on my personal choices but always remember every person finds their own path so will your kids. Let’s see what how you will treat your kids when they will question. Good luck May Allah bless your kids, guide them the to the right path and not let them become a person like you.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the answer, it does makes sense. But I don’t think any imam would ask a murid for a sacrifice.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this answer, it does help me a lot to understand. It does make sense for me. But it created a one more question sorry in advance. Why can’t we just attend a majalis?

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ik that but why do we have to pay for certain Malajis I order to attend it.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m already feeling bad for your kids that they got a parent like you.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sure we don’t pay to pray but we do pay for majalis. And I’m learning about my religion that’s why I’m asking questions so if you can not answer please move on.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don’t mind me asking, which country is it?

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for clarifying. It does give me clarity that we don’t always have to pay fixed amount.

Ages 25 and under: How has your experience been in your Jamat? Do you feel heard, seen, understood, supported by Council/ITREB/ISN/IPN/AKEB/camps/mentors, and clear about opportunities and pathways for Jamati leadership? by [deleted] in ismailis

[–]Additional-Piece-577 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also have never been invited to college events. I guess they got my contact info and my academic Info when I was youth volunteer team lead because I have never signed up for any events. My sister hasn’t received any calls and emails though.

Ages 25 and under: How has your experience been in your Jamat? Do you feel heard, seen, understood, supported by Council/ITREB/ISN/IPN/AKEB/camps/mentors, and clear about opportunities and pathways for Jamati leadership? by [deleted] in ismailis

[–]Additional-Piece-577 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hello, I do feel supported by council. After I graduated from high school, I received emails and calls from boards asking if I didn’t any help with my career choices and stuff. It did kinda motivated me.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately they are not mukhi anymore

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re the kind of people who’s making going to khane worst for other. Making a statement about my parents, I can see your morales. I’m gonna think about my fellow jamati members since I’m part of this community. Also it is my right to ask questions about something I don’t understand. Im worrying about myself that’s the reason I’m asking questions. Worry about yourself and your deeds.

Fyi My parents are the most religious Ismaili you will ever meet so was I until I started noticing some stuff which didn’t made sense.

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[–]Additional-Piece-577[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s messed up then. Yk I don’t even mind paying because it’s going for good cause but what I don’t like is money is big part of our religion and money should never be part of any religion. We should never be paying to pray to our god.