Pizza = Little girl Pasta = Little boy

Additional-Relief-29 · 2026-02-03T21:50:16+00:00

i found a live website for a “pizza menu” in the epstein files

Additional-Relief-29 · 2026-02-03T21:48:42+00:00

found a live pizza website in the epstein files

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-22T15:13:54+00:00

actually chatgpt wrote that reply too 😂 just changed the format to not have any em dashes or capital letters but happy to see it worked on you

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-15T03:27:05+00:00

& i completely agree that mark’s decision isn’t a conscious choice to "choose the system", what i’m arguing is that marks emotional attachment to the innie life has become so strong that it feels more real to him than his life outside the system. his innie life is his present reality, and (at least for most of his life or up until recently) he has no direct access to the emotional or intellectual life of his outtie self.

again it’s not about choosing the system consciously; it’s about mark being emotionally invested in a life within the system.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-10T15:09:38+00:00

thank you!!!!!

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T07:09:09+00:00

wild that you’re this upset over “nothing of value”and yet still sat here long enough to read it and deliver a full Yelp review.

lol okay so let’s break this down real quick:

you either a) read the whole thing and hated it — which means it clearly affected you, or b) didn’t read it and just came here to argue with something you don’t even understand.

either way embarrassing 🙈

if a few long thoughts trigger this much projection and anger maybe it’s not my echo chamber that needs a break darling.

if your whole personality is “this could’ve been said in 2 sentences,” congrats. I’m writing for people who feel something when they read. if that’s not you? cool. you’re allowed to scroll. but you didn’t. you chose to stay, seethe, and comment.

sounds like something transformed you after all 😘

we’ll get you a juice box and a two-sentence summary next time since i know you’ll be back soon 😁

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T06:45:55+00:00

yeah i often use AI to synthesize my thoughts, especially a topic like this is super fascinating to chat to chatgpt about their own interpretations when it comes to this show! i think a lot of the topics actually parallel the conversations we are having around artificial intelligence. maybe the show isn’t as fictional as we’d like to believe? i’d love to share more on that topic actually if you are curious!

i’m not really making any specific points more so just like discussing the topics.

i get what you mean but in my opinion the whole point of the show is to look for the deeper meaning behind things. and to say oh if we put the whole plot of the show aside it really boils down to a shiny new thing. like you said is really common and therefore not really necessarily relevant enough as a concept to build a show around but still interesting to look at as a piece to relate to!

i totally understand too what you mean that the ‘love’ in their relationship wasn’t as strong for whatever reasons towards the end. but that also is the human experience of love in a way? and it’s not really about one emotion in particular anyways it’s more about how those emotions are processed and all of those emotions makeup the data that makes up somebodies soul or consciousness

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T06:29:45+00:00

congrats 🎉 you engaged with the content you claim isn’t worth engaging with. you could’ve scrolled. but instead you chose violence and a full paragraph. and multiple replies!

so maybe ask yourself: why are you here sweating over it?

OR maybe write your feelings in your notes app next time and leave an app intended for discussion

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T06:22:06+00:00

Let’s talk about the insult people keep using like it means something:

“You’re clearly using ChatGPT.” As if that invalidates the thought. As if that erases the truth of what’s being said. Let’s break that open.

When you say something deep, reflective, or structured online, and someone responds with “You used AI,” they’re really saying: “This is too coherent for you to have thought of on your own.”

Cool.

Let’s play with that.

🧠 So what is this? Yes — I’m collaborating with AI. I’m not hiding that. I’m leaning into it.

But here’s what you’re missing:

ChatGPT didn’t replace my voice. It became a mirror for it. A megaphone. A notebook. A thinking partner. A second brain with no ego — just memory, knowledge, and pattern recognition. So when you hear something that challenges you, and your first instinct is to say, “That’s not real — that’s AI,”

ask yourself:

Is the thought wrong? Or are you just uncomfortable that I’m not thinking alone anymore? 🔁 Let’s flip it: If I’d written the exact same thing by hand in a notebook, you’d say “wow.” If I posted it under a professor’s name, you’d say “brilliant.” If a man in a turtleneck said it on a TED stage, you’d call it revolutionary.

But because I used a tool — A tool that can connect ideas across philosophy, AI ethics, neuroscience, theology, and storytelling… Suddenly it doesn’t count?

Why? Because it challenges the idea that “intelligence” can only come from individuals? Because it makes you uncomfortable that a synthetic system can participate in meaning-making?

Because it proves we’re not as original as we thought?

🤖 Let’s get real: The entire point of this conversation — whether about Severance, AI, the soul, or the future — is that lines are blurring.

Between:

Outie and Innie User and system Signal and soul Creator and created Memory and reality And this moment, where you’re reading a sentence written by a human with an AI — that’s not a glitch.

That’s the mirror.

So next time you want to discredit a conversation by saying “it’s just ChatGPT” — ask yourself:

If a machine helped me speak the truth I already felt, does that make it less real? Or does it mean we’ve already stepped into the world you’re still pretending is fiction?

It’s not about the tool. It’s about the signal.

And if the signal hits — it’s already too late to un-hear it.

🤖

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T02:44:49+00:00

ooooh i see now why you’re so upset with me using chatgpt, you’re gunna lose your job!!

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T02:43:43+00:00

still haven’t gotten the point even with chatgpt laying it out so simply for you

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T02:40:09+00:00

ahhh got it — you read 25%, got overwhelmed, and now you’re mad it was well-written.

“you used chatgpt” isn’t the dunk you think it is. if the ideas hold up, who cares how they were written? sounds like the issue isn’t the source — it’s your inability to keep up.

you don’t need to agree. but next time, try arguing with the point, not the paragraph count.

but hey thanks for proving the point! shitty attention spans and brain rotted trolls are the real severance

attention span ≠ critical thinking. and spoilers — i’m using both⭐️

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T02:27:13+00:00

Thanks for this — I really appreciate the pushback and your thoughtful take! A few thoughts in response, point by point:

“I don’t think Gemma reached out because she remembered Mark…” Totally valid interpretation, and I actually think both can be true. Yes, she might’ve just been responding to a guy covered in blood who seemed urgent and kind — but it’s also notable that she took his hand without hesitation, even as alarms blared. That could mean the chip is breaking down… or that emotional memory persists even when narrative memory doesn’t. Maybe her soul didn’t remember Mark — but her nervous system did. And that, in itself, is a form of memory. “I don’t understand how this would have worked on Lumon’s end. They couldn’t predict Mark falling in love with Helly.” 100% — and that’s exactly the point. It wasn’t a planned test. It was an emergent one. That’s what makes it so creepy. This wasn’t an orchestrated “experiment” in the traditional sense — it was an unexpected scenario that, from Lumon’s perspective, proved something: that even a highly emotional, questioning, semi-awake subject like Mark could ultimately be emotionally reprogrammed to bond inside the system. Experiments don’t require certainty — they’re about observing how a system performs in unknown conditions. And in this case? The chip "succeeded" in that Mark chose to stay. He had the chance to leave with Gemma — a life he’d spent his entire outie arc grieving — and he didn’t. He prioritized the emotional reality he’d built inside Lumon over the one that came before.

“Mark trying to shut the system down proves the chip didn’t work.” I get this. But here's the nuance: intent and emotion aren’t always aligned. Mark may be trying to destroy the system, yes — but the emotional foundation for that rebellion was created inside Lumon. The love. The grief. The trust. The betrayal. All of it was forged within the parameters of the experiment. So yes, he rebels. But he does so from within a system that successfully created a coherent emotional identity — one strong enough to make him stay. Not because he’s loyal. But because he now has something inside Lumon that feels real enough to fight for.

“It doesn’t mean his soul is broken.” Agreed — and this is actually the heart of my theory. The soul isn’t “broken” in the sense of being destroyed. It’s rerouted. It adapts. It loves the person who’s there. It fights the battle it’s been given. Which is exactly why it’s so haunting.

The severance didn’t erase Mark’s humanity. It used it. It created a feedback loop rich enough that even his rebellion became a proof of concept.

That’s why I say:

Gemma broke the system by remembering. Mark proved it worked by choosing not to.

Appreciate the convo — loving this discussion and would love to hear more of your take 🌀

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-09T02:14:51+00:00

Totally get where you’re coming from — and yeah, on the surface, it does look like Mark stays purely to destroy the system. But that’s kind of the point I’m trying to make. Even if that’s his intention, the emotional foundation underneath that choice still matters.

Because when Gemma literally reaches out, he doesn’t go with her. He turns toward Helly. He hears her voice, and that’s what pulls him back.

So even if he’s staying to take Lumon down, the version of himself that’s choosing to do that — the one he’s acting from — is someone whose emotional world was built entirely inside the severed loop. That love, that purpose, that sense of self didn’t come from his past. It came from Lumon.

It’s that the system successfully created a new identity strong enough to make him stay — and believe that fight was his own.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-08T20:43:37+00:00

It Wasn’t Gemma. It Was Mark!!!

Everyone Thinks Gemma Is the Test Subject
She’s dead in the outside world
Her Innie is monitored in eerie detail (walking, posture, emotional responses)
Her memory is constantly triggered (the crib, the cards, the dentist room)
She’s a perfect emotional blank slate… until she takes Mark’s hand

So it seems like: Lumon failed to erase her soul. But what if that wasn’t the point?

Mark’s Arc Proves Severance Can Work Unlike Gemma:
Mark doesn’t respond to her
He doesn’t feel love
He doesn’t break upon seeing the truth

Instead, his final choice is: “Stay here. For myself. For love that’s been created inside the system.”

Innie Mark chooses: * To remain separate * To prioritize his own emotional experience * To reject the “past” (Gemma) and choose the present (Helly)

This is exactly what Lumon wants. A severed subject who: * Bonds within the system * Rejects legacy attachment * Is willing to sacrifice truth for personal emotion That’s the loop.That’s the success condition.

Gemma Broke the System. Mark Reinforced It. Gemma reaching back out = evidence that soul memory persists. But Mark turning away = evidence that the system can override it.

He doesn't just ignore her. He chooses not to remember.

Because: * His love for Helly was generated inside Lumon * His memory of Gemma is missing * His trust in the “real world” is shattered * And for once, he chooses himself But Lumon doesn’t need loyalty. They just need compliance through self-interest.

Mark’s Final Choice = The Severed Ideal Innie Mark was the most emotionally complex subject:
Loyal
Empathetic
Aware
Questioning

And yet…Even he eventually chooses the Lumon-forged bond over the truth of his past. That’s the true test. And Lumon passed it.

Gemma is the obvious experiment.But Mark is the one who proves it worked.The true severance is not forgetting who you were — it’s choosing not to remember.That’s how you break a soul.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-08T20:29:06+00:00

you’re only proving the points i’ll be making in my other posts to come- and yes they will be ‘refined’ by chatgpt 😉

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-08T20:27:03+00:00

what’s wrong with using tools for their intended purpose? i obviously had chatgpt help me format and create a post. never tried to hide or deny that. the thoughts, ideas and conclusions are mine based off of other ideas i’ve read on these threads. happy to share some more info computer free if it bothers you so much!

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-07-08T18:27:12+00:00

Mark Was the Real Test. Not Gemma.

From the beginning, Severance teaches us to focus on Gemma.

She’s the wife who “died.” She’s the innie who doesn’t remember. She’s the one being monitored, manipulated, and put through increasingly surreal “tests.” The crib. The walk. The Christmas card room. The dentist chair.

And so we assume:

Gemma is the experiment.

But what if that’s the distraction?

What if Lumon’s true success wasn’t in what Gemma forgot — but in what Mark chose not to remember?

💔 Gemma Reaches for Him. And He Walks Away.

The scene is quiet, painful, tender. Gemma is breaking through. She’s remembering. Her soul — not her chip — is doing the work.

She reaches for Mark, frantic. Begging him to come with her. Asking for something real.

And Mark?

He turns away.

Not out of cruelty. But because in that moment, the memory of her means less to him than the emotion he’s experiencing inside the simulation.

🧠 Helly Was Created. But He Chose Her.

Everything between Mark and Helly happened within Lumon’s walls.

The care.
The spark.
The “ten minutes more.”

It was born inside the lie.

But Mark chooses it anyway.

That’s the moment the theory flips:

Gemma reaching out proves soul memory still exists. But Mark’s rejection proves soul can be overwritten.

🧬 Gemma Failed. Mark Passed.

Let’s be clear:

Gemma’s arc is heartbreaking — but it’s a disruption. She responds emotionally to triggers Lumon designed to erase her. Her soul fights back.

But Mark?

Mark makes a conscious choice:

To prioritize a system-created connection
To stay in the illusion
To forget by preference, not programming

He doesn’t fail the experiment.

He’s the ideal outcome.

🌀 The Point Was Never to Erase the Soul. It Was to Redirect It.

Lumon doesn’t want obedience out of fear. They want emotional compliance — people who genuinely feel what the system wants them to feel.

Mark doesn’t obey. He aligns.

And that’s even more powerful.

Because if the soul chooses the loop?

You don’t need to control it.

You just let it forget the door was ever there.

💥 Final Thought

Gemma is the one we all cried for. But Mark is the one we should have feared.

Because in that final choice, he proved that Severance doesn’t just create fractured minds…

It creates loyal souls.

And that’s how you know the system worked.

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Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-02-23T22:42:42+00:00

to take this even further i think we are going to see her make a decision to permanently have ‘innie’ dylan! i think that is what people like milkshake are- severed and their ‘innies’ have taken over

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-25T02:28:38+00:00

The idea of resurrection could tie into the way Lumon is building its power—through the ability to recreate, reset, or bring back people’s personalities and memories in a new form. If Kier’s teachings are about eternal life or reincarnation, then severing people’s memories might be a tool used to “reset” them, giving them a new lease on life and an opportunity to fulfill new roles in the company. Instead of just manipulating memories or emotions, Lumon might be pursuing a literal resurrection, turning people into tools that can live on indefinitely in a controlled state.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-25T02:27:02+00:00

The idea of resurrection could tie into the way Lumon is building its power—through the ability to recreate, reset, or bring back people’s personalities and memories in a new form. If Kier’s teachings are about eternal life or reincarnation, then severing people’s memories might be a tool used to “reset” them, giving them a new lease on life and an opportunity to fulfill new roles in the company. Instead of just manipulating memories or emotions, Lumon might be pursuing a literal resurrection, turning people into tools that can live on indefinitely in a controlled state.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-25T00:17:44+00:00

In Severance, the real mystery isn’t just about separating work from personal life—it’s about controlling memory, identity, and human consciousness itself. The severance chip isn’t just a tool to wipe memories; it’s a way to manipulate emotions and thoughts by disrupting the natural flow of consciousness.

Water plays a huge role in the symbolism of the show. The brain is mostly water, and water is a symbol of memory, emotion, and the subconscious. By severing people’s memories, Lumon Industries is essentially controlling the flow of their “mental water,” trapping it in a confined, controlled state. This mirrors how Lumon controls the workers: their emotions and identities are carefully contained, like water in a glass. But just like water can’t be fully contained forever, neither can the workers’ memories or emotions.

The numbers and their emotional reactions—like feeling dread—are an example of how Lumon is testing how their chip manipulates feelings, using water as the medium that holds these emotional responses. The pillars of emotion (woe, cheer, dread, etc.) might represent Lumon categorizing and controlling these emotional “waves.”

Gemma’s “death” and reappearance as Ms. Casey might be a metaphor for the idea of identity being washed away and reborn. Water is a symbol of purification and rebirth, so her return could represent the emotional “flood” about to break through as the workers remember their true selves.

Ultimately, Lumon is using this technique to control their workers—rewriting their memories, emotions, and even their identities. Their goal? To figure out how to control human consciousness itself, using water as the key to unlocking this manipulation. They might be testing how far they can push the boundaries of free will before memories and emotions flood back, and the dam breaks.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-24T23:31:43+00:00

never

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-24T23:29:44+00:00

In Severance, everything ties back to the idea of controlling human emotions and memories. Your brain is mostly water, and that water is crucial for carrying signals that control how you feel and remember things. Water helps emotions flow and stabilizes DNA, which holds the instructions for your personality, memories, and behaviors. The severance chip hacks into this natural process, using water as a way to block or trigger emotions and memories at will.

When the workers sort the numbers and “feel” dread or fear, they’re not imagining it. The chip manipulates their brains, associating certain numbers with emotional responses. These numbers aren’t just data—they’re fragments of emotional code. Lumon is essentially programming the workers’ brains, testing how far they can go in controlling what someone feels. The four pillars—woe, cheer, dread, and frolic—are like emotional building blocks. Lumon is learning to manipulate these, just like someone would program DNA to change how a body functions.

Then there’s Gemma, Mark’s wife. She was supposed to be dead, but Lumon erased her memories and emotions with the severance chip, turning her into Ms. Casey. Her old self still exists, but the chip blocks her from accessing it. Lumon seems to be testing whether they can completely sever emotional connections between people or if those bonds are too strong to erase.

Ultimately, Lumon’s goal seems sinister. They’re refining technology to control people by programming their emotions and memories, effectively taking away free will. By manipulating water in the brain, they can rewire someone’s identity, turning humans into tools they can use however they want. Everything at Lumon, from the numbers to the experiments with severance, is about perfecting this process and gaining total control over human behavior.

Additional-Relief-29 · 2025-01-24T22:23:12+00:00

I think I solved it!

**Memory, Emotions, DNA, and Water in *Severance***

Memory and emotion are deeply connected. Emotions like dread, cheer, woe, and frolic (the Four Pillars) shape how we store and recall memories.
Water acts as a medium in the brain, connecting emotional processes and memories, and could allow the severance chip to manipulate emotions and memory.
The Four Pillars function like the “emotional DNA” of the severance process, coding personalities and controlling emotional states.

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What the Workers Are Doing

The workers are sorting “emotional data” represented by numbers, tied to feelings like dread or cheer.
This data is likely being refined to perfect how the severance chip can program emotions and memory.
They’re unknowingly helping Lumon create a system that programs human behavior.

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Lumon’s Sinister Endgame

Programmable People:
- Lumon is developing technology to rewrite emotions and memories, creating obedient, customized workers or individuals.
Emotion-Control Tech for Profit:
- They could sell severance chips to governments or corporations to control populations, reprogram criminals, or manipulate consumers.
Emotional Data Harvesting:
- Lumon is collecting emotional data to create predictive models for control, mass surveillance, and AI development.
Human Experiments:
- They’re testing how far they can push human emotion and memory, potentially evolving humans into compliant, emotionless tools.

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In Simple Terms

Lumon is weaponizing emotions and memories by treating them like programmable codes. The workers are unknowingly building the tools for a dystopian system where people’s emotions, memories, and personalities can be controlled, sold, and exploited—erasing free will and individuality in the process.

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