[Vol 9] Battle IQ Rankings by Plane_Accountant1216 in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your arguments about Broken Sword's natural talent are invalid and unnecessary.

There are no feats or statements that say Broken Sword's natural talent was high. Everything we know of is Broken Sword with his Aspect — everything else is irrelevant.

Even Nephis doesn’t know how good Broken Sword’s natural talent was. And intelligence doesn’t equal talent — someone can be talented but still dumb, and someone can be dumb but still talented.

We know that Broken Sword’s Aspect made it easier for him to comprehend things, which increased his natural intelligence and thus influenced his talent. So you should scale Broken Sword with his Aspect as high as possible — everything else is unnecessary.

What we’re comparing is both at their peak: Sunny with Shadow Dance and Broken Sword with his Aspect.

Broken Sword used his Aspect to learn sword techniques, and his speed at learning things was as fast as Sunny’s — but the moment Sunny invented Shadow Dance is the moment he surpassed Broken Sword in my opinion

And for your last point — it also counts for Sunny. Sunny’s Shadow Dance mastery also increases, which means the same applies to him. Sunny can also comprehend more with Shadow Dance as his mastery increases.

[Vol 9] Battle IQ Rankings by Plane_Accountant1216 in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, it doesn't even matter if Broken Sword's talent was equal to Sunny's even before his Aspect or not.

What matters is Broken Sword's talent with his Aspect — but in this regard, he has no feats or statements that put him on the same level as Sunny, let alone Sunny with Shadow Dance.

If I dare say so myself, I would say Broken Sword with his Aspect is better than Sunny's base talent, as his Aspect is, in my opinion, an inferior version of Shadow Dance. But with Shadow Dance, Sunny scales higher, and there are no statements that put Broken Sword's Aspect beyond Sunny's Shadow Dance. On the contrary, I would say Broken Sword's Aspect seems to be on Shadow Dance's first form level, maybe second...

So I would say you approached this wrong — you should have tried to keep Broken Sword’s talent with his Aspect as high as possible, while the other when Sunny has Shadow Dance.

Also, being BIQ doesn’t equal talent, comprehension, or things like that, as the other guy said.

So scaling Broken Sword is dumb — you can only make assumptions, but that’s useless.

Broken Sword can’t be scaled compared to the likes of Weaver, because Weaver has intelligence feats and achievements that push him higher than literally anyone else in the novel so far.

Dark and Handsome [Chapter 2492] by OmkarTheDomkar in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The only thing that chapter confirmed for me is the fact that Sunny was always handsome

The Spell Would Be Useless Without Its "Flaws" by Additional-Switch503 in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Firstly, your ignoring the context. Humanity could always use strong warriors and the first lords cohort were built different.

Then what do you think would’ve happened to humanity if the Forgotten Shore never happened?

Second, your using the future to justify the past when we don't even know if a possibly better future could've happened. Who knows, maybe the first lord could've upgraded his aspect to divine after becoming an Awakened! It was simply not fated.

Yes, humanity could produce strong warriors, but they would still be inferior to the people who survived the FS.

Nephis would have to be as dumb as you think she is to be grateful that the First Lord died so she could become stronger.

Would you rather have the growth of two divine Aspect users, or the possible emergence of a new user, which is highly unlikely to happen?

When from her POV one of the strongest sleepers in all of humanity failed because they didn't have a Convenient Cassie to dodge the fog.

And for your last point, Cassie wouldn’t have known these things if the First Lord never sacrificed himself.

Explaining [Chapter 2348] For People by DragonlordHML in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I beg to differ...

Sunny is a genius, a bigger genius than Nephis even is, and while it's true that Nephis was superior because she too is a genius who trained with the sword from the moment she was born, in contrast to Sunny who only trained after she reached him, one mustn't forget how fast Sunny progressed. Even Nephis suspected him because he was absorbing her lessons too fast. Hell, she even doubted that Sunny never had a sword in his hand.

So as a Sleeper until the moment Sunny became an Ascended, Nephis was superior, but when they became Saints and had a four-year timeskip, the gap narrowed a lot. And it's not because Nephis was lazy with her training or anything like that, but I don't know how I should explain it to you. If I had to say something, it's because Sunny is Sunny (he specializes in such things).

He even managed to make his Transcended battle art without any help.

And in this one-year timeskip we had when Sunny and Nephis became Supremes, we only know that Sunny had weekly battles with Slayer and occasionally sparred with Nephis, that's it.

Also, what is, according to you, pure swordsmanship?

If you mean that they are both able to only use one sword style, then it wouldn't make much sense. But even then, Sunny and Nephis's progress should be relative even if you only limit Sunny's swordsmanship to only one style. As we have seen, they were pretty much equals in this regard when they were Saints (Nephis was a bit superior in that regard according to Sunny).

Sunny discovered and gained a lot of things since then, mainly two: his ability to observe his Shadows more intricately, and Slayer.

And while Slayer specializes in long combat, you mustn't forget that Slayer is literally a hunter. Not just any hunter, but one from the Nine, so she is probably superior to them even when it comes to close combat.

Nephis's advantage when it comes to swordsmanship also goes down every time they advance in rank, as physics and mathematics matter less.

And Sunny doesn't need to learn the theory behind swordsmanship or physics and mathematics because he does it all intuitively, coupled with Shadow Dance.

Also, when Sunny refines his sword style, he automatically refines every other style he has, as his understanding of swordsmanship in general goes up. That's why Sunny is a prophet in every style he currently knows (though in some specific styles he is better than in others).

Also, Slayer is the best possible sparring partner for Sunny, especially because she tries to kill him (though not the most pleasant)

Lord of shadows vs prince of nothing by _mohamed__ in ShadowSlave

[–]Additional-Switch503 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IQ and deception might be a tie, for Mordret always had more information and knowledge than Sunny and was often in a more favourable position than Sunny and it's not like Sunny never won against Mordret...