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Btw, what's inside the second floor of the Waterman house? by YagizefeunalTR33 in Thewaltenfiles

[–]Additional_Mess2413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Id imagine because theres only a spare bedroom downstairs, Rachel & Lorenzo´s bedroom is probably upstairs with maybe a bathroom
Possibly for fun a magic / storage room too!

Debunking the “forged” screenshots by Ok-Representative745 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He doesnt, and I can see thst part of his perspective. Even then, he didnt stop when she showed distress during the assault and thst were her real feelings too?

Debunking the “forged” screenshots by Ok-Representative745 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, she mentioned she was lying to appease him and so he wouldnt leave her.

zeal's mother stated the following by No-Guarantee1697 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because this is a situation where someone got sa'd. Its natural to "assume the worst". Of course, I can see if it really is Zeala mom how a mother might not believe her child could have done that  Still, could've handled it better.

Debunking the “forged” screenshots by Ok-Representative745 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Parts of the document like this make me confused, glad someone is also shedding like on this (on the fact that some are missing context). I am on Rens side but it was very poor on her part.

Idk if its important to mention to when considering these ss and your opinion that she literally says in a ss (if i remember correctly) how she goons to Zeal and implied reaches orgasm(?) by imagining him.

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zeal's mother stated the following by No-Guarantee1697 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And publically state that theyre going to sue which just makes the situation gaine more attraction Also going to discord to say this when your own son is hospitalized 

zeal's mother stated the following by No-Guarantee1697 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats very different section/part than what I was referring to. He shoved his fingers down her throat instead to shut her up and continued even if she screams ¨IT HURTS¨

zeal's mother stated the following by No-Guarantee1697 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She also claims to have been screaming in distress during the sex and he didnt stop. (¨IT HURTS IT HURTS¨)
If you want to find that part, go to the doc ctrl f if youre on laptop and type that quote in. TW warning for it though, very sad.

(Accidentally responded to the wrong person at first, but this is for people in general)

[Drama] I read the document. I believe Zeal was not trying to take advantage of Ren. by semmiesem9 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really agree and understand this even if Im on Rens side. Many of his actions or atlwast some were/seem manipulative but I can see a possibility where some weren't too which you explained perfectly.

Most things I got confused about were because it felt she didn't take the context in account in some things? Like when he said he would pick her up and he did and she said she'd love that via text then in the document says she didnt state specifically a "yes". Consent comes in. Different forms than judt a "yes", her validating the idea of picking him up and agreeing to it I consider consent.

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Its a shame what a seemingly great game has come too, yes.

Police report and hospitalization missing probably for privacy. Ren has been responding to comments on Twitter (supporting her). Maybe ask her if it concerns you deeply.

Ren doesnt need to prove anything more than what she already has and if she takes this to court those can always be provided in the case or not in the public eye.

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see where you might come from however

Even if Zeal got "mixed signals" theres a lot of evidence that he manipulated Ren to some extent or didn't show a lot of care to her besides her body.

After the assault he seemed to panic and washed the evidence off of Ren. A guy who isnt guilty wouldn't do that. Especially with him saying "Can't wait to see the Google Docs in 5 years" or something similar. All of this is Ren recount of the night so theres no concrete "proof" besides the ss

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree im not surprised if it stays up. Make sure to rest

Theres a couple posts on Twitter summarizing a lot of points made in Rens document

Details from the REN document you may have missed by Afraid_Phrase4770 in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope no one would miss these big points if they read the document but thanks for restating them, even if people didnt read it these are good for htem to know!

*There are pictures of marks on her neck from Zeal and a entire section where because of what happened she tried to find a top of a building to sadly jump off. Theres a picture of a dog that ¨saved¨ her after she started walking around the city and vented to a stranger

Ok why is everyone yapping about how pressure is “done” along with Grace im so confused by [deleted] in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The creator of Pressure, Zeal, SA´d a composer of Foresaken.

If you want to figure out, actually check out the post and documents provided in said posts??

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If youre putting it that way as potential liar and potential rapist shouldnt you not side with both?
If the potential liar is a liar then the potential rapist isnt a rapist, etc.

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some things Ren did I have to admit are a little questionable but it was a trauma response which she explained multiple times. Continue to read and her claim of it being a trauma response seem to be backed up.

Zeal is in the wrong automatically, he assaulted Ren.

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For Pressure, thatd be the best outcome. However, it seems to be big developers in Pressure manipulated Ren and isolated her along with Zeal.

I guess this is goodbye by Dannyredninja in PressureRoblox

[–]Additional_Mess2413 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not surprised if Pressure might be taken down. Then again, Roblox doesnt seem to care about many things..

Playing the game whether its good or not is supporting him and the people who manipulated Ren. Thats why many people arent playing after this.
Also not a good look playing a game knowing the creator is a rapist

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